Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!

[MafiaSSK]

Why aren't you asking questions of people trying to find something suspicious then?

Haven't thought about it.

[Macavenger]

b]Unvote; Vote: Jex[/b] (SSK)

[Macavenger]

Damn tags.

Unvote; Vote: Jex

[Nocmen]

and questioning advocations for mass claims and discussing role discrepencies isn't normal, Nocmen?

I was more referring as to people who are still looking really deep in the rules and how this game works, when it seems we have a good enough basis for now to go and at least look for scum.

[Tarhalindur]

"Only an idiot amateur would go out right now!"

The Twenty-Second Vote Count (aka the "Spoon? What spoon? There is no spoon." Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (2)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Cavebear with a toothache, remussaidow
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): Battousai, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 18, 2008

Next Mod Deadline Review:

July 11, 2008

[Yosarian2]

Wait...why does the votecount have Macavenger as voting for Jex?

[remussaidow]

um...
because he is, yos?

posts 251/2

[Yosarian2]

Yeah, I know he is, but when you vote someone the vote should go to the next person, right?

[iamausername]

It does, but your name still shows up in the wrong place on the vote count, remember? The numbers are what's important, and there's a (2) next to SSK, not Jex.

[Battousai]

yes, but look at the number beside Jex's name. It's 0, while MafiaSSK has a 2 next to his name. MafiaSSK also has a 2 names besides him, but that's because those 2 people are voting for me.

[Yosarian2]

It does, but your name still shows up in the wrong place on the vote count, remember? The numbers are what's important, and there's a (2) next to SSK, not Jex.

Ah...ok, that explains it.

[Battousai]

The reason I proclaimed the mass role name claim is because that is the only part of the role pm that may be quoted. Now personally, there isn't much use for the mass claim right now, but I was mainly reaction fishing. I wanted to see if anyone would actually ask me why I think it's a good idea. No one really did for awhile, and I don't think there are 3 MORE scum (at least 3 people didn't ask me why). So I'll go with a second reaction that I found. I didn't expect to be voted right away, let alone a bandwagon would form. The person I found suspicious was remussaidow. Mac and cavebear both voted me also, but their votes, to me, didn't seem scummy. Cavebear voted first to note that what I did seemed scummy, fair enough. Mac did the same thing, but he also added in for the moment. That seemed like he was going to let me explain myself when I get back on and/or that he wasn't all that sure of how scummy I was. Then there is remussaidow. His vote seemed different. He put me at half majority for that one remark. His vote seemed like a bandwagon vote, since 2 people had already back to back voted me. To me that seems like he placed his vote thinking that others would vote me right away or that I would be lynched soon. His reasoning seemed accusatory, like he actually thinks I'm scum just as much as iamausername thinks mafiaSSK is scum.

[remussaidow]

Bat, I hadn't realized that Cavebear's vote was on you, I thought I was putting you at 2 votes for that.

And on your count that "I actually think you're scum"... Well, it could seem that way, as I do think you are the currently scummiest player. I've never seen a protown player advocate for a massclaim early in the game- for any reason. But by now, I'm beating a dead horse with this argument, since I've made it already before.

[Nocmen]

I think there are advantages of some mass claim, but I really don't know anymore. Really, I have decided that they are a bad idea unless it is in lylo, or we are trying to piece together a bunch of other claims towards trying to figure out what is missing.

nevertheless, anyone like to go on a class trip?

[Tarhalindur]

"Follow the white rabbit."

Edit due to mod error: Musher333 has requested replacement.

The Twenty-Third Vote Count (aka the "Is It Dead or Alive? Yes, Until You Open the Box." Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (2)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (2) - Cavebear with a toothache, remussaidow
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): Battousai, MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 18, 2008

Next Mod Deadline Review:

July 11, 2008

[Macavenger]

Batt's 261 is a good post. I like the probability of him being town a lot better after that. You pretty much nailed the reasoning on my vote, other than that it was also partially a reaction to Tar's "shut up and vote."

I'm pretty much planning on leaving my vote on SSK until he actually decides to post some content. More votes to force him to do so would be great.

