Mini 586 - Blood Red Mafia - Game Over!

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

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populartajo (2) - Macavenger, Greasy Spot

Greasy Spot (1) - Shepherd_of_Wolves

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch!

[goborage]

Admittedly, I've had my eye on GS but you guys are making some good points about pop. Some things I've noticed:

Made @ start of D5:

Goboroge is the obvious play.

Now its true that if Gob is the doc then he shouldnt be lynched until later stages of the game. I know this. I even unvoted him yesterday trying to find out if he indeed was one. If he's scum then kudos, he found a decent way to stay alive until the endgame but it will be very difficult (but not impossible) to win this game with Mac and/or SoW around.

I don't like this. Much like my attack on pop D2, this is a 180. I'm glad you're starting to see my townness but I don't like the manner in which you've done it. I view this as pop caving in to pressure - 'people are starting to look my way so I better change gears.' "I even unvoted him yesterday trying to find out if he indeed was one [a doc]" - sounds like BS to me. At no point does pop take a definite stance on my claim. Up to his most recent posts pop continues to make scummy insinuations about me (it's like a never-ending barrage really) but is unwilling (why?) to place a vote on me.

Conclusion: we should be looking either Goborage or Coheed.

We have to decide between Coheed and Goborage. Nuff said.

I told you not to lynch Coheed.
Goboroge is the obvious play.

Anyone else notice a trend of pop flip-flopping and appealing to the masses?

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

unvote; VOTE: Populartajo

[populartajo]

I had to pay for my mistakes some day. Id suggest not to lynch me but I guess it had to happen sooner or later.
Dont forget to lynch Greasy or Gobo.

[populartajo]

And Gobo I realized Coheed was town when he semiclaimed at L-1.

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

Look Popular, you say that you see grease as an individual character (with the innuendo that he is against town in his individuality). This does not sound probable because there has never been a two night kill. So, in my book we should only have one team of villains. Everyone in the game is claiming to be clean. So, what reason should we have to trust you. Gobo has some good points that you switch back and forth rapidly.

So, if we decided to lynch grease or gobo, what would be our reason?

I will

UNVOTE

so as to give you time to answer. But, I intend to return my vote again. My pick is between you and Grease. Why should I choose grease over you. You seem wishy washy.

[Amor]

Okay guys, I've finished my reread and my opinion is pretty much the same. Populartajo's about-face on Darla is still suspect, and I don't quite buy that Malthusius's flip completely changed things for him. He hasn't really done anything scummy since then, but neither has he really been that helpful. His recent fatalistic posts don't sit with me either. GS has been lurking a lot, but seems to be playing to meta, so for the moment I favour popular.

vote populartajo

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

Popular, discuss my questions in post 605 please. You have only one more lynch vote. Me and Gobo are the only ones holding out yet.

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

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populartajo (3) - Macavenger, Greasy Spot, Amor

With 6 alive, it's 4 to lynch!

[populartajo]

Look Popular, you say that you see grease as an individual character (with the innuendo that he is against town in his individuality). This does not sound probable because there has never been a two night kill. So, in my book we should only have one team of villains. Everyone in the game is claiming to be clean. So, what reason should we have to trust you. Gobo has some good points that you switch back and forth rapidly.

So, if we decided to lynch grease or gobo, what would be our reason?

I will

UNVOTE

so as to give you time to answer. But, I intend to return my vote again. My pick is between you and Grease. Why should I choose grease over you. You seem wishy washy.

I never said Greasy was in another scum group.
Look.

At this moment of the game

everyone but you and Mac can be scum. We have to think in every little possibility and yes I think is possible (although I have to admit not much) that Greasy could be scum.
In fact, the only reason I used to think why Greasy wasnt scum was when Darla bused him to death at the end of D2. I thought like this:
We have two possibilities here.
a) He's scum and he told Darla to bus him as she was probably going to be lynched eventually.
b) He isnt scum and Darla really tried to kill him to get another day of life.
Now we have to decide which is the most possible. Notice that yesterday reason b seemed more possible but today with Coheed out and Goborage sounding more like a probable doc we have to think in everything.

