Mini 617 - Scottish Mafia, Game Over

[kuribo]

I will say that I'm noticing massive repeatedly ignoring the fact that Empking's arguments are absolutely retarded

Yeah, I bet empking feels mighty clever since I claimed.

(He'll feel less clever come twilight)

[starkmoon]

Cause it's the top of the page n all...

[col color=white]Player[col color=white]Votes[col color=white]Voting [col color=white]kuribo[col color=white]5[col color=white]massive, empking, kuribo, roflcopter, q21 [col color=white]Q21[col color=white]2[col color=white]CC09, Lowell [col color=white]Empking[col color=white]0[col color=white] [col color=white]Cybele[col color=white]1[col color=white]dcorbe [col color=white]dcorbe[col color=white]0[col color=white]

[col color=white]Not Voting : [col color=white] Cybele, cephrir

10 alive, 6 to lynch

spot a mistake, let me know right away

[Lowell]

Haha I love when scum whine that they were caught for stupid reasons.

Whatever helps you sleep better.

unvote, vote kuribo

[CoheedCambria09]

I didn't really believe Kuribo's claim, but we'll see when the lynch scene comes up. It looked more like a frustrated townie to me. Oh well.

[kuribo]

bah, go town etc

[Cephrir]

I can't believe that just happened. He'd better be scum.

[Cephrir]

Oh, and nice premature hammer Lowell.

[Lowell]

He's scum. Quit your whining, cephir.

[starkmoon]

[col color=white]Player[col color=white]Votes[col color=white]Voting [col color=white]kuribo[col color=white]6[col color=white]massive, empking, kuribo, roflcopter, q21, Lowell [col color=white]Q21[col color=white]1[col color=white]CC09 [col color=white]Empking[col color=white]0[col color=white] [col color=white]Cybele[col color=white]1[col color=white]dcorbe [col color=white]dcorbe[col color=white]0[col color=white]

[col color=white]Not Voting : [col color=white] Cybele, cephrir

10 alive, 6 to lynch

kuribo

townie

is nutted into oblivion... 72 hours for night choices please

Mirth will be replacing dcorbe when the game re-opens into day.

[starkmoon]

Day dawns.

Cephrir

townie

has been killed with a broken bottle.

Have at it...

8 Alive 5 to lynch.

[q21]

First things first: Who did you investigate, Empking?

[Empking]

I investigated Cephrir. I didn't get a reply.

[Empking]

Just got the reply. I got no result.

[starkmoon]

Yeah... I knew there was something I forgot to do before I opened the thread.

[Mirth]

The following is the PBPA I typed out last night.

Hi y’all. Replacing dcorbe. Since I have a lot of catching up to do, decided to do a PBPA to help me organize my thoughts/questions. My comments are in parentheses. I’m reading this “blind” Not looking at whos dead or their alignments until it comes up in thread, and reading dcorbe as if I weren’t replacing him.

4. Coheed random votes Roflcopter
5. Q random votes Coheed
6. Cephrir random votes Massive
7. Erratus random votes dRool (who is not in this game or got replaced during confirm stages? What?)
8. Mod post
9. Q jokingly(?) says Erratus is voting his scum buddy
10. Dcorbe votes mod.

11. Q joke post
12. Dcorbe joke post
13. Rofl random votes Lowell
14. Lowell (random? OMGUS?) votes Rofl
15. Empking (attempts to vote Erratus?) says Erratus should at least FOS everyone without an avatar.
16. Kuribo random votes Q, says short name suspicious
17. Rofl comments on Emp’s incorrect tags
18. Dcorbe says Emp is the only one without an avatar (No, not everyone will go find an avatar. I refuse on principle.)
19. Mod post
20. Q joke posts, tells Kuribo to bite him

21. Dcorbe FOSes Q for taking Kuribo too seriously too early (err…I wasn’t under the impression Q took him seriously
22. Vote Count
roflcopter 2 (CoheedCambria09 [CC09 from now on], Lowell)
CC09 1 (q21)
massive 1 (cephrir)
Erratus Apathos 1 ( dRool89)
Lowell 1 (roflcopter)
q21 1 (kuribo)
23. Cephrir asks why Dcorbe thought Q was serious
24. Dcorbe says Q “warned” him about the mod and “I told you so’d” him and “OMGUSed” kuribo (…er…what? How was that an OMGUS?)

Page 1 comments: were I playing at this point, my vote would be on DCorbe for a pointless FOS. Yes, I do realize that I’m replacing him.

25. Q says it was a page 1 joke, Dcorbe being touchy.
26. Q EBWOP that it *was* page 1.
27. Dcorbe concedes point.
28. Cybele random(?) votes Dcorbe
29. Vote Count (I am not reposting the charts. I like to include vote counts in my PBPs but I am not repostin the charts cause they screw up formatting.)
30. Coheed likes the chart.
31. Emp votes Erratus, says if Dcorbe is right, Erratus is lying about vote (errr…wtf? This is crap logic)
32. Erratus revotes Drool (not paying attention apparently. I don’t like that), jokingly (?) accuses Emp of also being scum for lacking avatar.
33. Lowell votes Coheed (why?)
34. Cephrir votes Rofl (why?)