[Battousai]

Vote: Jex

Last game I was in with MafiaSSK, he was very quite and not contributing to the point of lurking. Upon being fronted with this he came up with the Lurk Strategy in which protown players don't bring attention to lurkers until close to deadline and scum bring them out early as they are easy lynches/ distractionary. He was killed and he was scum. If he's trying the same strategy, I think there is an equal chance of him being scum.

Jex hasn't been that active also (When I think about the game without rereading, I don't remember much content from him.).

FoS: Jex

[MafiaSSK]

Vote: Jex

Last game I was in with MafiaSSK, he was very quite and not contributing to the point of lurking. Upon being fronted with this he came up with the Lurk Strategy in which protown players don't bring attention to lurkers until close to deadline and scum bring them out early as they are easy lynches/ distractionary. He was killed and he was scum. If he's trying the same strategy, I think there is an equal chance of him being scum.

Jex hasn't been that active also (When I think about the game without rereading, I don't remember much content from him.).

FoS: Jex

Nope. I'm trying not to use the same strategy. I also haven't really found anything worth quesitoning about.

[Macavenger]

Nope. I'm trying not to use the same strategy. I also haven't really found anything worth quesitoning about.

I don't care whether you're using the same strategy or not. You're still active lurking and being blatantly anti-town about it. There has been plenty going on to give at least a few comments or questions. Start contributing or die.

[Tarhalindur]

"I will take the ring, though I know not the way"

The Twenty-Fourth Vote Count (aka the "Ausgezeichnet!" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (2)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3) - Cavebear with a toothache, remussaidow

Musher333 (0)

Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (5): MafiaSSK, Musher333, Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Battousai
Musher333 (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (1) - Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 18, 2008

Next Mod Deadline Review:

July 11, 2008

[Cavebear with a toothache]

Mod Watch™

This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays.

- Arthur Dent,

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

...and you seemed like an honest man...

Don't know.

Only an idiot amateur would go out now!

Don't know this either.

Follow the white rabbit.

The Matrix

. Also,

Alice in Wonderland

.

I will take the ring, though I know not the way.

- Frodo,

The Lord of the Rings

.

I'm not claiming a power role at all. I simply asked if anything happened because I have no idea what my role does. At this point I have no idea if the action was caused by me or someone else and I don't want anyone to say if they targeted him because i don't want to out anyone. My role is the most confusing thing I've ever read in a game of mafia and I'm trying to start making sense of it if I can.

Interesting, I didn't have any problem understanding my role. I wasn't under the impression that the roles were particularly confusing, rather the rest of the game; did I just get lucky there?

My role is not particularly confusing. I'm intrigued (and a bit alarmed) by Jex's mini-claim... I could imagine all kinds of interesting (and dangerous) stuff in a setup like this.

Nocmen: What was that about a trip?

Last game I was in with MafiaSSK, he was very quite and not contributing to the point of lurking. Upon being fronted with this he came up with the Lurk Strategy in which protown players don't bring attention to lurkers until close to deadline and scum bring them out early as they are easy lynches/ distractionary. He was killed and he was scum. If he's trying the same strategy, I think there is an equal chance of him being scum.

I unfortunately don't have time to read someone's meta right now (unless maybe if it's a very short game... was it?) or I'd ask for a link to that game. Nevertheless, MafiaSSK is obviously lurking in plain sight, and I don't have a problem with adding a pressure vote.

Unvote, vote: Jex

(MafiaSSK)

Note: Starting this Friday (IE tomorrow) I'll be out of town with limited access until Monday the 21:st. Should be able to check in (and definitely will before the deadline) but not sure how often.

[Nocmen]

I can see that SSK is somewhat lurking, but really, I don't know what to say about a confusing role. I feel that something confusing like that is trying to hint at something,but I'm not sure if a scum person would mention their role at all.

fos: Jex

[remussaidow]

unvote

Not that I don't find him suspicious. My computer broke, so I'll only be on sporadically. I don't want him to get lynched without me seeing if my vote still stands.

v/la for a few days, sorry.

[Battousai]

cavebear: the game was 20 pages long I think, but all you would have to do is display all posts by mafiassk newest first at the bottom of the page. The game was Akatsuki mafia, link should be in his profile.

Mac: Why do you think I'm more town now than I was previously?

[Macavenger]

Well, for one thing I was only moderately suspicious of you in the first place. But the way you analyzed the mini-wagon that formed on you struck me as rather honest and townish.