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Post Post #4625 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:03 am

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In post 4623, Auro wrote:Is it unreasonable to ask who'd be scum if one (or) both of us were town? Ya know, like *just* in case you're wrong?
It isnt unreasonable.
Then again, thinking you two arent scum in this game is quite a mad thought. I have given it some thought and no, nothing else works.
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Post Post #4626 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:11 am

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Did you give any thought to the fact that I tried to move votes off of you after a quick hammer?
Did you wonder why I'd fakehammer you and then call you town after your reaction?
Enlighten me about my scum plan.
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Post Post #4627 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:17 am

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In post 4551, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 4548, Formerfish wrote:Gobs is a bad lynch today, if there is a tomorrow he can totally be on the table.
Why? He has the most pairings. I just wanted Dann first because you guys lose if he's scum. But since there's an insane amount of resistance to lynching Dann we may as well make the optimal play.
I disagree. In fact he has the least pairings.

Auro and Dann arent his partner. Both of them, especially auro has been setting up his lynch since days. At daystart he was the only one auro was pushing.

Im not his partner, i buddied up to him at the start of the game but since then he has been incredibly distant with me, i havent come to his aid at all in the previous days and hes trying to push me now.

That leaves bb, ff and you? Meanwhile auro and dann theoretically can be scum with anyone but me and gob.
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Post Post #4628 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 4:41 am

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Oh well.

Cheeky, now we know that neither FF nor Dong will change their minds, even if you're convinced we're both town.

Still trying to lynch one of us is just dumb for scum!Dong, since he would know we flip town and Gobbles/Molla both want his head. Dong is town. And we're in autoloss because of that.

Pick one of me/Dann and you'll get your lynch. You'll have to convince Gobbles or Molla; I doubt they would both refuse for long. I'm not going to self-vote or vote Dann on principle.
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Dong is somehow scum and playing a yolo strategy, it will become apparent in LyLo anyway for reasons.

On a selfish, personal level I'd rather you get me lynched because that leaves Dann to try and win LyLo. :P
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Post Post #4629 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:14 am

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Dong/FF could be counting on the Auro > Gobble trajectory or the Dann > Gobble trajectory, if it is indeed Dong/FF.

But meh
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Post Post #4630 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:20 am

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In post 4629, Dannflor wrote:Dong/FF could be counting on the Auro > Gobble trajectory or the Dann > Gobble trajectory, if it is indeed Dong/FF.
How?
Molla's always going for Dong over Gobble, that much is clear. For them to believe that Molla will suddenly change his mind in LyLo and go for Gobble is kinda stupid.
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Post Post #4631 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:23 am

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In post 4630, Auro wrote:
In post 4629, Dannflor wrote:Dong/FF could be counting on the Auro > Gobble trajectory or the Dann > Gobble trajectory, if it is indeed Dong/FF.
How?
Molla's always going for Dong over Gobble, that much is clear. For them to believe that Molla will suddenly change his mind in LyLo and go for Gobble is kinda stupid.
In LyLo they literally only need Cheeky, and it looks like Cheeky is deep in their pockets if they're scum.
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Post Post #4632 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:24 am

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Spoiler: A message from Eddie Cane!
In post 2620, Hopkirk wrote:I'm going to start reading some isos. I have a couple of hours.

Before I start, my current thought process is that Dann/Gobble is the scumteam, but we never lynch Dann there, and if Gobbles flips town we never lynch Dann.

Dong and Auro are town.
Alright I give up on this game. You can skip the rest of this post if you don't want to hear me whine.

I like Cheeky out of game so I'm going to stop insulting. I actually don't really care anymore. All that's going to happen is Cheeky is going to say we played bad post game and deserved to get lynched. Haah.

Stop blaming us for the Hop lynch when we were sorting him and he got quick-lynched by Cheeky and FF. What the fuck is that.

Final thoughts: I hope Auro's alignment wins the game. Unfortunately, he's town so that won't happen.

I'm so so glad I reread this game twice to make team solves for Cheeky to call them terrible, ignore me, and lynch me.

You know games where you lynch the obvious cop over a shitty scum counterclaim? This isn't like that. This is like the games where you lynch the obvious cop because a VT counterclaims because ConFiDEnCe XD

I'm actually still just like stunned Dann is being lynched. Like I cannot believe it. This feels like a really funny dream. He's actually played fairly well and I feel bad for him because he's gonna blame himself for this mislynch.

