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Garmr · Post Post #5375 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:47 pm

Starting to wonder if Rick is actually scum. Titus being the scum roleblocker and all and untouched by rick all game when his the outed doctor.

Hectic · Post Post #5376 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:48 pm

In post 5373, Hectic wrote:
In post 5301, bob3141 wrote:VOTE: Hectic
Tbh, it's only a matter of time until scum get their shit together and coordinate a quickhammer onto me, assuming Bob is town.
You really need to get online and unvote this, Bob. Even if you think I'm scum, it makes no sense to risk this if we're lynching Texcat today.

^PageTopping this so Bob sees it.

Garmr · Post Post #5377 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:54 pm

In post 5374, Hectic wrote:
In post 5371, Garmr wrote:
In post 5369, Hectic wrote:Wait, I thought Titus claimed VT?
She claimed to of roleblocked me yesterday.

In post 5372, Garmr wrote:
In post 5056, Titus wrote:I am a one shot roleblocker. I held it until last night because I figured it was negative utility. I blocked Garmr. Someone still died. So either Garmr's a strongman, I was separately blocked or scum didn't send him for the kill.

VOTE: Garmr
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Why doesn't it fit the game?
Because of all the macho roles?

We have the three watching type roles (2 trackers,watcher,Voyour)

A bunch of macho like roles including masons.

2 fruit vendors

2 masons one who can send messages

1 claimed none consecutive doctor.

A role blocker doesn't jive with town in this set up.

Also if any player had a half a brain I should be considered Confirmed town in this set up as well.

But we have intellectual masterminds

like tchill who was worthless this game that couldn't see that.

Titus · Post Post #5378 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:08 pm

In post 5377, Garmr wrote:
In post 5374, Hectic wrote:
In post 5371, Garmr wrote:
In post 5369, Hectic wrote:Wait, I thought Titus claimed VT?
She claimed to of roleblocked me yesterday.

In post 5372, Garmr wrote:
In post 5056, Titus wrote:I am a one shot roleblocker. I held it until last night because I figured it was negative utility. I blocked Garmr. Someone still died. So either Garmr's a strongman, I was separately blocked or scum didn't send him for the kill.

VOTE: Garmr
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Why doesn't it fit the game?
Because of all the macho roles?
We have the three watching type roles (2 trackers,watcher,Voyour)

A bunch of macho like roles including masons.

2 fruit vendors

2 masons one who can send messages

1 claimed none consecutive doctor.

A role blocker doesn't jive with town in this set up.

Also if any player had a half a brain I should be considered Confirmed town in this set up as well.

But we have intellectual masterminds like tchill who was worthless this game that couldn't see that.

So multiple flipped cops were ignored by a scum roleblocker just to hit you once?

Nice try Garmr. You're scum.

Titus · Post Post #5379 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:09 pm

In post 5375, Garmr wrote:Starting to wonder if Rick is actually scum. Titus being the scum roleblocker and all and untouched by rick all game when his the outed doctor.

If a mythical scum roleblocker exists, why would you suppose Rick is untouched?

You know he wasn't because you know I'm town.

Titus · Post Post #5380 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:10 pm

In post 5359, texcat wrote:
In post 5358, Hectic wrote:VOTE: Texcat

Probably never getting a claim out of her.
I refuse to claim unless a known townie asks me to claim.

I am asking.

Titus · Post Post #5381 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:12 pm

Texcat, you're a diversion for scum at this point. We want to lynch Garmr. You see it. Just claim already.

texcat · Post Post #5382 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:19 pm

AaronFrost · Post Post #5383 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:24 pm

tex why were you so hesitant to claim VT? And why am I on your 'never lynch' list? You've been dodging most of the questions directed at you.

AaronFrost · Post Post #5384 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:25 pm

In post 5377, Garmr wrote:Also if any player had a half a brain I should be considered Confirmed town in this set up as well.

And why should we consider you conf town?