35. Emp votes Lowell (…wait, what? First a craplogic what appears to be serious vote on Erratus and then an unexplained unvote and vote of someone completely different? This would probably have earned my vote at this point.)
36. Kuribo asks about the voting without explanations
37. Emp accuses Kuribo of ruining it (doesn’t post explanation, doesn’t comment on Erratus. Don’t like this post.)
38. Dcorbe accuses Erratus of breadcrumbing in post 32, votes Erratus
39. Massive doesn’t understand how it’s breadcrumbing, thinks should move past RVS because “it’s page 3” (another person not really paying attention. If you want to move past RVS why don’t you do something about it?)
40. Dcorbe fosse Massive for “being anti-scumhunting” (I’m not sure who deserves the pressure/fishing vote more at this point, Dcorbe or Emp)
41. Dcorbe says hes trying to get a pressure wagon to get out of RVS as clarification.
42. Emp jokes (?) (why not explain the vote?)
43. Cephrir says Dcorbes posts are weird, that Erratus isn’t breadcrumbing, Massive isn’t anti-scumhunting, that Dcorbe is taking everything too seriously. (actually Dcorbe has a point that Massive isn’t doing anything to get out of RVS)
44. Kuribo says Dcorbe removed all the pressure by saying it was a pressure vote (agreed)

45. Kuribo asks Erratus how he knows how many scum there are. (Good catch, I didn’t notice this. Though most people like to assume 3 for some reason)
46. Dcorbe quotes 45, says that is what is meant by breadcrumbing, says nothing wrong with taking things seriously, says there needs to be real pressure votes not randomness (better post)
47. Lowell ditto’s kuribo, votes Erratus
48. Erratus votes Massive for suggesting getting out of RVS but not doing anything, says mini normals almost always have 3 mafia. (Don’t know about tht)
49. Kuribo says he doesn’t buy it, has seen scum slip up that way too.

Page 2 comments: I’d want to hear more from Erratus at this point, and probably be voting Emp.

50. Kuribo screwed up quote tags
51. Kuribo says that almost always doesn’t make it a fact
52. Erratus asks for a reason why not to assume 3. (This bothers me. Never assume anything.)
53. Dcorbe quotes 51 in response
54. Massive votes Erratus for the 3 thing (don’t like how he doesn’t comment about not having posted content)
55. Erratus says its not a reason, calls Massive opportunistic, says it wasn’t a slipup but intentional assumption. Gets grumpy (his grumpiness bothers me)
56. Vote Count
57. Ceph says it’s a good wagon, votes EA (I *don’t* like the L-2 vote here. Seems opportunistic.) thinks Dcorbe is odd)
58. Dcorbe gets snarky, says that you can’t assume 3 is the case here.
59. Erratus overreacts, says its not a reason, says if hes wrong there are no consequences (not true.) accuses Dcorbe of attempting to make him look scummy (er, wtf?) votes Dcorbe, says 3 is more common despite whatever, no reason to assume otherwise yet, says his wagon is crap. (it was…now this overreaction is making me feel it a little.)

60. Q says his oneliners were intentional to see who jumped, calls Dcorbe out for contridictin himself about taking stuff seriously. Votes Dcorbe. Says he thinks Erratus’s comment was probably meant in jest, nothing wrong with assuming 3 scum, wagon not justified (agreed)
61. Dcorbe says no reason to be serious in RVS but not in RVS now. Wagon needs pressure.
62. Dcorbe says Q’s comment about intentionality was retrofitting
63. Q says no. Says he thought it wasn’t just the randomness Dcorbe was not happy with the seriousness about
64. Dcorbe says if it was random, fine. Asks why Q isn’t attacking anyone else on Erratus’s wagon
65. Q says hes on Dcorbe cause Dcorbe was the first on the wagon. He is also curious about Ceph being on it despite not liking Dcorbe
66. Dcorbe says L-2 is good, gives lots of scum tells, early wagons fall apart anyway, votes Q for “anti-scumhunting” (I really am not liking Dcorbe here…no, I don’t care if I’m replacing him)
67. Q says Dcorbes votes is making an early wagon fall apart, asks why he thinks D1 wagons fall apart. Says early wagons need to be picked on so as not to become bad lynches
68. Dcorbe says wagons fall apart because enough info is taken from them, says Q is responsible for making it fall apart before that happened, says OMGUS is purely baseless, says his vote has justification, confirms vote on Q. (I really don’t like this post)
69. Q says Dcorbe made sure the wagon is falling apart by unvoting, never told him to unvote, just questioned it, says justification not enough

70. Dcorbe says Q ensured it because he had to broadcast his intentions.
71. Q says that Erratus probably could have guessed what was happening
72. Dcorbe says he wasn’t going a good job of it.
73. Cybele says that Q is right about Dcorbe not staying on wagon, says Qs only reason to jump on Dcorbe is to protect scumbuddy (not true. Just good play) doesn’t think Dcorbe has enough invested in bandwagon to be town (I don’t like how early you’re willing to assume this.) thinks 2 better suspects than Erratus, confirm votes Dcorbe. (weak points. Very very weak. Like dental floss)
74. Kuribo says Erratus overreacted.

Page 3 comments: Erratus’s overreaction bothers me. As does Dcorbe’s and Cybele’s craplogic.

75. Kuribo asks how Dcorbe is supposed to know Erratus’s alignment, says that in his past experience, the scum group size thing has worked as tell, says this is combined with the bad attitude/overreaction in his case.
76. Emp unvotes, votes Dcorbe, says he doesn’t like the wagon abandoning, lack of reasons. (I don’t like Emp’s seeming opportunism here in jumping, don’t like how he doesn’t go back and explain previous vote.)
77. Vote count <- this one is screwed up…dRool was replaced…
78. Lowell asks why Kuribo doesn’t put vote where mouth is? (Why doesn’t Lowell ask everyone else about their logic here. I don’t like his one-liners)
79.Ceph says just cause Dcorbe is acting odd doesn’t mean he can’t agree with him on a point.
80. Rofl says number slip is null tell, but reaction and voting are scummy (agreed). Says Ceph and Lowell’s votes seem opportunistic, makes him uneasy about wagon (agreed) says Q seems to be defending Erratus (disagreed. Q is pointing out the wagon is flawed, which it is), votes Erratus
81. Rofl ebwops, unvotes, votes Erratus (this is not necessary in this game)
82. Dcorbe asks Erratus what he has to say being at L-2 (don’t like how he ignores criticism. Bothers me a lot that the person I’m replacing is giving *me* bad vibes at this point.)
83. Kuribo says because 3 pages is not enough for that large a wagon on Erratus yet, says Rofl apparently disagrees
84. Rofl says its not the amount but content of discussion (don’t like this, hasn’t been much content either)

