Mini 624 - Game Over!

[Dark wingstalker]

Check it, someone else voted Wumbo in that time, i noticed we were still at L-1 still. When Geraintm unvoted, Litral voted wumbo to bring it back up to L-1.

Frankly, I posted my Vote, Logged in, Posted my "Whats l-1 mean" and then i unvoted. The only thing i'm really guilty of here is a total and utter lack of common sense.

[Dark wingstalker]

In fact, After some thought, if Litral was FULLY aware of what L-1 is, and it had just been explained to me, then maybe its him we should be putting some pressure on.

Two posts after Geraintm unvotes:

But for now,

vote: Wumbo

by this principle: anyone vanilla townie who has claimed is completely useless to the town, and should be lynched, unless there is a far better candidate. If you disagree with/don't understand my application of this logic, say so, and I'll try to explain in my next more thorough post.

So, He basically brings it back to L-1, and then tells us that even if wumbo is a townie, he should be lynched anyway, because hes useless. I think you guys should take a closer look at litral then me, as it looks like he brought the voting to a boil using my mistake as a smokescreen.

[StrangerCoug]

Um, hello, Dark wingstalker? Did you read my post #126? Litral did not put Wumbo back at L-1. His vote put him at only an L-3.

[imaginality]

Dark wingstalker,

both

nhat (post 111)

and

geraintm (post 119) had unvoted Wumbo by then. Taking Wumbo down to L-3. Then Litral voted Wumbo (post 121) taking him back to L-2.

Not

to L-1. See my timeline in post 133.

[Dark wingstalker]

oh.

My fucking god, I'm an idiot. I'm going to go and re-read the entire thread. Right now.

[StrangerCoug]

Dark wingstalker,

both

nhat (post 111)

and

geraintm (post 119) had unvoted Wumbo by then. Taking Wumbo down to L-3. Then Litral voted Wumbo (post 121) taking him back to L-2.

Not

to L-1. See my timeline in post 133.

Well, that too.

[Dark wingstalker]

Okay, All up to date with the thread now. I apolagise for being a dumbass, making mistakes everywhere. I have no real reason, i'm just not paying enough attention i guess.

I also sincerly promise to think before i post, And i withdraw my attack on Litral, as it was misguided. Reading the thread, even i admit the scummiest person here is me.

[imaginality]

While you're rereading, let's look at:

Frankly, I posted my Vote, Logged in, Posted my "Whats l-1 mean" and then i unvoted. The only thing i'm really guilty of here is a total and utter lack of common sense.

Frankly, I posted my Vote (post 97),
Logged in, Posted my "Whats l-1 mean (post 114)
and then i unvoted. (post 124)

Oh, but wait... you somehow forgot to mention your post 110...

So it should read:

Frankly, I posted my Vote (post 97),
Challenged Wumbo about his responses while not feeling worried enough by his multiple references to being at L-1, next vote being the hammer vote, etc. to unvote or even comment on that (post 110)
Logged in, Posted my "Whats l-1 mean (post 114)
and then i unvoted. (post 124)
The only thing i'm really guilty of here is a total and utter lack of common sense. (well, yep, this may be true ...but a lack of common sense is a null-tell... )

[maxwellhouse]

i have a question dark wingstalker. i'm not completely sure if you addressed this already, but

d like to believe you wumbo, really i would. But your posts are getting less and less cohesive.

to me, it sounds something like "I dont care if i die, BUT I DONT WANT TO, PLEASE DONT KILL ME".

and if you are a vanilla townie, why claim it so damn early?

This is basically what happened, However, I was unawares what constituted "Claim or die", as where I usually play, on another forums, Claim or dies are being thrown around from about 3 to lynch. and when I was informed what L-1 was, it all clicked into place, and I unvoted.

wait, what? so you had no idea what "claim or die" meant, yet you accused wumbo of claiming so early? what?! that makes no sense. (i can't find the "claim or die" comment... i swear to god it was there before. where'd it go? =o )

but anyway, so you obviously do know what it means. even if you don't know the significance of the comment, you told him to claim...?

[StrangerCoug]

Okay, All up to date with the thread now. I apolagise for being a dumbass, making mistakes everywhere. I have no real reason, i'm just not paying enough attention i guess.

I will tell you from experience that paying attention decreases your odds of getting lynched. This is something I can't really discuss a lot, though.

I also sincerly promise to think before i post, And i withdraw my attack on Litral, as it was misguided. Reading the thread, even i admit the scummiest person here is me.

Be careful commenting about your own scumminess.

