Alisae V Pine: Trees Apparently Make Good Treestumps

[Alisae]

Actually Gamma

did you ever say why you wanted Ali to answer about who e targeted

He thought the game was bastard lulw

[Dannflor]

oh

[Dannflor]

i mean fair tbh

[Wooper]

gamma's entire mindset approaching this phase has been anti-scum indicative
he's just not doing anything. i think he needs to fix that because i can only run with a mindset tell so far

[Firebringer]

:snore:

[Wooper]

firebabby do you see why i come out of this exchange thinking {me, dann, gamma} is town and you're scum? :c

[Firebringer]

firebabby do you see why i come out of this exchange thinking {me, dann, gamma} is town and you're scum? :c

anything i can do to help u along with that?

[Dannflor]

also the problem with scum reading gamma for lurking is that that's not a scum tell for him

I know you'll say it's a PoE read fire, but if the PoE reads aren't terribly strong that can indicate you need to reevaluate one or more of your town reads

[Wooper]

let me inside
i don't think we agree about gamma; i don't think that's important qqquuuiiittteee yet

your read on krazzy is stupid. i want to lynch him. why's he town?

[Wooper]

i'm neutral about his scumreads being POE he can fix that

[Dannflor]

I'm taking issue with all the tone reads just because of how easy it is to fake tone for bursts of posts

If you can point me to a consistently towny tone for all 500 pages I'll be both impressed and town read that but otherwise

Especially with Krazy: Mastina comes at him with "you would have replaced out if you were scum"

and it's not hard to come off as towny in response to that

[Dannflor]

"you would have replaced out if you were scum"

town*

[Wooper]

krazzy often sounds incredulous as scum anyway
he regularly sounds salty as scum when he's actually engaging

i'm not sure i was really convinced by mastina's case but his pivot back to mechtalk at the start of today had me like >:c

[Wooper]

"you would have replaced out if you were scum"

town*

sCuMsLiP

[Dunnstral]

I townread Krazy based on his tone, he looks like exasperated town - I don't think he is faking that

[Dannflor]

everyone is exasperated at this stage of the game

everyone is expressing some level of saltiness

except for Dunnstral

I need more than that to town read someone

[Alisae]

I townread Krazy based on his tone, he looks like exasperated town - I don't think he is faking that

my biggest worry atm is a lot of what mastina was previously saying about that slot is starting to turn out right right now.
Like, most of his contributions today are on the mechanic side of things, I don't see him trying to sort people, and like, I swear, 100% of the time, town!Krazy pushes reads here and atleast tries to win

[Wooper]

I townread Krazy based on his tone, he looks like exasperated town - I don't think he is faking that

i've never been more exasperated in mafia than i was when i was trying to get through to ali about scum!katsuki the other day. i think krazy was extremely annoyed, but i'm not sure i really read explicit towniness into his exasperation.

he feels exhausted by the game--agree with dann, this game has been extremely exhausting.
his posting around mastina's case feels extremely frustrated but i think a lot of her case on him was frustrating.

i agree w/ exasperation but i'm not sure i see why it's town indicative for him here. the most net-positive parts of the exasperation aren't really all that alignment indicative.

via content he's also like, incredibly lacking which is a big krazzy scumtell

[Wooper]

I townread Krazy based on his tone, he looks like exasperated town - I don't think he is faking that

my biggest worry atm is a lot of what mastina was previously saying about that slot is starting to turn out right right now.
Like, most of his contributions today are on the mechanic side of things, I don't see him trying to sort people, and like, I swear, 100% of the time, town!Krazy pushes reads here and atleast tries to win

^ this
my mind keeps drifting back to that one newbie

it's anecdotal since this was a pretty unique situation

but this krazy doesn't feel like town!krazy in the suffering gamestate you know? scum!krazy is happy for a stagnant gamestate and is more than comfortable cruisin til endgame. it feels a lot more like scum!krazy m.o.

[Dannflor]

I also feel Krazy suddenly stopped tunneling me when I started tentatively feeling better about his slot after the mastina shit

[Dannflor]

or like his tunnel on me has no fire behind it anymore

[Firebringer]

i am about to rage at u guys for ignoring my reasoning on gamma

[Alisae]

i am about to rage at u guys for ignoring my reasoning on gamma

Fire
hear me out
I'm not sure scum fakes "bastard game lulw" because they usually know whats going on enough.
I've never seen that.
Have you?

[Firebringer]

let me inside
i don't think we agree about gamma; i don't think that's important qqquuuiiittteee yet

your read on krazzy is stupid. i want to lynch him. why's he town?

u got me wrong, i want to help u scumread me more.

why would scum me help u, l2p

[Dannflor]

gamma questions aren't helpful for alignment sorting.
gamma not pushing his questions and badgering for answers or follow up on them tells me they are there to fill space. Which is what he would do as scum.

Like literally the only way i have known scum!gamma and town!gamma apart.

no offense to gamma

I don't think his questions are always especially useful as town either

I'm not sure how Gamma just staying afloat by filling space really pushes the game towards a scum victory here—we already went down this road with Chennisden, and this is LyLo now