85. Lowell says he doesn’t see quick pace as a bad thing (Lowell is also not posting content. Grrr)
86. Kuribo says Lowell misunderstands him, says aggressive towns are good, but this does not merit a quicklynch
87. Dcorbe says no one is trying to lynch him, “we’re” wagoning to get tells on him, says L-2 is not danger of a lynch and most wagons fall apart anyway. (I don’t like this post. He’s not on thi wagon anymore, already admitted that saying so relieves pressure, and I just really really don’t like Dcorbe right now)
88. Erratus replies with sarcasm, says people wagoning him are overreacting, says if Dcorbe is scum, he would know he’s not, makes snarky comment about how apparently they’re not assuming 3/9 setup, says Kuribo cant be 100% since he hasn’t read every game ever, and if Kuribo was 100% sure he’d vote (this is twisting Kuribo’s words around, I don’t like it), says Kuribo hasn’t been understanding his posts, says Rofls comments are crap, should accuse Dcorbe of starting a wagon too, says Rofl already decided to blame lynch on, Lowell and Ceph (I really don’t like this post at all. His original “slipup” doesn’t bother me much but his reactions do) FOSes Kuribo and Rofl
89. Q says he’ll disagree if he doesn’t like something even if he ends up defending people, if Erratus was scum, then he was wrong (I don’t like how he doesn’t comment on Erratus’s foaming at the mouth here)
90. Kuribo tells Dcorbe to stop it, says he’s saying “if you’re lynched, it was an accident”
91. Kuribo asks where he said he was 100% certain Erratus was scum, tells Erratus to just give him the OMGUS vote instead of an FOS
92. Dcorbe says if he was lynched now and was town, it would be likely scum hammering (no! overeager townies hammer too. Geez.) says L-2 is not dangerous because you need 2 people.
93. Erratus says he doesn’t see where Kuribo expresses uncertainty, says his suspects are the only ones calling him OMGUS, not the people on his wagon. (I don’t like his rudeness here)
94. Kuribo says he mentioned it was a small sample size, so it doesn’t mean he’s certain

95. Ceph says Dcorbe obviously doesn’t understand what breadcrumbing is, said Mass isn’t antiscumhunting, (disagreed) says Dcorbe just takes everything too seriously, his vote on Q is OMGUSy and not founded (agreed), says Rofl is right that the reaction not the tell is more revealing, isn’t so sure anymore, says Erratus’s 100% accusation is silliness, says that it’s a dangerous assumption that only scum would hammer (agreed), looking at Erratus/kuribo interaction
96. Dcorbe says he understands what breadcrumbing is, asks if that is not what Erratus is doing (no) asks what reason a townie would have t hammer him so early (the same reason anyone is on his wagon. Geez. I am so glad I’m replacing him so that I don’t actually have to argue with his crap!logic myself.) says he already explained stance on wagoning
97. Ceph says that you don’t breadcrumb scum (yes, exactly), early hammer suspicious but scum would know this too, can’t really have an universal law about it, says hes not attacking just questioning, that Dcorbe seems more willing to attack because he is being attacked, asks why the vote switch since the wagon is useful, Mass not against scumhunting, just isn’t, but gets this point, doesn’t think Dcorbe is scum (too early to think this on anyone, I think)
98. Rofl says that he never votes anyone outside of RVS that he doesn’t want to see lynched Dcorbe is wrong in that regard
99. Erratus says Kuribo has been saying that he is scum because of the 3 scum thing, says people who say anger=scumtell don’t know how to play mafia, says his reaction only proves that he’s not a jester, (is really rude and volatile. Arguing crap. I don’t like this.)

Page 4 thoughts: I don’t like Dcorbe’s crap logic. I don’t like Erratus’s reactivity, I don’t like Lowell’s lack of participation, I don’t like Emp’s lack of participation.

100. vote count
101. Ceph tells Erratus to stop misinterpreting, says scum can get pissy if they get caught for stupid reasons too
102. Dcorbe basically says Rofls strategy sucks and he needs to be pressure wagoned himself.
103. Lowell says he agrees scum get pissy too (why aren’t you commenting on anything else?)
104. Cyb tells Erratus to actually read Kuribo’s posts, doesn’t understand why Dcorbe jumped so quickly (no other comments either?)
105. Erratus asks to be replaced because he can’t continue without cursing (wtf?)
106. Kuribo rolls eyes
107. Modnote, asked for replacement
108. Emp says he finds replacement reuest hard to believe, but says Dcorbe is high on his scumdar (I don’t like Emps lack of contributing)
109. Kuribo says scum more likely to ask for replacement when backed into corner
110. Ceph says its immature

111. Rofl unvotes, doesn’t know what kind of tell it is, isn’t going to lynch empty slot
112. Dcorbe grudgingly waits for replacement (I don’t like this post)
113. Kuribo is annoyed
114. Coheed shows up again (I forgot he was playing) says he thinks the anger instead of role claiming makes him think Erratus is scum (why no comments on anything else)
115. Rofl says he supports a replacement lynch, but want to be civil and hear from the replacement first
116. Mod still looking
117. Massive says lets lynch him to make life easier for mod (I don’t like Massive.. He’s not playing and then he calls for a lynch)
118. Ceph would like a claim
119. Coheed asks if mod could claim for him or get him back just to claim
120. Lowell says it’s a scum tell, wants a lynch (I don’t like how Lowell isn’t posting very much content)

121. Kuribo somewhat agrees
122. Massive thinks demanding roleclaims before lynch is suspicious, especially from Coheed (wtf? No. this is good. Don’t like Massive’s play)
123. Rofl changes mind (don’t like how sudden this is) agrees with Lowell, votes Erratus
124. Lowell says they need one more

Page 5 comments: still don’t like Dcorbe, Lowell, Emp, or Erratus, also Massive now

