Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 3.01

NaCl (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (11) -

Eddie Cane, Titus, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39, DrDolittle, pisskop, Amrun, NaCl, bob3141

With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2020-02-05 00:15:00).

[Amrun]

Also, now that we know unwnd is scum, I don’t give my bob argument re: Pine much merit. It could be true, but my scenarios for Pine kill were at least one of {bob scum, Krazy scum} had to be true, so, welp.

[Amrun]

My piss town read has only strengthened. His play as scum is agenda driven and it’s just ... not that, here.

I am going to be honest, I think these 3 posts mean I can't let Piss live this game even if there are townie points

because the core town here is

- ND
- oka
- piss
- amrun
- unwnd
- SS

- eddie


leaving

- hecktic
- bob
- nacl
- elsa
- doodles
- titus

unwnd is justa shitty comprise

unwnd is in any case a counter to a counter wagon at this point. I think Ive underestimated the methodology oka has employed here and he's gathering reads, but the wagon itself is a compromise.

I don’t functionally disagree. I think he has to be in PoE. I think he’ll flip green though.


I don’t know why you’re locking Nancy town tbh.


In all fairness I havent reread yet, no time.


I want to know who DDL saves.

[Eddie Cane]

I gave some town!Nancy points yesterday to Titus, somewhere.

[Nancy Drew 39]

There were no deaths Night 2.

It is now Day 3.

Votecount 3.00

Not Voting (12) -

Eddie Cane, Titus, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39, DrDolittle, Hectic, pisskop, Amrun, NaCl, bob3141

With 12 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 3 is in (expired on 2020-02-05 00:15:00).

Whoah. Did scum give up?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Spoiler: Votewall

Votecount 1.27

popsofctown (5) -

Eddie Cane, Amrun, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, bob3141

Eddie Cane (3) -

popsofctown, Krazy, pisskop

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Prodding NaCl.

Krazy has requested replacement.

unwnd replaces Krazy on team Ripple's Krazy Mistress Dunn.

Votecount 1.28

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Votecount 1.29

popsofctown (4) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane

Eddie Cane (4) -

popsofctown, unwnd, pisskop, Elsa Jay

Pine (3) -

Hectic, OkaPoka, Nancy Drew 39

DrDolittle (1) -

Titus

NaCl (1) -

Pine

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Not Voting (1) -

NaCl

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

Votecount 1.30

popsofctown (5) -

Amrun, Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane, Titus

Eddie Cane (2) -

popsofctown, Elsa Jay

unwnd (2) -

OkaPoka, DrDolittle

NaCl (2) -

Pine, pisskop

Pine (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (3) -

NaCl, unwnd, Nancy Drew 39

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

I really think this was the pivotal moment of things, and Elsa definitely looks the worst from all of it. I don't have another wall about it's just like, Elsa seemed set on Eddie until things starting to turn.

VOTE: Elsa Jay

I don’t for one second believe scum!unwind bussed.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Okay, for some reason I cannot quote that message. I don't understand this website sometimes.

I don't understand Oka's blind confidence towards things.

So any reads yet, thoughts on the game?

Like - Pisskop Amrun
Indifferent - You DDL NaCL
Confused - bob3141 Hectic something_smart
Confused + slightly annoyed - OkaPoka
Concerned - Elsa Jay

[Nancy Drew 39]

viewtopic.php?f=127&t=74684
Last TM, we killed scum d1 and d2, and then d3 Ginngie faked a guilty on a townie so we did not have a perfect game. Shall we break that record?

Elsa: Ank thinks this is her town game.
Piss: Dann thinks Piss is not with Pops (d1 read). Ank thinks Piss is town.
Hectic: has some super partnery posts, also has some super not partnery posts.
Bob: buried his partner, still robotic, if there's a bus vote probably here maybe??
NaCl: Just seems... town. Has not posted a lot, another potential light busser to look at.

Does anybody in these 5 have a great argument for why they're town?

I think scum bussed, and unwind was fine with lynching Elsa, so I don’t believe he would buss his buddy.

[Eddie Cane]

I think scum bussed, and unwind was fine with lynching Elsa, so I don’t believe he would buss his buddy.

scum bussed
and scum pushed a player
therefore scum did not bus

[Nancy Drew 39]

All 3 of these people have votes, but I would like to propose a town bloc of Titus, Oka, SS.

I just want this to be right

but uh, I think I hard town read him day 1 independent of pushes. His presence has been 0 lately which isn't helping confidence. I haven't played with him!scum fwiw.

you thinking he's kill today maybe or just something to consider after scummier slots are purged if games still going

i have a higher list of priorities

its not today and i am very sure that if s-s ends up being scum he'll only survive if its him,titus,nancy in lylo 3

If he’s scum, only if Titus gamethows.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think scum bussed, and unwind was fine with lynching Elsa, so I don’t believe he would buss his buddy.

scum bussed
and scum pushed a player
therefore scum did not bus

No, I mean I believe unwind was likely bussed but that unwind wanted to kill Elsa.

[Nancy Drew 39]

viewtopic.php?f=127&t=74684
Last TM, we killed scum d1 and d2, and then d3 Ginngie faked a guilty on a townie so we did not have a perfect game. Shall we break that record?