AaronFrost · Post Post #5385 (ISO) » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:35 pm

I'm seeing a lot of 'AaronFrost is most likely scum here' yet not seeing any votes on me. I wonder why scum is so hesitant to attempt a mislynch on me?

bob3141 · Post Post #5386 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:38 am

whats teh votes at now

Hopkirk · Post Post #5387 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:07 am

In post 5385, AaronFrost wrote:I'm seeing a lot of 'AaronFrost is most likely scum here' yet not seeing any votes on me. I wonder why scum is so hesitant to attempt a mislynch on me?

Nobody's said you're most likely scum iirc.

I've said you're in my very small scumpool and Bob has definitely put you there. People like Hectic/Texcat either have you as town, or as 'scum but I'd prefer to lynch other people first'.

Hopkirk · Post Post #5388 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:09 am

@Titus: Ever going to go over who else you want to lynch after Garmr? Assuming a Garmr scumflip.

Same question @Tex and probably @Aaron.

Hopkirk · Post Post #5389 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:12 am

In post 5314, texcat wrote:
In post 5307, Hopkirk wrote:(Titus/Texcat/AFF/Hectic) are the 'let's lynch Garmr block. I still have a townread on Garmr. None of them have addressed the main reason I've given for this despite me mentioning it at least twice to Hectic yesterday.
@Titus@Texcat@AFF@Hectic

Why does Garmr actually make that claim. It's such a bad fakeclaim for scum to make for so many reasons at that time.

All of them are pushing for him despite how much the rest of that block is pushing for him- despite the fact I think I'm the only non confirmed town who doesn't want to lynch Garmr. @Hectic especially: why did AFF/Texcat want to lynch Garmr yesterday so badly?

I want to lynch (Titus/Tex/Aff) today then have a look at Hectic before making the final decision. That's almost definitely the scumteam though.
I don't think it's a bad fake claim at all. It was a good, safe, early fake claim. Garmr was just unlucky that Carca was ascetic.

On the other hand, I think it was a terrible town claim if Garmr is actually town.

So the only way that they can have got that result on Rick is by tracking Rick as far as I can tell.

Garmr was hinting at a tracker style role in his d1 interactions with Elements in a way that was going slightly against an Elements lynch.

Why does Garmr make that claim (as scum) d2, unprompted, in a way that doesn't lead anyone else to the lynch when he doesn't know what else is in the game? It's so easy to get caught in a conflict. If any of the fruit vendors/trackers/watchers we knew were in the game created a conflict in regard to actions - either in terms of his target or in terms of who they interacted with, he's basically caught.

Hectic · Post Post #5390 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:13 am

In post 5386, bob3141 wrote:whats teh votes at now

Rick and I on Texcat.
Garmr and Titus on each other.
You on me.

Mind unvoting? If you're town and there's 4 scum alive (very likely), they can quickhammer me once they align schedules and are all online simultaneously.

Garmr · Post Post #5391 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:29 am

In post 5384, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 5377, Garmr wrote:Also if any player had a half a brain I should be considered Confirmed town in this set up as well.
And why should we consider you conf town?

Set up spec,the fact I been hinting at my role since day 1, The fact every scum player wants to lynch me, what hopkirk said in post 5389. Should I go on.

Garmr · Post Post #5392 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:40 am

Town
Garmr
Carralilly
Rick
Bob
Hopkirk

Scum team is this

Titus
Texcat
Hectic
AaronFrost

I'm town Carra is confirmed town
Rick is most likely town due to his role not any of his play. Bob is confirmed by the power roles and Hopkirk could of won by now if he was scum by voting me.

Titus is obvious scum. Tex won't vote titus because her only chance of winning is to lynch me over titus. Aaron frost and hectic are scum by POE.

Garmr · Post Post #5393 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:47 am

Also there's no scenario where Titus and Texcat are both town together.

The scum team would have to be
Me
Hectic
frost
Hop

Hop and kirk are not scum together. So we can already rule that out. I know I'm not scum so I can also rule that scenario out. So since that scenario is impossible.

It leaves either a svt or svs. If Titus is scum then having tex vote me has already thrown the game as they have shown no interest in voting off me. The game would of ended. If titus is town same scenario game would of ended as both are stubborn with their votes. Their reluctance to vote each other and titus lack of read on tex shows they are scum partners in every scenario.

