BooneyToonz XIII: To Boon or Not To Boon - [END]

[Titus]

I hate that I missed like 30 hours of this game and it’s 30 pages. I am on page 3. JFC.

Chk claimed miller.
A50 confirmed miller in setup.
A50 claimed weak desperate 1 shot visitor.
Eon claimed disloyal hider.
Drew claimed to be in a hood with Joan.

I think that’s about right.

I claimed Suikoden. How about them apples? I am suspicious of Drew/Joan but less so of Drew.

Seriously though, I'm a bit crabby and suspicious of everyone. Jsyk. There's certain slots that make sense as town.

[Amrun]

I hate that I missed like 30 hours of this game and it’s 30 pages. I am on page 3. JFC.

Chk claimed miller.
A50 confirmed miller in setup.
A50 claimed weak desperate 1 shot visitor.
Eon claimed disloyal hider.
Drew claimed to be in a hood with Joan.

I think that’s about right.

I claimed Suikoden. How about them apples? I am suspicious of Drew/Joan but less so of Drew.

Seriously though, I'm a bit crabby and suspicious of everyone. Jsyk. There's certain slots that make sense as town.

Why is A50 on this list twice? I’m confused. And what is a Suikoden?

@chkflp: don’t worry I’ll read, ASAP, but there is a chance I don’t catch up until tomorrow night at this posting rate.

[Venus and Mars]

I hate that I missed like 30 hours of this game and it’s 30 pages. I am on page 3. JFC.

Chk claimed miller.
A50 confirmed miller in setup.
A50 claimed weak desperate 1 shot visitor.
Eon claimed disloyal hider.
Drew claimed to be in a hood with Joan.

I think that’s about right.

I claimed Suikoden. How about them apples? I am suspicious of Drew/Joan but less so of Drew.

Seriously though, I'm a bit crabby and suspicious of everyone. Jsyk. There's certain slots that make sense as town.

Why is A50 on this list twice? I’m confused. And what is a Suikoden?

@chkflp: don’t worry I’ll read, ASAP, but there is a chance I don’t catch up until tomorrow night at this posting rate.

I’m not sure exactly because he didn’t explicitly say but he claims a miller is confirmed to be in the setup but I’m probably not explaining this very well.

[Titus]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

[Venus and Mars]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

[chkflip]

Google it? I didn't understand the reference but ig you might.

[Titus]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

[Venus and Mars]

Google it? I didn't understand the reference but ig you might.

I have no clue, this is the first I’ve heard of it, so your guess is as good as mine as to what she’s referring to.

[Titus]

Google it? I didn't understand the reference but ig you might.

I have no clue, this is the first I’ve heard of it, so your guess is as good as mine as to what she’s referring to.

Too much extrapolation needed. You'll see later. Or I'll have A50 do it.

[50 Judge Powers]

Why is A50 on this list twice? I’m confused. And what is a Suikoden?

First mention tells you I confirmed there is a Miller, Second mention is my claim. So chkflip claimed and I confirmed his claim and then claimed myself.

[Venus and Mars]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

[50 Judge Powers]

I’m not sure exactly because he didn’t explicitly say but he claims a miller is confirmed to be in the setup but I’m probably not explaining this very well.

Here's how it went: I read my role PM and noticed my action "fails" if I', targeting someone not aligned with the group Scum. I also noticed my shot gets refunded "if my action doesn't go through", so I ask (myself first and then the mod) what's the difference between fail and doesn't do through? Or are they the same thing?

So he says it's basically the same, but it could also be blocked or I'm targeting and Ascetic in theory. So that means (this is me interpreting it) my action fails if I do not successfully visit Scum for any given reason, and not necessarily because I hit a townie. Then he was kind enough to reiterate that Desperate means I can only hit scum or what "returns a scum result" (paraphrased), at which point I deduced there had to be a Miller for that specific phrasing to be used (when it was not in my original role PM).

So I came to the thread expecting to see a Miller claim sooner than later (because that's the optimal play for a Miller), and I did.

If you look closer there a hint that there "might" be a Scum RB out there, but maybe not. It's a 50-50 IMHO judging by how it was phrased. But the Miller thing was like 90% in my mind when I read the mod's response to my question, so that was the main point on my mind when I came into the thread.

[Titus]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

Apple not Shyvana. Shyvana I would not be anywhere as cooperative or subtle.

[Venus and Mars]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

Apple not Shyvana. Shyvana I would not be anywhere as cooperative or subtle.

I think I might possibly have a clue what you mean? but I’m beginning to hardtown read you now.

