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Post Post #5925 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:28 am

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In post 5918, Flopz wrote: Shift in vote is also based on the voting behaviours of my TR's (mainly Math, Ico and RC).
I words bad again. Ik Maths isn't on the wagon, just meant he's one my my top TR's. I don't think I be following his specific vote anytime soon.
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Post Post #5926 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:32 am

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In post 5912, shos wrote:7. Xtoxm - from the not so little I've seen, I'm leaning further scum there.
???

They have like, no posts and have been V/LA about 90% of the game.

Can you do an Iso or give reasons here because this sentence explains nothing and has raised my eyebrow.
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Post Post #5927 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:34 am

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In post 5924, shos wrote:
In post 5918, Flopz wrote:Tbh I'm always partial to a Sausage vote. I saw talk of Scum Saudade cranking his obnoxiousness to 11 and from what I've seen of his previous behaviour this does seem to be somehow be the case. (The fact that you can keep going so high will forever astound me)
VOTE: Saudade
Shift in vote is also based on the voting behaviours of my TR's (mainly Math, Ico and RC).
Although I can really see myself voting sausage eventually, this vote is really bad looking

Flopz why did you vote?
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Post Post #5928 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:36 am

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In post 5926, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 5912, shos wrote:7. Xtoxm - from the not so little I've seen, I'm leaning further scum there.
???

They have like, no posts and have been V/LA about 90% of the game.

Can you do an Iso or give reasons here because this sentence explains nothing and has raised my eyebrow.
I wasn't aware that he's vla. Being vla throughout an entire game especially in this size is rather bad, lol.

Anyway, the posts he does post are just bad. It doesn't look like there's any genuine attempt to further town win cond. No analysis. Just shallow words in response to some very specific things which aren't all that interesting
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Post Post #5929 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:41 am

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In post 5928, shos wrote:
In post 5926, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 5912, shos wrote:7. Xtoxm - from the not so little I've seen, I'm leaning further scum there.
???

They have like, no posts and have been V/LA about 90% of the game.

Can you do an Iso or give reasons here because this sentence explains nothing and has raised my eyebrow.
I wasn't aware that he's vla. Being vla throughout an entire game especially in this size is rather bad, lol.

Anyway, the posts he does post are just bad. It doesn't look like there's any genuine attempt to further town win cond. No analysis. Just shallow words in response to some very specific things which aren't all that interesting
Okay, That's good words! Thanks shos, it helps a lot :)

I think his V/la tag ran out literally this morning so I can see how you missed it just via that funny timing.

There has been talk of lynchjng him or pressuring him a few times but it was essentially useless until he could provide content which I am really hoping happens soon so he can be read. If it doesn't, I think your vote is well placed.

Why was Saudade left blank in your reads? He is the leading wagon atm and has posted plenty.
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Post Post #5930 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:43 am

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In post 5923, Flopz wrote:Also, yes Ari. I know that Sausage is Tris and Shos is Plum.
Cool!
Sorry I had to ask I just say so little engagement it seemed necessary to clarify.

I don't remember if there was a secondary reason behind the Q but oh well haha
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Post Post #5931 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:05 am

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In post 5914, Saudade wrote:Skitter30 is scum here for voting me
In post 5915, Saudade wrote:Ari is town
And I dont feel like reading back... At all
If you wanted to say more words on these two things I'd appreciate it :)
In post 5917, Flopz wrote:Understandably my alignment is coming into question with how amazingly (read badly) I've been playing this game. Would people find it helpful if I linked my previous off-site game which is probably quite helpful as I was scum there.
I probably wouldn't read it but might quickscan it?
Also you've been V/la most of the game it seems so Iunno how much we can compare the two tbh.
In post 5918, Flopz wrote:Tbh I'm always partial to a Sausage vote. I saw talk of Scum Saudade cranking his obnoxiousness to 11 and from what I've seen of his previous behaviour this does seem to be somehow be the case. (The fact that you can keep going so high will forever astound me)
VOTE: Saudade
Shift in vote is also based on the voting behaviours of my TR's (mainly Math, Ico and RC).
Lol Sausage. Where did that nickname even come from!? XD

Is this vote only based on sheeping of the votes your townies have made and the assumption that this is to his scum meta?
I would love it if you could break this down and give us some reasons of your own :)
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Post Post #5932 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:19 am

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In post 5902, shos wrote:delve into this shit-canyon of a game (I just made this up),
Btw this will probably be the best thing I read today and I thought you should know I loved it XD

Off to work now, have fun y'all
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Post Post #5933 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:38 am

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no more words, im done
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Post Post #5934 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:44 am

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Oh yeah I should say

RCE is explicitly me sheeping other townies

If that's my error vector, that's not on me.
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Post Post #5935 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:45 am

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Skitter is extremely townie saudade and I don't know why you'd think that of all people he is the one scum. Hm?