The remaining solves I personally have removing Cheeky and Auro are:

Molla Gobble
FF Gobble
Dong Gobble
Dong FF

Maybe I'm missing one or two or am wrong on Cheeky, but who cares. Dann is getting lynched the dead reads of "Dann's my top town - Dunn and "Dann can win if he's scum lol" - Ceph (The two night kills that WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEEKY if we were scum BUT WIFOM XD) "lynch gobbles if he's town never lynch dann" - the dude Cheeky and FF quickhammered and finally, "vote Hop I prefer this," - espeonage, The only non town read here and even she laughed at thinking Dann was scum in her Hop vote.

BUT MUH WIFOM XD

"But wait Eddie Cane, didn't Dann also unvote BBmolla first, at a wagon of 5, and vote NSG 4th instead when he could have voted FF?" - WIFOM (Cheeky)
"But wait Eddie Cane, didn't Dann kill Dunn, who had a kill pool of 3 town in Cheeky's world (dong!town), and Dannflor as his top town?" - WIFOM (Cheeky)

I am just assuming the argument is WIFOM, because AURO has town cased us extensively and the response was DANN SCUM OPEN YOUR EYES SHEEPLE.

Again, to be clear, I like Cheeky out of game and these are purely insults related to this specific game and nothing else.

Good luck all.

PS: Dong's recent post is so terrible what the fuck. It feels weird to think it's all town pushing us, which a Gobbles/BB team would be, but whatever.
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Post Post #4633 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:24 am

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Oh hm I see
I still think that can be resolved partly in LyLo, let's see

Pedit: Who will they NK then? You think they'll NK whoever in us isn't lynched?
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Post Post #4634 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:25 am

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I have to catch a flight.

Good luck in LyLo all.

Sorry I couldn't give you more before I left Auro.
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Post Post #4635 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:25 am

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In post 4633, Auro wrote:Oh hm I see
I still think that can be resolved partly in LyLo, let's see

Pedit: Who will they NK then? You think they'll NK whoever in us isn't lynched?
Yeah that's kinda what I've been saying
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Post Post #4636 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:27 am

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I might be able to check in to use my vote or answer basic questions but other than that I'm pretty much gone until Monday.
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Post Post #4637 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:29 am

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I really really really wish they NK me if you're lynched.
Yeah, see ya!

There's no need to apologize dude, I think you've given enough now.
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Post Post #4638 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 6:37 am

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Also note that even if Cheeky townblocked us right off the bat we'd still not gather enough votes on scum; so Cheeky's actually not to blame for your/my lynch at the moment.
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Post Post #4639 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:48 am

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I was too angry so I went to bed I’m all better now

I’m here for real hit me with whatever you want to talk about

Do I think it’s Dong/Auro still? Maybe. Dong is the one I least townread in this game. Like I legitimately can have reasons for everyone in this game seeming town.

That’s why I’m sitting here atm trying to decide what to do
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Post Post #4640 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 7:56 am

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In post 4616, Auro wrote:
In post 4597, Donempire wrote:
In post 4320, CheekyTeeky wrote:
In post 4316, Formerfish wrote:Scouts honor I will not place a vote down on anyone in lylo without talking to everyone that day.
Dong can you please do this too?
Ok
Hate that this is the only contribution from Dong rn
You really don’t because apparently you think he’s town no matter what
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Post Post #4641 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:02 am

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Wtf is the votecount
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Post Post #4642 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:05 am

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In post 4640, BBmolla wrote:You really don’t because apparently you think he’s town no matter what
I hate it
because
I think he's town.
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Post Post #4643 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:06 am

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If I thought there was a good chance he'd scum I'd simply just vote that
You and Gob want to lynch him anyway and Dann would vote too.
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Post Post #4644 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:07 am

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In post 4643, Auro wrote:If I thought there was a good chance he'd scum I'd simply just vote that
You and Gob want to lynch him anyway and Dann would vote too.
Meh I think you just want him alive because you know if he dies you’re likely getting lynched
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Post Post #4645 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:07 am

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Or he’s your scumbuddy

I’m very demoralized
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Post Post #4646 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:09 am

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What is the votes anyone got them at all
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Post Post #4647 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:10 am

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In post 4644, BBmolla wrote:
In post 4643, Auro wrote:If I thought there was a good chance he'd scum I'd simply just vote that
You and Gob want to lynch him anyway and Dann would vote too.
Meh I think you just want him alive because you know if he dies you’re likely getting lynched
You're right, that will happen, and that's a town loss.
The better option is me (or Dann, whatever) dying today.
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Post Post #4648 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:13 am

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Also look I assumed he was town let’s flip the lynch on me no?
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Post Post #4649 (ISO) » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:13 am

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I don't get you?

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