125. Dcorbe hammers (? Or is hel-1 now), says because he replaced in a similar situation and hated it (how altruistic)
126. Lowell approves
127. Rofl thinks they might be one short, says there will probably be a hammer
128. Dcorbe wishes he was the hammer
129. Dcorbe agrees with Rofl
130. Dcorbe says he’s L-1 so the replacement can claim
131. Lowell says this is torture, asks for a hammer (still don’t like Lowell’s nonplaying)
132. Rofl says Kuribo and Cyb might hammer
133. Coheed offers to hammer, unvotes (I don’t like how he asks for permission here instead of using his own judgment)
134. Q says he doesn’t need to ask permission, looks like a set up for the ‘you guys told me to” defense (agreed)

135. Rofl says its safe to assume that at least 3 people want the hammer
136. Dcorbe asks for hammer (I love how they’re ignoring Q’s comment ~eyeroll~)
137. Votecount
138. Cyb hammers
139. Dcorbe is happy
140. Mod note: Erratus= dead mafia goon (hmmm not surprising but I don’t like how the wagon developed regardless. Still don’t like Dcorbe, Lowell, Massive, Emp
141. Mod note = Ceph, doctor was modkilled (never would have guessed this)
142. Massive asks why Dcorbe changed his mind so fast
143. Modnote: Ceph replaces DRool (ohhhhh…this explains why I didn’t think Drool was playing…besides the not posting at all)
144. Lowell says Coheeds post was awful but he’s almost certainly town from this (no, I disagree) says Rofl is almost certainly town, votes Emp for not being on the wagon (this is crap logic!)
145. Ceph2 points out Emps comments about Erratus and Dcorbe, votes Emp, asks why Coheed is town. Says Dcorbe probably isn’t because it would be major bussing. (agreed but still don’t like his play)
146. Ceph2 jokes(?) there are probably 2 scum left
147. Q says because mod unlikely to claim for Erratus, and less likely to fake claim, so Coheed wouldn’t have asked.
148. Emp says didn’t vote because he thought Dcorbe was more likely scum, town not giant hive mind, says he now thinks Dcorbe is innocent
149. Ceph2 says he point was Emp defending scum and going after his attacker (this is not really a scum tell and a poor reason for a vote. Emp deserves to be voted for other reasons such as question dodging though.)

Page 6 comments: Dcorbe’s logic still stucks even if he’s sorta cleared, I don’t like Lowell, don’t like Ceph2 (dRool isn’t post at all, wtf?) don’t like Emp, don’t like Massive)

150. Emp says enough though he brought up points he shouldn’t be immune from being a suspect
151. Votecount
152. Dcorbe says he thought over what Lowell said, said it wouldn’t be fair to replacement, says Cyb is waiting for someone else to criticize Dcorbe, says his own reason was legit, says Cyb attacks him by proxy, says Cyb doesn’t post for a while and then starts distancing from Erratus, continues attacking Dcorbe mildly, drops hammer, thinks Erratus wasn’t only scum on Dcorbe wagon (I don’t care what Dcorbe’s alignment is, his play is horrible! So OMGUSy it hurts) says unsure if Q is scum or misguide (why, cause he doesn’t agree with you? Wtf?) votes Cyb
153. Ceph2 says first quote was from him (Ceph1) and that Dcorbe is basing suspicion entirely on interaction with him . (Agreed! Good posting!)
154. Emp asks if he does it its voteworthy but if someone else does it it’s a null?
155. Dcorbe restates his argument sees nothing wrong with it
156.Massive asks if Cyb hammering partner was good play when some people wante a replacement. Why not wait a bit.
157. Dcorbe asks if hes scum it would be a bad idea to ride it out (I think Dcorbe misunderstoof the previous remark here.) asks if Cyb wagon has any merit (not really, no)
158. Dcorbe says he doesn’t like defending, thinks its not scum hunting if people argue with him (WTF?)
159. Mass says if Cyb is scum lettings Erratus hang at L-1 would give him at least a chance of not having him lynched, says he would expect scum to act more like Dcorbe with th pressure/information and the jumping, votes Kuribo for calling out Erratus on the slip but not voting (this is poor, the votes, regardless of Erratus being scum, were rash and stupid.)

160. Ceph2 says Dcorbes first point is invalid since its not from Cyb, lurking is not a scumtell, thinks there are better targets, says Dcorbe didn’t acknowledge his point about targetting
161. Rofl says Q and Emp need to explain themselves for Erratus defense, doesn’t see case against Cyb, votesEmp (ARGH! It was not a defense on Q’s part, it was questioning a crappy illfounded wagon. And I don’t like how Emps other actions are being ignored. I don’t like how Rofl allows himself to be called town, and I don’t like the vote)
162. Q says he attacked Dcorbe for his being too serious and didn’t like the unmerited L-2, ready to answer for his actions, says townies job is to call out everything they disagree with and that’s what he did (I agree) didn’t like how Dcorbe flipped over to Q, seemed like trying to avoid lynching his scum buddy and then jumping on for townie brownies, disagrees with the people targeting Dcorbe are not scumhunting thing, votes Dcorbe (I approve this post! My predecessor’s “play” irks me to no end and I am suspicious of anyone just willing to take it.)
163. Dcorbe says he felt Erratus wagon would fall apart because he made his intentions known, had to vote Q, says hes not demanding anyone be targeted, not arguing case for Cyb. (Actually, he was demanding votes on Cyb. And not following your own wagon through is bad. Grrr. I think Dcorbe has won the Crap!Logic award for this game)
164. Q says he thinks Dcorbe was bussing his buddy, Q’s assault was not relentless, tells Dcorbe hes supposed to argue his case.
165. Dcorbe continues to blame other people for his own crap!logic. Says he can’t argue because other people ruined his case, waiting for more scum tells, blah, blah, blah, “I am infalliable” blah (argh…this is why I promised myself I wouldn’t be replacing after 606…hard to keep the snark in my pants when I get to read this nonsense “logic” in one large dose.), says he wanted Cybs response, is still voting him.
166. Dcorbe accuses Q of twisting his words around and setting up strawmen, asks what he thinks of Rofl’s word choice (this is such bull! Q is one of the few players making any sense in this game!)
167. Kuribo calls Mass’s case lame, says he was the one calling him out, and kept up pressure. (Agreed. I give Kuribo much credit for not jumping on a senseless wagon. Desn’t
168. Q asks Dcorbe to point out where he twisted his words, says he thinks Rofl means he was attacking Dcorbe to get attention off Erratus, says he never said anything about Cyb.
169. Ceph2 says Q wins argument, Dcorbe flailing

