Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!

[MafiaSSK]

Nope. I'm trying not to use the same strategy. I also haven't really found anything worth quesitoning about.

I don't care whether you're using the same strategy or not. You're still active lurking and being blatantly anti-town about it. There has been plenty going on to give at least a few comments or questions. Start contributing or die.

Why do you want to lynch a lurker so badly? Surely you have opions on whom you could think are scum and usually scum are better to lynch than lurkers.

[Macavenger]

Why do you want to lynch a lurker so badly? Surely you have opions on whom you could think are scum and usually scum are better to lynch than lurkers.

You're presenting two false assertions here. One is that lurkers aren't scum. They don't have to be, but lurking is an anti-town action, and should be punished accordingly. The other is that I'm playing lynch the lurker, which I'm not. If I were, I'd be going after Jex also. You've gone well beyond simple lurking.

My usual first step in dealing with lurkers is to try to get them to post more content. If they do, you judge alignment based on content. If not, you use threat of lynch to get them to do so, and lynch them if they still don't.

I demanded content from you some time ago, and you've completely refused to provide. As such, I'm going to push a lynch until you actually do so.

What few posts you have are poor beyond lurking. Suggesting that we try lynching the mod Day 1 because town doesn't usually hit scum Day 1 anyway is like advocating a no lynch, only worse because we'd actually be losing a player of some sort, with at best a random lynch's chance of hitting scum, from what we knew.

You've also supported a name claim, which is mildly scummy in my opinion, and implied Battousai was scummy for doing setup discussion when you haven't contributed anything above that level yourself.

So SSK, why should we be lynching someone instead of you?

[Tarhalindur]

"Escape, come back, wipe this place off the face of the Earth, obliterate it, and you with it."

The Mod would like to sincerely thank Cavebear with a toothache and remussaidow for posting that they are V/LA and hereby acknowledges that status.

In other news, Grimmy replaces Musher333, effective upon his first post in the thread. Please welcome him to the game, and please follow the Mod's example and thank him for replacing in!

The Twenty-Fourth Vote Count (aka the "Hey, Aren't Some of These Vote Count Names References Too?" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (1)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3) - Cavebear with a toothache
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): MafiaSSK, Grimmy (rep. Musher333), Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2, remussaidow

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Battousai
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (2) - Battousai, Nocmen
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 18, 2008

Next Mod Deadline Review:

July 11, 2008

[remussaidow]

end v/la. would like to note that it will begin again for three days starting on one week from monday

[MafiaSSK]

Why do you want to lynch a lurker so badly? Surely you have opions on whom you could think are scum and usually scum are better to lynch than lurkers.

You're presenting two false assertions here. One is that lurkers aren't scum. They don't have to be, but lurking is an anti-town action, and should be punished accordingly. The other is that I'm playing lynch the lurker, which I'm not. If I were, I'd be going after Jex also. You've gone well beyond simple lurking.

My usual first step in dealing with lurkers is to try to get them to post more content. If they do, you judge alignment based on content. If not, you use threat of lynch to get them to do so, and lynch them if they still don't.

I demanded content from you some time ago, and you've completely refused to provide. As such, I'm going to push a lynch until you actually do so.

What few posts you have are poor beyond lurking. Suggesting that we try lynching the mod Day 1 because town doesn't usually hit scum Day 1 anyway is like advocating a no lynch, only worse because we'd actually be losing a player of some sort, with at best a random lynch's chance of hitting scum, from what we knew.

You've also supported a name claim, which is mildly scummy in my opinion, and implied Battousai was scummy for doing setup discussion when you haven't contributed anything above that level yourself.

So SSK, why should we be lynching someone instead of you?

If I roleclaimed you'd understand a lot why you shouldn't lynch me.

Also, if you had asked questions about such content or some content provided questions I usually answer them.

[Macavenger]

Softclaiming is bad.

I still see no reason why you should be alive.

[Jex]

Sorry for the lurking. I keep forgetting about mafia and forgetting to check.

I don't like mafiassk's softclaim of "you wouldn't want to kill me if you knew who I was". I think that defense is ultra lame and highly unneeded this early in the game.

As for who I think is suspicious, I really don't know at this point. Over the weekend I want to reread through the game and see what I find now that we've sorted through some of the game logistics and such.

[Grimmy]

"and now im back....from outer space..."

Hello all.
Im Grimmy and im a MafiaHolic

Hi Grimmy

it will take me a little bit to catch up, so until then I will be singing to myself (and humming out loud so you can sign along) the song at the end of Meet The Spartans..."I Will Survive"

Grimmy
"im going to go Hercules on your @$$!!!!"

[Battousai]

You just roleclaimed MafiaSSK, and are now a target of the scum if you yourself are not scum. You could have EASILY avoided it by posting content or at least a player anaysis for the top 3 players you find scummy (if you don't find anyone scummy, a game analysis).