...........
I dont know what are you thinking about Gobo's point. I can quote what almost eveyone said at some point of the game and obviously is going to sound contradictory because things

change

and so do opinions. No wishy washy here.
If you're deciding between Greasy and me then obviously Im going to suggest you voting for Greasy becuase I know Im a villager and Greasy, at least, has more possibilites of being scum than me.

[populartajo]

Okay guys, I've finished my reread and my opinion is pretty much the same. Populartajo's about-face on Darla is still suspect, and I don't quite buy that Malthusius's flip completely changed things for him. He hasn't really done anything scummy since then, but neither has he really been that helpful. His recent fatalistic posts don't sit with me either. GS has been lurking a lot, but seems to be playing to meta, so for the moment I favour popular.

vote populartajo

What fatalistic posts? And please stop using meta when there are like 6 people here.

[Macavenger]

tajo, what you just posted really isn't a defense, or a case on anyone else. It was pretty much just "please guys don't lynch me." That doesn't really do anything for me. Look at all possibilities? We have been, and you look like scum. You look at them, and tell us who's scum and why we should lynch them over you.

[populartajo]

tajo, what you just posted really isn't a defense, or a case on anyone else. It was pretty much just "please guys don't lynch me." That doesn't really do anything for me. Look at all possibilities? We have been, and you look like scum. You look at them, and tell us who's scum and why we should lynch them over you.

Mac, what do you want me to do? Im at L-1. I already claimed and I definetely dont want to be lynched but sigh, all things go against me. Sure, I knew this was going to happen but I have already explained why I acted like that and you guys simply cant believe me.
Its OK. I wouldnt believe it easily if I were in the other side but if I need to be lynched to let you know the truth then fine, Im ok with it. I learnt my lesson.

Now Ill tell you what I think.

I still have problems believing Gobo's claim taking in count we feel a little overpowered as town for scum, that Rice could also protect and that we had a martyr. But lets wish he's the real doc becuase I can see a lot of WIFOM and a lot of hard decisions to come if he's scum.

Now based in Darla's play I though Greasy was an improbable scumpartner. But NOW we have to look every possibility. We cant just lynch like yesterday.

Again I can see a possibility of Greasy couching Darla to bus him entirely to let him win. I cant say he's 100% scum becuase Id be lying but there's the possibility.

I cant take out my mind the idea that Gobo's scum.

[populartajo]

Post 601 is a bad post for a doctor.

[Macavenger]

Post 601 is a bad post for a doctor.

Why?

[populartajo]

Becuase Im not so doing what he is saying in that post.

Now put your WIFOM glasses.
Why would I try to kill you or SOW if you didnt suspect me yesterday? WHy not him? Why is he alive?
Anyways we arent going to lynch a claimed doc but theres something wrong with him. I just cant tell.

[Macavenger]

Because you needed him alive as a mislynch, obv.

A hammer would be neato.

[populartajo]

Wrong.
How do you plan to win the game when I come up villager? We're losing our advantage and you know that.

[Macavenger]

I plan to win the game when you come up werewolf.

Failing that, we'll have to decide between gobo and Greasy.

[populartajo]

Do you realize that the only difference between Gobo and me is that he claimed doctor?

[Macavenger]

Successful saves on 2 different people make his claim far more likely than previously.

Your entire defense being lots of WIFOM is not lowering my confidence that you're scum any.

[populartajo]

At least we have a decent town. Thats the only thing that doesnt make me feel worried. Pleas lynch Gobo tomorrow.

[goborage]

Hammer time.

Vote: populartajo

[populartajo]

Look at the guy who suspected GS hammering me.

[populartajo]

I was a villager BTW. Good luck town. Tomorrow will be hard. But you deserve this game.