170. Kuribo says Q is making excuses, went after Dcorbe hardcore (disagree)
171. Q says he wasn’t defending slip, just pointing out that it wasn’t a sure scumtell, originally went after Dcorbe for seriousness
172. Q tells Ceph that he’s dead, to stop posting
173. Kuribo points out Ceph replaced back in.
174. Q is confused (this seems a bit disingenuous)

Page 7 comments: Dcorbe is the king of crap logic, I don’t like the wagon on Emp even though I am not a fan of Emp’s play. It seems too oppurtunstic and weak especially after everyone ignored Emp yesterday.

175. Kuribo asks if Q was disappointed he came back after he NKed him. (joke?)
176. Q says maybe, or maybe he just misread
177. Says Q impressed him more than Emp (whats that supposed to mean), not ruling out Dcorbe bussing theory, still voting Emp. Thinks Coheed is town for being to naïve.
178. Kuribo says explanation is fair for Q
179. Massive asks Kuribo to show where he kept up pressure, because he wasn’t comfortable with wagon
180.Votecount
181. Emp says town isn’t hivemind, that he thought for himself, thinks jumping ship is worse (didn’t he do this too?) torn between Dcorbe and Kuribo, votes Kuribo (I don’t like this vote. I think Kuribo doesn’t merit any votes)
182. Coheed says he’ll reread
183. Kuribo points out where he kept up pressure, calls Emp opportunistic (agreed)
184. Kuribo says he said quicklynch was not in order, stands by lack of vote.

185. Massive says wondering why Kuribo never voted, in 20/20 hindsight bears investigation
186. Kuribo says he explained it already, thinks people who said the three scum thing wasn’t a scum tell need to be looked at (not really, disagree here), says if he was scum, he wouldn’t be pushing about it this hard.
187. Emp says it wasn’t a tell, they got lucky (this is true)
188. Kuribo votes Emp for previous post (bah, don’t really like this.)
189. Votecount
190. Rofl says he likes his Emp vote, says he likes Q’s comments, but finds it hard to believe Dcorbe was bussing, still cant discount defense from Q
191. Massive said no sign of quickylynch when Kuribo pointed tell out, and Dcorbe pointed it out first
192. Kuribo says Dcorbe gave no indication that that is why he was voting
193. Cyb says part of the post has nothing to do with him, was on Dcorbes first wagon by coincidence random vote, used Q’s reasoning (its not random if you reason), says no different opinion, just pointing out his own points, says hes not lurking
194. Cyb points out Coheeds inactivity asks why no one attacks him by the same reasons ( I don’t like the deflection in this)

195. Cyb says sees no reason for a Kuribo vote, votes Emp for pushing argument without a point (I don’t like this, this looks opportunistic)
196. Q says this is L-1 time (another stupid wagon)
197. Cyb doesn’t want an accidental lynch, unvotes (I don’t like this…how sure of him were you to place the vote in the first place, looks like he might be scared of looking bad.)
198. Coheed likes the Emp wagon, thinks points against him valid and reasonable (wtf? No comments on anything else at all? Not even playing just offering to hammer a subpaar wagon. Grrr)
199. Emp says hasn’t been disproven that Kuribo strongly believed Erratus was scum but didn’t work for him, says points aren’t valid and reasonable, points based on dead doc (how is this relevant) claims cop, says he investigated Dcorbe got an innocent (hmmm…well…I know the result is right, not so sure I trust Emp though…lets see if there are counterclaims)

Page 8 comments: I don’t like Coheed’s opportunism and not playing the most right now, not a fan of Lowell either.

200. Votecount
201. Kuribo says he didn’t try to disprove it yet, didn’t vote and said why, not going to back down, doesn’t believe cop claim but unvotes anyway
202. Kuribo quotes Emps criticism of Dcorbe, says it kind of backs up cop claim, nothing to claim on reread to back up Dcorbe as innocent (could still be scum though…)
203. Emp says he doesn’t care if kuribo tried to disprove it only that his side said he did (…er what is this in English?)
204. Kuribo says he never said he votes, only that he pressured him
205. Ceph2 unvotes
206. Emp says it’s the “get Emp to claim despite dead doc” side that said it was disproven (errr…what is this nonsense supposed to mean in English?)
207. Kuribo says it makes no sense (agreed)
208. Kuribo says the doc didn’t *decide* to get himself killed
209. Emp says hes making them because Kuribos side is lying to gt him lynched (what side? Still makes no sense)

210. Kuribo says if hes really the cop, theyre on the same side (don’t like this bit) not only person voting for him, not everyone on wagon could be scum (agreed)
211. Emp says its about getting him to claim despite dead doc, says he doesn’t want them to get away with lies (this is crap!logic! how does a dead doc mean you shouldn’t claim?!)
212. Kuribo says no real case against him, just OMGUS and the think with Erratus
213. Emp asks which is better, the own views of the lynched too quick to see bonds
214. Kuribo asks if English is his first language
215. Kuribo asks when he ever attacked someone for not quicklynching.
216. Emp says he loses grasp of language when typing, says he feels it wasn’t enough time (not making sense)
217. Kuribo says its never enough time, people should never be quicklynched following RVS
218. Emp meant enough time.
219. Kuribo asks if Emp thinks he should have been quicklynched.