@ari I think I put a ??? There too, then I wasn't sure so I removed it, then forgot to go back to it
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Post Post #5936 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:50 am

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Shos can you give more detail to your Saudade read because I'm having trouble understanding what your thought process there is
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Post Post #5937 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:59 am

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You called one of his posts town at some point, your teammates said nothing about him besides the equivalent of town for ~reasons~, now you're saying you could consider voting him but hey look this vote on him is scummy. Aren't you worried that his townread on you was TMI if you're town?
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Post Post #5938 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:16 am

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What's TMI?
Also I am very unsure. I try to not get biased by my teammates. I'll try to get. Afew computer minutes and get a firm opinion
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Post Post #5939 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:17 am

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And re: the vote
Votes can be bad even if their target is good. Context is relevant, and this vote was bad.
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Post Post #5940 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:29 am

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I'm trying to understand both your and your teams progression on Saudade through the game and your current stance and I don't right now.
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Post Post #5941 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:40 am

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In post 5938, shos wrote:What's TMI?
Also I am very unsure. I try to not get biased by my teammates. I'll try to get. Afew computer minutes and get a firm opinion
Too much information
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Post Post #5942 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:42 am

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No rush btw.
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Post Post #5943 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:05 am

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So how can expressing a townread be TMI?
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Post Post #5944 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:11 am

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In post 5943, shos wrote:So how can expressing a townread be TMI?
In my case for example I was shot at last night.

So scum know I am town.

Town wouldn’t know yet.

So scum need a believable path from I don’t know to Math is conf town.

So knowing someone is town can be TMI.
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Post Post #5945 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:13 am

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In post 5934, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh yeah I should say

RCE is explicitly me sheeping other townies

If that's my error vector, that's not on me.
RC takes over the game
Pushes a mislynch on a townread
“But RC sheeped me! It’s not MY fault I am toxic and stop blocks”

Riiiiight. I don’t believe you. When Saud flips green you are BoP’d and will die tomorrow.
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Post Post #5946 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:14 am

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In post 5945, MathBlade wrote:
In post 5934, RadiantCowbells wrote:Oh yeah I should say

RCE is explicitly me sheeping other townies

If that's my error vector, that's not on me.
RC takes over the game
Pushes a mislynch on a townread
“But RC sheeped me! It’s not MY fault I am toxic and stop blocks”

Riiiiight. I don’t believe you. When Saud flips green you are BoP’d and will die tomorrow.
RCE**
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Post Post #5947 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:17 am

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In post 5924, shos wrote: Although I can really see myself voting sausage eventually, this vote is really bad looking

Flopz why did you vote?
Aside from joining a couple TR's and the previous comment about his tone. I'm not a fan of his outright refusal to look at anything pre-sausage. Laziness aside, that provides him with an excuse for whenever he would want to push faulty reasoning and gets called out. The matter of fact way he says he won't reread previous posts doesn't seem very pro Town.
is quite a big misrep and the way he brushes off Ico calling him out on it leaves little to be desired.
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Post Post #5948 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:45 am

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In post 5943, shos wrote:So how can expressing a townread be TMI?
I'm saying that Saudade decided you were town for no reason and has been hard defending you and hard pushing your counterwagon (me) without giving any reason why you're town and it, combined with your random ass townread on him for a non-towny post and your teammates random townread on him for... nothing and you saying sure Saudade may be scum but I'm more interested in calling out this vote from the most lynchbaity player in the lobby, you're not exactly giving the only person who doesn't actually think you're SvS (me) much reason to townread you
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Post Post #5949 (ISO) » Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:58 am

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I think I'm done here, 3 out of 5 of the votes on me are there simply because RC is there, the other 2 are scum.
What an awful bunch of sheep you all are
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