Garmr · Post Post #5394 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:48 am

Does anyone who is not titus/tex agree or disagree with tex/titus being scum partners. and why?

texcat · Post Post #5395 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:31 am

In post 5383, AaronFrost wrote:tex why were you so hesitant to claim VT? And why am I on your 'never lynch' list? You've been dodging most of the questions directed at you.

I'm not lynching you today. After your horrible vote on Eevee, I'm willing to reconsider later.
I was reluctant to claim because the people who were asking and trying to direct the mass claim were mostly in my scum column. I was hoping by refusing maybe they'd waste some night actions on me or kill me.

In post 5388, Hopkirk wrote:@Titus: Ever going to go over who else you want to lynch after Garmr? Assuming a Garmr scumflip.

Same question @Tex and probably @Aaron.

Pretty sure I've already answered who my top 3 are.

Hectic · Post Post #5396 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:33 am

In post 5300, Hectic wrote:
In post 5281, texcat wrote:
In post 5181, texcat wrote:VOTE: Garmr

I am also willing to lynch Hectic and Hopkirk. This is based, in part, on the fact that scum missed the blatant Benedict Arnold crumb from the traitor.

I am never voting Rick, Carca, Titus, or Aaron.
Still willing to vote Garmr Hectic or Hopkirk. Rick made a dreadful hammer after a horrible vote by Aaron, but both remain on my don't lynch today list. Carca and Titus remain on my never lynch list.
Why are you never lynching Titus, and unlikely to lynch Aaron?

In post 5363, Hectic wrote:
In post 5359, texcat wrote:
In post 5358, Hectic wrote:VOTE: Texcat

Probably never getting a claim out of her.
I refuse to claim unless a known townie asks me to claim.
Want to answer why you're never lynching Aaron or Titus?
How can you be so sure of them when most likely it's 4 scum in {Aaron, Titus, Texcat, Garmr, Hop, Hectic}.
You're basically saying it's the other 4 if you believe Bob and Rick's claims.

@Texcat

texcat · Post Post #5397 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:49 am

In post 5396, Hectic wrote:
In post 5300, Hectic wrote:
In post 5281, texcat wrote:
In post 5181, texcat wrote:VOTE: Garmr

I am also willing to lynch Hectic and Hopkirk. This is based, in part, on the fact that scum missed the blatant Benedict Arnold crumb from the traitor.

I am never voting Rick, Carca, Titus, or Aaron.
Still willing to vote Garmr Hectic or Hopkirk. Rick made a dreadful hammer after a horrible vote by Aaron, but both remain on my don't lynch today list. Carca and Titus remain on my never lynch list.
Why are you never lynching Titus, and unlikely to lynch Aaron?

In post 5363, Hectic wrote:
In post 5359, texcat wrote:
In post 5358, Hectic wrote:VOTE: Texcat

Probably never getting a claim out of her.
I refuse to claim unless a known townie asks me to claim.
Want to answer why you're never lynching Aaron or Titus?
How can you be so sure of them when most likely it's 4 scum in {Aaron, Titus, Texcat, Garmr, Hop, Hectic}.
You're basically saying it's the other 4 if you believe Bob and Rick's claims.
@Texcat

I feel like I've said all of this numerous times already. Titus is town. Look at her vote record. Look at her meta. She's never missed a breadcrumb. I'm not so sure about Aaron after his vote on Eevee. And Bob's claim is iffy. Rick's claim looks good, but his play is not what I would normally expect. I don't know right now who I would pick for the 4th scum.

AaronFrost · Post Post #5398 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:02 am

In post 5388, Hopkirk wrote:@Titus: Ever going to go over who else you want to lynch after Garmr? Assuming a Garmr scumflip.

Same question @Tex and probably @Aaron.

Assuming Garmr scumflip I'd lynch in {you, Hectic, tex}.

AaronFrost · Post Post #5399 (ISO) » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:07 am

In post 5391, Garmr wrote:
In post 5384, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 5377, Garmr wrote:Also if any player had a half a brain I should be considered Confirmed town in this set up as well.
And why should we consider you conf town?
Set up spec,the fact I been hinting at my role since day 1, The fact every scum player wants to lynch me, what hopkirk said in post 5389. Should I go on.

Literally none of that confirms you as town.