Elsa: Ank thinks this is her town game.
Piss: Dann thinks Piss is not with Pops (d1 read). Ank thinks Piss is town.
Hectic: has some super partnery posts, also has some super not partnery posts.
Bob: buried his partner, still robotic, if there's a bus vote probably here maybe??
NaCl: Just seems... town. Has not posted a lot, another potential light busser to look at.

Does anybody in these 5 have a great argument for why they're town?

Bob wasn’t on unwind wagon.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 2.15

unwnd (7) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart, DrDolittle, Hectic, pisskop, OkaPoka

pisskop (2) -

Nancy Drew 39, Elsa Jay

Elsa Jay (1) -

unwnd

NaCl (1) -

Titus

Not Voting (2) -

bob3141, NaCl

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

I’m right @Eddie, so wtf is Dann talking about? Or was he referring to something else?

[Eddie Cane]

i'm talking about Pops. Once two ICs are both voting unwnd then the votes don't really matter, the lynch is going through.

[OkaPoka]

i'm talking about Pops. Once two ICs are both voting unwnd then the votes don't really matter, the lynch is going through.

can confirm i ended my pet project to be an

ugh

team player

[Nancy Drew 39]

Since Auro was obviously wrong about Krazy, take this with a grain of salt. He thinks SS, Amrun and Elsa are town.

He said that he didn’t think Amrun bussed Pops, iow.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Votecount 1.33

popsofctown (8) -

Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane, Titus, pisskop, Amrun, Elsa Jay, Nancy Drew 39

NaCl (2) -

Pine, popsofctown

unwnd (1) -

DrDolittle

Pine (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (3) -

NaCl, unwnd, OkaPoka

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

Votecount 2.15

unwnd (7) -

Amrun, Eddie Cane, Something_Smart, DrDolittle, Hectic, pisskop, OkaPoka

pisskop (2) -

Nancy Drew 39, Elsa Jay

Elsa Jay (1) -

unwnd

NaCl (1) -

Titus

Not Voting (2) -

bob3141, NaCl

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

[OkaPoka]

what is your conclusion nancy

[Nancy Drew 39]

what is your conclusion nancy

My best guess is that Piss probably bussed. I think once scum knew unwind was unsalvageable, last scum likely made sure to be on that wagon.

I also think that Pine kill was likely made to possibly frame Hectic, another reason why I’m suspicious of Piss. NaCl waz also initially sr him but he was also on the Pops counterwagon, which Piss jumped on and Piss’ vote on Eddie is also bad.

[Eddie Cane]

Nancy, I will say this: I don't think scum's game plan would be to spend a crucial night kill to frame somebody already easily pushable for having bad associations with flipped scum. If Piss is scum, its not because of that.

[OkaPoka]

what is your conclusion nancy

My best guess is that Piss probably bussed. I think once scum knew unwind was unsalvageable, last scum likely made sure to be on that wagon.

I also think that Pine kill was likely made to possibly frame Hectic, another reason why I’m suspicious of Piss. NaCl waz also initially sr him but he was also on the Pops counterwagon, which Piss jumped on and Piss’ vote on Eddie is also bad.

wasn't pops also unsalvageable? like I gave intent to hammer with a literal countdown and yet there was some sneaky movement towards the end there

[OkaPoka]

like with both pops and unwnd I gave intent to hammer and I think I was in a relatively similar position reads wise from everyone else and if anything the pops EOD wagon was a lot more sus contextually

[Eddie Cane]

Votecount 1.14

Pine (4) -

Hectic, Amrun, Nancy Drew 39, Krazy

NaCl (3) -

Pine, pisskop, Titus

Hectic (1) -

Elsa Jay

OkaPoka (1) -

NaCl

Titus (1) -

bob3141

Amrun (1) -

popsofctown

Something_Smart (1) -

DrDolittle

Krazy (1) -

Eddie Cane

DrDolittle (1) -

OkaPoka

Not Voting (1) -

Something_Smart

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

I think reading from this point on is the right part of the thread to form good reads. There hadn't been a wagon on (flipped) scum up to my Krazy vote, and then it transitions into me trying to control the thread into a Pops lynch along with some Amrun. I think this is where the stances are most relevant, not at EoD when Pops' fate was all but sealed as Oka said.

[Nancy Drew 39]

what is your conclusion nancy

My best guess is that Piss probably bussed. I think once scum knew unwind was unsalvageable, last scum likely made sure to be on that wagon.

I also think that Pine kill was likely made to possibly frame Hectic, another reason why I’m suspicious of Piss. NaCl waz also initially sr him but he was also on the Pops counterwagon, which Piss jumped on and Piss’ vote on Eddie is also bad.

wasn't pops also unsalvageable? like I gave intent to hammer with a literal countdown and yet there was some sneaky movement towards the end there

Like NaCl counterwagon.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, I will say this: I don't think scum's game plan would be to spend a crucial night kill to frame somebody already easily pushable for having bad associations with flipped scum. If Piss is scum, its not because of that.

Well it happened with Flubber NK to frame Ari hydra in YGM and scum tried to mislynch them the rest of the game, so why not?