[Boonskiies]

Emperor flippyNips is VLA. He’s part of the majority of my busy weekend.

The Baker, backup mod, is also VLA.

What a rough time. Starting the 1st, I’ll be more active here. There WILL be a vote count likely tomorrow morning.

The Baker and I are actually meeting up with Krazy later tonight! I might be home early enough to get a vote count late tonight, but if I’m buzzed from going out with Krazy, it’ll be tomorrow.

[Venus and Mars]

I’m not sure exactly because he didn’t explicitly say but he claims a miller is confirmed to be in the setup but I’m probably not explaining this very well.

Here's how it went: I read my role PM and noticed my action "fails" if I', targeting someone not aligned with the group Scum. I also noticed my shot gets refunded "if my action doesn't go through", so I ask (myself first and then the mod) what's the difference between fail and doesn't do through? Or are they the same thing?

So he says it's basically the same, but it could also be blocked or I'm targeting and Ascetic in theory. So that means (this is me interpreting it) my action fails if I do not successfully visit Scum for any given reason, and not necessarily because I hit a townie. Then he was kind enough to reiterate that Desperate means I can only hit scum or what "returns a scum result" (paraphrased), at which point I deduced there had to be a Miller for that specific phrasing to be used (when it was not in my original role PM).

So I came to the thread expecting to see a Miller claim sooner than later (because that's the optimal play for a Miller), and I did.

If you look closer there a hint that there "might" be a Scum RB out there, but maybe not. It's a 50-50 IMHO judging by how it was phrased. But the Miller thing was like 90% in my mind when I read the mod's response to my question, so that was the main point on my mind when I came into the thread.

Oh okay, I get it. I also think that both yours and Eon’s roles, make it likely there’s no cop in this setup, like I don’t think there was one in Undertale either iirc? Or if there is, it’s probably not an alignment cop, because that would seem redundant.

[Venus and Mars]

Spoiler:

,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ BooneyToonz Guidelines ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸

Guidelines Key:

BooneyToonz Rolebook: Any Roles.
Boon Bank: 1 role.
Variants: 1 variant for mini, 2 variants for large. These variants can be an additional Boon Bank role.
ContraBoon'd: Never acceptable.

(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.· BooneyToonz RoleBook ·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)

These roles are free game. Any of these roles are acceptable within the BooneyToonz games. This mostly coincides with the Normal Queue. Generally, when roles are added to the Normal Queue Guidelines, they shall be updated here as well.

Town Only

Vanilla Townie, Friendly Neighbor, Innocent Child, Juvenile Delinquent, Mason, Miller, Named Townie, Super Saint, Vigilante, Vengeful,

Mafia Only

Mafia Goon, Traitor, Named Scummie

Any Alignment

Babysitter, Bodyguard, Bunyip, Commuter, Cop, Detective, Doctor, Follower, Fruit Vendor, Gunsmith, Hider, Inventor, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Lover, Messenger, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Psychologist, PT Cop, Roleblocker, Rolecop, Rolestopper, Tracker, Traffic Analyst, Universal Backup, Vanilla Cop, Visitor, Voyeur, Watcher, Willbooster

Third Party

Serial Killer

Modifiers

Activate,Announcing, Ascetic, Backup, Bulletproof, Complex, Combined, Desperate, Enabler, Informed, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot, Ninja, Compulsive, Loyal, Disloyal, Loud, Recharged, Reflexive, Simple, Split, Strongman, Night Specific (Any form, Even/Odd/Novice included)

(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.·(¯`·._.· Boon Bank ·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)·._.·´¯)

These roles are roles that have been seen before, but are not free reign. One of these roles is acceptable, if more are used, they will take the spot of a variant role.

Symbiotic

During the first night of the game, you must target someone by PM'ing the mod. This action cannot be prevented by any means. If this person is ever successfully targeted for a night kill, you will be killed in their place. If you and your target are not of the same alignment, all investigative actions that are targeted towards you or your target will fail. In other words, you and your target will be ascetic for investigative roles only. You will not be informed of this.

Enchantress

Every night, you may target a player. You will force that player to commute, meaning any actions performed by or targeting your target will fail. If your target is not aligned with town, you will also commute during the night. You will not be informed of this. If you were to be roleblocked, your action will not go through.

StickyFruit Vendor

At night, you will give your target a "Sticky Fruit". They will be informed that they have received a Sticky Fruit, but not who they received it from. They will be informed that they may pass it along the following night. Any player given a Sticky Fruit will be immune to all actions, EXCEPT for killing actions, the night they receive the fruit.