220. Q unvotes because Emps claim says Dcorbe is innocent, but his posts make no sense (don’t like how easily he gives up the vote)
221. Ceph2 says even the scum could not have known what he’d claim, so the doc point is invalid. Make little sense.
222. Emp asks why scum would know what he’d claim (then why are you making the doctor comments?)
223. Kuribo says they wouldn’t which is why the claim comments don’t make sense because no one could have known, and not everyone on his bandwagon could be scum
224. Emp says he never said everyone who wanted him to claim was scum, quotes people asking him to claim

Page 9: Emp makes absolutely no sense. At all. Not sure if I believe him yet.

225. Kuribo says quotes have nothing to do with him, and not everyone who liked wagon could be scum
226. Emp asks when he said everyone on wagon was scum.
227. Kuribo points out quotes, says Emp makes no sense
228. Emp asks when he said everyone on wagon was scum.
229. Ceph2 quotes Kuribo post
230. Emp asks when he said everyone on wagon was scum. (…ARGH…they just pointed it out. Twice.) says he thinks theyre too smart to believe there cant be a split opinion between town
231. Kuribo says that they just told him
232. Coheed says Emp is making no sense and repeating self and its fishy, says scum wouldn’t know what hed claim only that hed claim some townie role, says most likely one scum on wagon. (Which wagon? Is this an admission you’re scum, Coheed?)
233. Emp says because they wont answer and shoe random points, asks where he said scum would know (…wtf?)
234. Kuribo says theyre not random quotes, exactly what he asked for

235. Ceph2 says quotes answer question, says that he repeatedly asserted scum were trying to get a claim. (as I’m typing this the neighbors baby that just wont stop crying is helping along the headache which this discussion is giving me)
236. Emp says town takes sides in disagreement, not always on opposite side with scum, says 2 sides, one wanted him to claim, and him. Says theyre just writing nonsense (…headdesk.)
237. Kuribo expresses how I feel right now.
238. Kuribo says that’s what they’ve been trying to tell him, and that no one could hav predicted his claim and that his bandwagon started because he was acting scummy.
239. Emp asks when he said everyone on wagon was scum or scum knew his role. (…I think I want to go commit ritual suicide because I didn’t think it was possible for anyone to be this dense. My faith in humanity has died)
240. Q says he never really attacked Emp, but that he was commenting on the fact that people usually claim at L-1
241. Kuribo says exactly where they quoted him
242. Emp says the quote was there to show that they still wanted him to claim
243. Kuribo explains that at L-1 its common to ask for a claim, and that unless a pwerrole is claimed a lynch probably happens
244. Emp says they only quotes that people wanted him to claim, says claiming isn’t useful after doc is dead. (WTF? Of course it’s useful…I give up…)
245. Kuribo asks Emp to just stop since he’s just being distracting

246. Emp agrees to stop.
247. Rofl votes Q (no explanation. I don’t like this vote)
248. Coheed asks for reasoning.
249. Rofl says he already posted that he thinks Q was a lynch equal to Emp (this is very poor logic, especially since in that post he conceded Q had points and Q wasn’t ready to be lynched yet. I don’t like how he’s already ready for a lynch either.)

Page 10 comments: Don’t like Rofl. Emp made my brain commit hari kari.

250. Coheed says he’ll have to go back and reread (still not liking the lack of content from Coheed.)
251. Coheed says all he sees is the thing about the defense, then Rofl sayin Q looked better, then the defense thing again. (that’s because that’s all there is)
252. Rofl says so Q was second on his list, so he switched.
253. Kuribo says he has a bad feeling about Q, will look him over (I disagree)
254. Lowell unvotes, doesn’t seem to happy about it.
255. Cyb says Emp is confusing, says he hasn’t been counterclaimed and that Dcorbe is innocent, so Q is the next best to look at (this is pure opportunism! And would totally merit a vote from me here)
256. Rofl says he wants people to agree with him (this bothers me. People need to think for themselves)
257. Kuribo votes Q. (This is a crap vote.)
258. Q asks for reasons to defend against.
259. Lowell says hed like to hear more about the case (so you can jump on?)

260. Massive says hes happy with his Kuribo vote (another person not contributing)
261.Modpost
262. Emp says also happy with Kuribo vote (why? Do you actually have a reason) wants reasons against Q
263. Rofl says the case against Q is that he attacked Dcorbe, who is now a copconfirmed innocent. (Argh. This is the most stupid wagon EVER. The amount of craplogic I’ve read in this game is making me seriously regret replacing in)
264. Coheed says he understands Rofl’s theory better, votes Q (WTF? Here is where I would be voting Coheed. First you say its crap then you go along? WTF? Oppurtunism)
265. Votecount
266. Ceph2 says Q was mostly right, but if he understands correctly, his points don’t matter so much as the defense, says it doesn’t make much sense but looks better than the Kuribo wagon. (Argh…why not attack anyone who is actually being scummy) Asks Massive to comment on Emp
267. Massive says he didn’t think Emp wagon had much validity, much more interested in Dcorbe, says he doesn’t see Emp wagon as meritful, thinks Kuribo is scummy and Dcorbe is scummier than Q (agreed on the last point.
268. Q said he already explained attack on Dcorbe. Doesn’t see how Dcorbe is a copconfirmed innocent is a point against him, says townies could argue too, and that Dcorbe could possibly still be scum. (Thank you, Q, for being the only one making any sense here)
269. Lowell says the defense was weak, votes Q. (OMGWTFARGH! Scummy vote! Scummy vote! Scummy vote!)

270. Q asks what was weak about it.
271. Lowell says because hes trying to still justify Dcorbe vote (cause y’all are to dense to realize that IT IS NOT A CASE!) says that his attack on Dcorbe is not justified and his not backing down is because he thinks it makes him look innocent. (No, it’s because he’s right. I’m really really regretting joining this game.)
272. Q says he unvoted and isn’t going to vote him any time soon, still doesn’t see how cop claiming Dcorbe innocent is a point against him.
273. Kuribo says Massive ignored other reasons for Emp being scummy (well the rest of you certainly did) asks if Massive thinks Dcorbe is scum if Emp is lying.
274. Ceph2 says Q wagon is lame (agreed)

Page 11 comments: Coheed, Lowell, and Rofl are battling it out for scummiest player. The “case” is the most pathetic thing I have ever heard.

