Also, AtE is Appeal to Emotion. Sorry that wasn't clear. Now, starting:
raider: I don't like what I see much at all. He seems more concerned about the set up than hunting scum. And while everyone else doesn't believe he was rolefishing earlier, I damn well do. Also, I didn't like how he said there was no deadline. There is a deadline, 3 weeks from the start of D1. Is he trying to lull us into complacency? Either way, while he's done somewhat scummy things, it's actually not that strong a case. Oh yeah, also, there seems to be a bit of covering for each other between DD and raider. If one is scum, I would heavily favor a close look at the other and likely a lynch. I lean slight scum here for now.
Cass: I like her. She thinks about things, such as DD's claim, which she definitely gave a lot of thought to before making it null in her eyes. However...she took a meta read on chen...and then kept her vote on him despite this being SOP for chen? I don't like the fact she hasn't unvoted him if this is normal and he's at L-2. Also not good is "Let's kill a less than useless townie"...than again, compared to no lynch, it's not as bad for policy. Considering most of her behaviors have seemed town, despite the chen issue, I lean slight town. But I want to hear her explain why if chen always does this she's still for killing him.
Matin: For the most part, town oriented. He started believing DD, but as he noticed discrepancies which he looked for he got to FoSing him and encourage DD as vig kill. However...we have that policy lynch attitude with chenhsi:
"imo, the speed of the wagon is bothersome, but as of right now I think Chenhsi is probably the best target for it. Either he's scum or useless town (which isn't a horrible thing to shake off on day 1)"
This isn't good. It's less justifiable than Cass' as well. I'm not really sure on him for now, so neutral.
This is the summary I wrote for myself. I'm not gonna analyze it. I'll leave that to you guys. I hope it helps.
forbiddanlight: Votes Cass based on her name and her birthday. Also says hi. Responds to roleclaim inclined to trust it, says cop should investigate sometime if there is a cop. Points out Ting forgot her. Sticks to believing it unless DD's behavior proves him scum. Agrees with raider about groups, due to false dichotomies. Also doesn't know what to do, might as well keep discussing. Also says cop should investigate DD. Unvotes her random vote, FoS' Kison for his unexplained vote. Still hates camps, saying it's a psychological effect that will take place. Wants reaction analysis now, beyond the agree/disagree analysis, thinks that for now DD doesn't need to be lynched, but shouldn't live to lylo. Explains that seeing obvious ties between two people means that if one is scummy and is lynched, and turns up scum, the other should be heavily considered the next day. Agrees planning too far ahead would be bad. Wanted to see reactions to her idea that he shouldn't make it to lylo. Also, agrees with Matin's plan that if DD is scummy, he gets it. She still wants to believe the claim, even as a null tell. Talks about the cop thing, how she's 50/50 on it, but after looking at it, she agrees the cop shouldn't investigate DD, it'd be a waste. Answers Fonz, saying that when she said it was unsafe as a gambit, she forgot GF, since a claim begs investigation. Denies she was directing cop, just saying it might be a good idea, and left it at hope. Accuses fonz of vig directing. Understands Fonz' point, points out she retracted her stance, and wasn't trying to cop direct anyway. says if telling the cop not to view someone is direction, look at Matin and others who feel it's a waste. Says she was trying to speak thoughts on the situation, un FoS' Kison, understands he was giving her a chance, but that cop may not exist, and really, the cop will do what they want. Comes back, posts how the chenhsi wagon was too fast, and states she would be on it if it weren't for that. She wants to hear chenhsi actually defend himself. Would rather test DD's claim with a vig shot, if there is a vig. If the vig doesn't shoot him, or there is no vig, lynch him if he keeps seeming scummy, and if he survives a vig shot, trust his claim more. Threatens to take chenhsi to L-1 if he doesn't post by 9 PM EST the next day. Feels that chenhsi is reacting as scum, and trying to AtE. Says she thought she said reread before voting chen, not a time limit. Either way, she's going to reread now and post in 2 hours. Also says the time felt longer than it was, and her earlier comment was imprudent haste, so she won't follow through.
Kison: Moves around a lot. I don't get good vibes from him, but he's on the level given the analysis. Maybe it's just OMGUS. But basically, he does ask good questions...I just would like to see how he reacts if the spotlight ever lands on him for some reason. For now, lean town, despite my gut.
cubsfan: So wonderfully lurktastic. Wonder why we don't have a wagon on him yet. the dislike of DD's claim was warranted...the vote wasn't I don't think since most of us were for a vig test. What nags at me is for the most part cub has lurked, and says the chen wagon is a distraction made by DD. It could be he's afraid if chen is lynched for lurking, he'll be next. But...that's just being paranoid. Really, I don't have enough material to lean either way...though he does seem to try to get others to do the leg work. Call it slight scum at best.
Ennui: Also semi lurkish, but contributes when he does post. Has good thoughts on the reason for DD's claim, well, at least good at putting forth alternatives. What bothers me a bit is the question about factions. Why do you need to know? If you are town, kill scum. If you are scum though, knowing about another faction to use might be beneficial. It's weak though, just something I thought I'd point out. Favors a chen lynch with reasonable spin on the lurking explanation. It's actually reasonably good the way he put it. But anyway, I do lean slight town because he's trying, even if he's not posting all the time.
Ting: I feel REALLY bad about him, as I'm about to get into. What got my eye on him was the fact that he quite often attacked raider based on the supposed NK immune GF argument, when anyone who was bothering to figure out what he meant would know he was thinking in an only mafia situation. The fact you pressed it after that was adequetly explored bespeaks you trying to look insightful by pushing a bullshit case that isn't even related to raider's scumminess. The other stuff he's said hasn't been much for me either way. I pretty much lean scum here.
chen: The man of the hour, and wow he looks bad. Every post he's made has been essentially irrelevant to the game, and when he's in trouble, he rolls over and dies. In fact...it's kinda reach a level of scumminess that makes me wonder if he's honestly scum or just a horrid player. But, either way, it's anti town to roll over under a wagon if you are town. If you are scum, the only reason to do it that way is the appeal to emotion I mentioned. As town, any wagon on you should be fought to the death, and THAT is why rolling over is a scum tell. Either way, I hate the early hypocrisy and the later giving up...so I still lean scum here.
DD: Has claimed a role, but his play has been somewhat scummy. If DD is scum, I'd be looking at raider as scum too. Raider seems to be backing up everything DD says, and when this is pointed out, suddenly DD starts going against raider and saying he's probing for his own interests. He's also too non committal. There is always something scummy going on if you look for it. To be honest, I agree, you either are who you say you are and play a bit too much for yourself, or you are the Godfather. Hopefully, if there is a vig, we'll get this distinction tonight.
Ghyrt: Another chen voter, but with the same sort of hypocrisy on lurkers and the idea that if you don't post, you can't slip reasons for voting (as Ennui). I think this looks better than that "bad townie needs to die" policy lynch attitude. I lean slight town.
The Fonz: Replaced in around page 4 or 5 IIRC, and looked alright in the vig/cop direction debate...the only problem is where is he now on the current debate? All he's said is something about players needing to deal with lurkers, but doesn't deal with the lurker so to speak. I don't like this apparent difference, or the fact he hasn't been around much. But, I don't have much to go on for feeling town or scum with him. Given his earlier views, I will lean slight town.
Alright, all done...my vote is now up...and to be honest, given that I don't like either Ting or chen, and chen is too close to lynch to push right now unless we have more,
Vote:Ting
for the reasons outlined above. Sorry, it just looks too much like you've been trying to seem effective without actually debating anything.