[StrangerCoug]

This is basically what happened, However, I was unawares what constituted "Claim or die", as where I usually play, on another forums, Claim or dies are being thrown around from about 3 to lynch. and when I was informed what L-1 was, it all clicked into place, and I unvoted.

wait, what? so you had no idea what "claim or die" meant, yet you accused wumbo of claiming so early? what?! that makes no sense. (i can't find the "claim or die" comment... i swear to god it was there before. where'd it go? =o )

I made the claim or die comment the post after Dark wingstalker put Wumbo at L-1. I also remember accusing Wumbo of claiming that early myself.

[Dark wingstalker]

House, i know what claim or die means, Just that, people tend to throw it around real early. However, Wumbo claimed before "Claim or die" was uttered, he pretty much tossed it out the second someone voted on him, which i thought was remarkably early, and from general experience, a terrible idea, as if he is indeed vanilla, he is narrowing the mafia's possible targets for a powerrole.

[imaginality]

Two stray thoughts:

I notice that Wumbo clammed up again as soon as the pressure was off him.

I think post 143 from Kenfucius contains several good points, and I'll be interested to hear whether or not his position vis a vis Dark wingstalker has changed following the recent posts or not.

[maxwellhouse]

I made the claim or die comment the post after Dark wingstalker put Wumbo at L-1. I also remember accusing Wumbo of claiming that early myself.

oh sorry my bad.

gah i think i should probably re-read this whole thread too xD

[Wumbo]

Hooboy. A lot has happened.

My position on Dark remains the same. I did take into account the fact that he could have just misread a few things and miscalculated.

I do find it REALLY annoying that imaginality keeps harping me on posting.

I'm not dissappearing or anything. But I have a life outside of MS. :/

[Wumbo]

EBWODP: Also, my stance on claiming early remains the same... take that for what you will. I did it cause I felt like it. Whether or not I outed a power role or am a power role myself, I found it necessary to do so. So take that for what you will once again.

[imaginality]

I do find it REALLY annoying that imaginality keeps harping me on posting.

Harping on? Hardly. I thought it worth mentioning because posting actively only when being put under pressure is a behaviour scum sometimes exhibit. It's only been a few days, as you rightly point out, which is why I just mentioned it as an aside rather than make a bigger issue out of it. There's no need to react so strongly to it.

Also, my stance on claiming early remains the same... take that for what you will. I did it cause I felt like it. Whether or not I outed a power role or am a power role myself, I found it necessary to do so. So take that for what you will once again.

How does "I did it cause I felt like it" fit with "I found it necessary to do so"? Those two statements seem to be in contradiction. Did you claim early simply because you wanted to, or because you felt it was necessary to?

[Wumbo]

The two are not always mutually exclusive, imaginality.

As before I stand by my point that I claimed early cause I figured I'd need to anyway (earlier post, #106) and also because I found claiming it with a Journey lyric to be particularly amusing.

[geraintm]

i didnt post yesterday as there was nothing ot say, i come in this mornign to find a page worth of posts, and it is mostly junk cause Dark keeps getting confused. appreciate he is trying though, i get the impression of enthusastic newbie from him.
godot is playing to much under the radar, some others are too.

[StrangerCoug]

Mod: Please prod Inspector Godot.

[Hypatia]

VOTE COUNT

dark wingstalker

Wumbo
imaginality
nhat
StrangerCoug

wumbo

Tom

Litral

chenhsi

chenhsi

Litral

With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

chenhsi and inspector godot have been prodded.

[Dark wingstalker]

Gonna be away this weekend till sunday.

Sorry for any inconveinience.

[chenhsi]

Yay... I've been prodded...

Why am I voting for someone?

unvote

[nhat]

Is it just me, or is anyone else not buying into Dark wingstalker's oafish antics? He's done jack for town with his meat-headed bumbling, cluttering up the thread with straight garbage. He should have zero excuse for not knowing the vote count, seeing that he has a finished game on this site, so claiming noob is utterly ludicrous. Plus you say that you have experience on other sites, too? You honestly should know better, and nobody wants to hold your hand through this, even though you have cats spoon-feeding you your slip-ups. Get on the ball, man.

[StrangerCoug]

Is it just me, or is anyone else not buying into Dark wingstalker's oafish antics? He's done jack for town with his meat-headed bumbling, cluttering up the thread with straight garbage. He should have zero excuse for not knowing the vote count, seeing that he has a finished game on this site, so claiming noob is utterly ludicrous. Plus you say that you have experience on other sites, too? You honestly should know better, and nobody wants to hold your hand through this, even though you have cats spoon-feeding you your slip-ups. Get on the ball, man.

Ouch. Burn!

I could already say from his posts that he was most likely scummy, but now I think my suspicions are as good as confirmed. I think we've hit the jackpot, ladies and gentlemen.