275. Massive says he doesn’t necessarily think Dcorbe is scum, just scummier than Q, says his post before explained why he thought Dcorbe was scummy and eventually decided he wasn’t scum.
276. Kuribo says the main reason he doesn’t think Dcorbe is scum because the uncounterclaimed cop says so.
277. Rofl says neither Emp nor Dcorbe are lynch choices today. Accuses Ceph2 of attempting to undermine a wagon without evidence (BECAUSE YOUR WAGON HAS NO EVIDENCE!)
278. Ceph2 quotes a previous post
279. Massive says he thinks Emp is innocent, subtly accuses Kuribo of twisting words around.
280. Rofl says he understands that Ceph2 is saying it looks better than a Kuribo wagon but that he isn’t even providing an alternative to either, calls Ceph2 scum for either not wanting to lynch his scumbuddy or know that its going to be a town lynch and want brownie points from it (another crap!argument from Rofl)
281. Kuribo says that that’s what it sounds like, cop sanity isn’t really and issue in minis
282. Q says Rofl is accusing Ceph2 regardless of whether Q is innocent or guilty, asks if its possible for Ceph2 to just be town
283. Ceph2 says the Q wagon doesn’t really make sense, says Q is buddying up
284. Q says he isn’t, just doesn’t like how Rofl leaves the town possibility out

285. Q asks Rofl if his attack on Dcorbe was irrational, uncalled for, or invalid
286. Rofl says it was not irrational or invalid but might have been uncalled for (WTF?) because Erratus was obvious (so? This doesn’t excuse Dcorbe) says that something doesn’t have to be irrational or invalid to be scummy (wait, so you’re voting him for having a valid point? WTF?) says he came out of exchange looking smarter but more scummy (Crap!logic! He’s scummy because he’s smart?) because of who he was attacking/defending (Hindsight is 20/20.) Says Ceph2 is just sitting on the sidelines doing nothing like scum. (Agreed that Ceph2 needs to do more. Most of the town needs to do more)
287. Emp says he doesn’t think Rofl is scum from last post (I disagree) but doesn’t want a Q lynch
288. Q says case comes down to WIFOM.
289. Ceph2 says he was defending Q, last past was a joke, doesn’t want to vote for Kuribo or Q doesn’t know who he wants to vote for, is going to reread.
290. Coheed asks who Ceph2 is looking into. (Coheed doesn’t have his own opinion)
291. Ceph2 is going to read both Massive and Coheed.
292. Rofl asks who Emp wants to lynch, day isn’t going anywhere with people disagreeing with wagon (disagree. You could, I don’t know, ACTUALLY DISCUSS SOMETHING), intrigued by Ceph2s reread candidates.
293. Emp says he wants Kuribo lynch and that all they have on Q was his attack on Dcorbe
294. Kuribo asks what the case on him is. (there really isn’t one)
295. Kuribo says if Erratus and he were scum buddies why would he point out a slip, continue to pressure him, and argue with him, says case on him is stupid, bussing partner that much that early would be even stupider

296. Emp says he didn’t think Kuribo expected it would lead to a lynch.
297. Kuribo says its like talking to a brick wall, he expected a lynch, that was the whole point of the case.
298. Emp says it isn’t. (I hope I’m never in a game with you again either)
299. Kuribo asks what other point is there in building a case beside a lynch

Page 12 thoughts: see page 11 thoughts.

300. Emp says when you’re scum it could be used to distance, reaction test, etc. (This is actually a mostly good post. EXCEPT YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE SCUM TO DO THESE THINGS)
301. Kuribo asks how getting him lynched early helps scum, why call attention t him, no need to distance if there is no pressure, thinks bussing is a stupid meta
302. Votecount
303. Kuribo points out mistake in count
304. Emp says if catching scu would make you immune from lynch, theyd all do it, gives Dcorbe credit for pressuring, noticing scumtells. (No Dcorbe was just foaming at the mouth)
305. Kuribo said no he wasn’t, he tried to make it look like he was.
306. Kuribo says that scum don’t breadcrumb, says Dcorbes comment was nonsense
307. Emp asks if Kuribo thinks Dcorbe is scum or town just making something up (this is a stupid question)
308. Kuribo says that’s a dumb question, he cleared him, just thinks Dcorbe was wrong
309. Q says it’s a strange comment from a claimed cop with an innocent, asks for a prod on Dcorbe

310. Rofl says he doesn’t think Kuribo was bussing, doesn’t like Kuribo wagon, sticking with Q unless strong alternative comes up (Q shouldn’t even be an alternative)
311. Lowell says hes growing suspicious of Ceph2 and Kuribo, Ceph2 because Rofl said so and Kuribo for “empty posts” (WTF? Look in the mirror)
312. Kuribo says its not nothing, pointing out stupidity of bussing case
313. Lowell considers that a point to Kuribos credit but wont assume opposite of what he sees (which is what? You’re not actually participating)
314. Emp is committed to Kuribo lynch (argh)
315. Kuribo says Emp hasn’t even given a reason though
316. Emp asks about the activity in this game
317. Q asks Emp for reasons for Kuribo lynch
318. Coheed says cant be 100% sure of scum. (this post sucks and does not contribute to game)
319. Modnote

320. Emp says something that doesn’t make sense.
321. Emp finds fact that Kuribo thinks Dcorbe was incorrect too absurd. (OMG! My brain just melted from the utter stupidity of this statement.)
322. Coheed asks if Emp investigated Kuribo and got a guilty (ummm, hello, he claimed he got an innocent on Dcorbe)
323. Emp said no it was a joke
324. Coheed says hes confused.