[Yosarian2]

Yeah, that;s a really scummy weak claim, mafiassk. If you're town, you just given the scum information, and yet your claim does absoltuly nothing to help the town evaluate you.

[Tarhalindur]

"Rise, and measure the Temple of the Five."

Remussaidow's current lack of and future V/LA status are hereby noted. Many thanks, remussaidow!

In other news, apparently the threat of deadline has convinced some people to get the game moving, and we have two players who will be V/LA next week. I'm going to be generous and PASS you on the First Deadline Review, despite the utter lack of posting on Monday. Keep the game moving, people - if I see twenty-four hours without posting again, especially if the weekends are not involved, I won't be so generous.

The Twenty-Fifth Vote Count (aka the "Hot Springs Episode?" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (1)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3) - Cavebear with a toothache
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): MafiaSSK, Grimmy (rep. Musher333), Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2, remussaidow

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Battousai
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (2) - Battousai, Nocmen
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 25, 2008

Next Mod Deadline Review:

July 18, 2008

[iamausername]

Is there any reason why we shouldn't have SSK claim properly at this point?

[Grimmy]

quick question...
voting jex puts votes on SSK?

Grimmy
will do a read through on monday at work

[iamausername]

quick question...
voting jex puts votes on SSK?

This is correct.

[Nocmen]

Yosarian2
Musher333
iamausername
remussaidow
Macavenger
Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache
Jex
MafiaSSK
Battousai

That is the list of players, the votes for the person will go to the person right below their name.

[Battousai]

iamausername- yes, I would rather see MafiaSSK CONTRIBUTE instead of claim right now. He can claim later if he wants, but I think contributing would be better for the town.

[Macavenger]

iamausername- yes, I would rather see MafiaSSK CONTRIBUTE instead of claim right now. He can claim later if he wants, but I think contributing would be better for the town.

I endorse this product or service.

I also endorse more SSK votes to force him to contribute, since he's clearly not willing to do so when not under threat of lynch.

[Tarhalindur]

"So, instead of killing them all he goes and turns everyone into Tang? That doesn't make sense."

The Twenty-Sixth Vote Count (aka the "I See Encouraging Signs of an Actual Mafia Game" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (1)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3) - Cavebear with a toothache
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): MafiaSSK, Grimmy (rep. Musher333), Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2, remussaidow

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Battousai
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (1) - Nocmen
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 25, 2008

Second and Final Mod Deadline Review:

July 18, 2008

[Nocmen]

iamausername- yes, I would rather see MafiaSSK CONTRIBUTE instead of claim right now. He can claim later if he wants, but I think contributing would be better for the town.

Agreed. I want to hear his response to the attacks on him more.

[Tarhalindur]

"Oh, but I

am

that perverted."

The Twenty-Seventh Vote Count (aka the "How Are You Gentlemen. All Your Base Are Belong To Us." Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (1)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (3) - Cavebear with a toothache
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - iamausername, Macavenger, Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Not Voting (6): MafiaSSK, Grimmy (rep. Musher333), Jex, Nocmen, Yosarian2, remussaidow

Votes required to lynch: 6

FoS Count:

Battousai (1) - Yosarian2
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (1) - Battousai
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (0)
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (2) - Battousai, Nocmen
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

July 25, 2008

Second and Final Mod Deadline Review:

July 18, 2008

[Battousai]

FOS: Cavebear

I thought FOS's didn't fall under the same category as the vote count ( I FoS'd Jex earlier and MafiaSSK recieved a FoS I think)

Iamausername, why do you want MafiaSSK to claim so bad? All he has to say is vanilla townie and we gather no information and MafiaSSK would continue to not contribute.

[remussaidow]

well, being a vt doesn't match with his softclaim from before. So that would in and of itself, give us information.

[iamausername]

Yeah, my point is that he's already half claimed by saying

If I roleclaimed you'd understand a lot why you shouldn't lynch me.

and at this point, I don't think it would harm the town any to have him claim fully.

If he's town, he's already painted a big target on himself with this, and I don't think this would be increased a whole lot by telling us exactly why it is that we'd understand why we shouldn't lynch him.
If he's scum, then forcing him to pin himself down to a particular lie is obviously a good idea.

I would like to see SSK contribute as well, but that is in no way mutually exclusive to claiming.

[Macavenger]

I'd like to point out that MafiaSSK has posted in several places around the site the last couple days, including games in this forum, but not here.

More votes please. Let's run him up to L-1 and see if he's willing to contribute then.

[Grimmy]

<A mighty hand reaches down from the heavens above and wraps itself aroudn the very throat of Mssk, and a booming voice (and quite sexy I might add) shouts to him>
SPEAK NOW, AND DECLARE YOUR ALLEGIANCES WITH PROOF, OR SUFFER A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH!!!

Vote: Jex

The pressure should begin to rise now. And fate worse than death is where you die and we all point and laugh at the body, and sometimes pee on it for good measure.

Grimmy
drinking some high quality H2O.