Renegade

Each night, you may give a modifier (out of a given list) out to a player. This can be a permanent modifier or apply to only the next action.

Archaeologist:

Credit: Something_Smart

Each night, you will passively target each player who dies that night. You will get a complete list of all actions they took that night and all previous nights, and who was targeted by that action. (This is very strong but can be nerfed several way: limited-shot active ability, allowing them to see only actions taken in the same night, forcing them to target a player who died in a previous night instead of auto-targeting.)

Disabler:

Credit: Something_Smart

Any action targeting you at night cannot be used the next night-- players are informed of this as soon as it occurs (but the Disabler is never informed). Can affect the factional kill. (Optional: make this a targeted active ability instead)

Suicide Bomber

Anytime during the day, you may activate your ability. You will die, but you will be able to kill someone else with you immediately.

Hunter/Hunted

These roles will take the spot of the Boon Bank. Hunter has to have the Hunted killed before a specific day. These are innately Third Party, and can be combined with other roles. If they have something not in the Role Book, they will be considered Variants

❚█══█❚ ContraBoon'd ❚█══█❚

These are roles that are never allowed, not even as a variant role, however Extravaganza’s may use mechanics from this, a player cannot be the role themselves.

Non-Sane Cop, Blank Vig, Non-Sane or Quack Doctor, Cultist, Jester, Mafia Mason, Vanillaizer, Beloved Princess, Governor, Godfather, Percentage, Paranoid Gun Owner

@Boon, where can I find definitions for all of the Boon-specific roles?

I already checked the discussion thread.

[Titus]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

Apple not Shyvana. Shyvana I would not be anywhere as cooperative or subtle.

I think I might possibly have a clue what you mean? but I’m beginning to hardtown read you now.

Good. We have a solid core. You, A50, L and L, me, chkflip

[Haggle]

What does Weak mean?
Don't tell me this is one of those games where half the player base is role claiming on day 1.

-Hectic

[Titus]

What does Weak mean?
Don't tell me this is one of those games where half the player base is role claiming on day 1.

-Hectic

Weak means they die if they successfully target scum.

[Venus and Mars]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

Apple not Shyvana. Shyvana I would not be anywhere as cooperative or subtle.

I think I might possibly have a clue what you mean? but I’m beginning to hardtown read you now.

Good. We have a solid core. You, A50, L and L, me, chkflip

You don’t tr R & J or BEF?

[Titus]

It's an obscure reference for Nancy that's normal for me to not like. It might go over her head but it's a reachout.

“Sulkoden”? I’ve never heard you call me that before. K, thoroughly confused by this, whatever tf it is.

Not an L but an I.

Nobody's heard of my magical girl. Just make her normal with fruit.

I drew a picture of my French predicament.

Now I gtg.

So it’s not Shyvana then? I just thought maybe that might have been a reference to MG. So Suikoden? I’ll google that.

Apple not Shyvana. Shyvana I would not be anywhere as cooperative or subtle.

I think I might possibly have a clue what you mean? but I’m beginning to hardtown read you now.

Good. We have a solid core. You, A50, L and L, me, chkflip

You don’t tr R & J or BEF?

No. I don't. I don't know why on R and J. BEF gives me the creeps for the interaction awhile ago with RCE.

[Latias and Latios]

we aren't disloyal so i don't know where that idea came from

i also don't know why my partner is but i'm assuming they're just busy

@boon

, are variations on modifiers counted as variant roles?

-latias

[Doctor Drew]

It us also the main difference between how I function and how the L&L hydra function (regardless of the name of the role). They die to 3P and I don't.

Right, because they’re disloyal and you’re desperate. That makes me think there actually might be a 3P in this setup then, because then they probably would have gotten desperate weak hider over disloyal weak hider.

Emperor flippyNips is VLA. He’s part of the majority of my busy weekend.

The Baker, backup mod, is also VLA.

What a rough time. Starting the 1st, I’ll be more active here. There WILL be a vote count likely tomorrow morning.

The Baker and I are actually meeting up with Krazy later tonight! I might be home early enough to get a vote count late tonight, but if I’m buzzed from going out with Krazy, it’ll be tomorrow.

Do me a favor? Ask Baker if he had a True KVLT Christmas.

Anywho, Hectic only if Creature was in this game and demanding to know all roles.

I am curious for Amruns catch up. After playing with her in a recent game I am prepared, in addition to sheep Titus, I will also sheep Amrun.

Maybe sheep hectic, as long as he still scum reads me. I know he is town that way.

[Doctor Drew]

Oops, didn't mean to quite 850.