Page 13 comments: A message from my brain: OW
325. Kuribo says that’s a stupid reason, says Emp gave him two reasons, says there are other reasons, says Emp is scummiest player here but hes lucky hes an uncounterclaimed cop. Says Emp makes no sense and has no good reasons.
326. Emp points out that Kuribo makes plans for a future lynch on him if he survives. (I can’t fault Kuribo here.)
327. Kuribo says hes not making plans, but if hes not the cop he must be lynched, says other explanations for Dcorbe being wrong
328. Rofl says Kuribo lynch would be dumb
329. Emp accuses Kuribo of lying
330. Kuribo asks where he’s lying
331. Kuribo says you cant say someone is lying without saying what theyre lyin about or why theyre suspect in the first place
332. Massive asks why Kuribo should get points when it was Dcorbe (it wasn’t! Argh) and when Kuribo didn’t even vote Erratus (because it was a STUPID PREMATURE LYNCH!) Asks for clarification on why to keep an eye on him
333. Emp quotes Kuribo, doesn’t make sense yet again.
334. Kuribo points out Dcorbe didn’t actually find blunder, amends reason for keeping an eye on massive a little.

335. Kuribo says its not a lie. If he’s lying about being a cop he should be lynched
336. Emp makes up nonsense somemore (after I’m done with this PBP I’m just going to ignore every single post Emp makes from this point on. I don’t care.)
337. Kuribo says if hes the cop he wont survive the night, therefore if he does he must be lynched, votes self to get out of game, claiming scum. (Argh, I can feel your pain, Kuribo, anfd I don’t fault you for self voting. If there was some way to ensure a scorched earth scenario, I would be so on top of that right now. The only people who deserve to win here are you and Q)
338. Emp asks about lynching Dcorbe before seeing what he turned up as. More nonsense
339. Kuribo says you cant make stuff up as you go along, claims mafia goon.
340. Rofl says he feels stupid, votes Kuribo (I don’t like this vote)
341. Emp says he did say that.
342. Ceph2 says if Kuribo I really mafia and Emp is a cop, he’ll cry. Says he doesn’t believe Kuribo’s claim (I don’t either. Kuribo is so town it hurts. For the record, so is Q.)
343. Q votes Kuribo for claiming scum (goddamnit, Q, you should know better)
344. Massive says its because of the nonvote thing. (I give up)
345. Votecount
346. Rofl asks if Dcorbe has been prodded
347. Mod says yes
348. Q wants Kuribo lynch
349. Modnote.

Page 14 notes: You all deserve to lose.

350. Kuribo says he bets Emp feels clever, will feel less clever in twilight
351. Vote Count
352. Lowell hammers Kuribo
353. Coheed doesn’t believe Kuribos claim, says he looked more frustrated townie, will see with lynch (I don’t like this post. Contradicts itself)
354. Kuribo bah post
355. Ceph2 doesn’t like hammer
356. Ceph2 doesn’t like Lowell’s premature hammer
357. Lowell says Kuribo is scum, tells Ceph to stop whining
358. Modnote: kuribo townie is lynched.

Overall comments: You all deserve to lose. Except Kuribo. And maybe Q. Also maybe Ceph2 (The 2 is to distinguish you from your “self” before you replaced)

[Mirth]

Now then, having read this game, I don't think any of you besides Q will actually read the above post. Also, sadly I think the mod just confirmed Emp as the cop in thread by admitting to have forgotten something. No one that illogical deserves to be the cop (also, WTF? Ceph2 was one of the 3 obvious townies.)

The condensed form for those not wanting to read my PBPA: I agree with Kuribo. You all deserve to lose.

Vote Lowell

for being opportunistic, not contributing constructively, and being the scummiest person here.

FOS: Rofl, Cyb

for the same reasons.

[Empking]

Vote: Mirth

for seriously moaning about a random vote's poor logic. (I'm too much ant-swear to actually write the actual phrase.)

[Mirth]

Vote: Mirth

for seriously moaning about a random vote's poor logic. (I'm too much ant-swear to actually write the actual phrase.)

Soooo you're going to vote me even though you got an innocent result on my predecessor and by extension me? Let me repeat that in words you might understand: YOU ARE VOTING SOMEONE YOU CONFIRMED AS INNOCENT BY YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION.

Wow. This really is the dumbest town ever.

[Empking]

I forgot you Dcorbe (I hate replacements)

Unvote

[Mirth]

For the record it's not a random vote once you attempt to justify it with any logic. Also you skimmed the first part of my PBPA and think that a couple sentences in is enough to decide "OMG she's scum because she's using her brain!" You can't know my opinions just from the first few comments I make.

[Empking]

Hey what happenned to ignoring my posts?

Most people "justify" their random votes.

[Cephrir]

Oh, come on,

again

?

Go town.

[Mirth]

What happened to ignoring your posts? You pushing the stupidity meter up another few notches by voting me. Didn't think that was possible. A vote is not random once you accuse someone of lying.

[CoheedCambria09]

well, Mirth, I did actually read your post, and I applaud you on going through the game and making your pbpa with some little comments in between. But eventually you just kept saying that we all deserve to lose AND throughout you didnt like the player your replacing. If it were not for the cop saying your a townie(or town power role) I would vote you because you yourself said dcorbe was scummy.

[Mirth]

Dcorbe *was* scummy. His entire logical repertoire consisted of: "this person doesnt agree with me, therefor they must be wrong." You would be willing to vote me for saying my predecessor's play sucked? Even though I theoretically want to stay alive and have no reason to point out how much his play sucked, since most of you are too blind to see it yourselves and suspect him of your own accord? What benefit do I get from that exactly?

Also, if you actually read the whole thing, how do you respond to my accusations of scumminess against you what with the not posting content and going along whatever the rest of this heard of lemmings has to say? Do you have any comments on my remarks about Lowell? Or Rofl? Or Cyb? Or Q? Or anything at all for that matter? You tend to post without saying anything and you're still doing it.