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Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:57 am

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Armlx seems slightly defensive of Alabaska. I mean, Alabaska has shown us that he can be vehement enough in his own right.


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Alabaska J (4): Riceballtail, Gremwell, Thesweatpantsninja, farside22
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Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:10 am

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I feel his wagon is being pushed on very poor reasoning.
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Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:53 am

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RBT is Yoshi. Alabaska has a case of the tunnel visions. Neither is getting us anywhere.
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Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:37 pm

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Fake-claims given by mods are common in theme games, I believe. Also, maybe he got lucky or Yoshi is actually anti-town (that last one is a stretch definitely but sometimes mods like to switch it up to make flavor not so guessable).
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Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:23 pm

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Is Gimbo gonna be replaced because of his indefinite suspension?
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Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:56 pm

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Ideally.
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Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:11 pm

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How did this game die all of a sudden? Was Gimbo the only thing keeping it going?
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Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:17 pm

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Surye wrote:RBT is Yoshi. Alabaska has a case of the tunnel visions. Neither is getting us anywhere.
I endorse this post. I seemed to remember alabaska's vote flopping a lot, but upon review it wasn't anything other people didn't do (the whole deadline issue).
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Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:20 am

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Alabaska J wrote:Is Gimbo gonna be replaced because of his indefinite suspension?
O_O

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Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:54 am

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Alabaska J wrote:How did this game die all of a sudden?
It's strange, because I really think the last ten pages have far more useful information to go on than the other 50 combined.

Now, getting back to what I was saying before Cream claimed and everything went a bit crazy, I'm pretty sure there was scum on his wagon. ashmite pointed out a fairly reasonable connection case between Rogue and Cream, and suddenly a whole bunch of people appear out of the woodwork to say "good point, ashmite! vote cream!"
Cream is now apparently confirmed town, so frankly, if you don't think there's any scum amongst {ashmite, goborage, incrediball, armlx, Surye, killa seven}, I'm revoking your scumhunting license.

I went after Surye earlier, but he seemed to see the same thing in Cream's claim that farside did, so I think he's off the hook.

ashmite did the legwork in finding the evidence against Cream, rather than just piling onto a bandwagon, which is a point in his favour. But then he later piled onto
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wagon at its peak, saying that he "just read the thread after all the other wagoners". If there's anyone pretending to get what farside was talking about earlier, I'd say ashmite is a prime candidate.

armlx hopping on the wagon with an "I agree" and not presenting a case of his own I find a little suspicious, because I think he's a better player than that, but he was consistently after Cream throughout D1, so I think he's OK.

killa seven I fully expect to hop onto wagons without explanation, and he was also on Cream's case D1.

mr. incrediball and goborage are I think the most suspicious of the Cream wagoners. At the time ashmite presented his case (Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:56 AM by my time) neither had made a post since Sat Jul 05. That's four days without a post. But as soon as a remotely viable wagon appears, they're there within six hours to add votes to it. That, to me, suggests that they were actively lurking, waiting for a good opportunity to get a wagon going on a townie.


Looking at mr. incrediball and goborage's posts in isolation, I'm finding incrediball the more suspicious of the two. His attitude towards Cream on D1 was extremely fence-sitting:
mr. incrediball wrote:i'm still not seeing the case against cream. on the other hand, we need a lynch. i'm happy to consider voting him if someone can explain the case
Seems like trying to score townie points by being against the Cream wagon if he did end up being lynched, but still giving himself an excuse if he needs to get on it, if one of his buddies started to become a leading wagon, for example.

Then there's his reaction to our plan for tonight to have populartajo buy a star and clear Gremwell & TSPN. First he tries to get us to just use a feather, perhaps hoping to kill tajo tonight and leave Gremwell/TSPN's alignment up in the air. When it's explained (again) why we're not doing this, he starts questioning the sanity of feathers. Seems like he really doesn't want too many confirmed townies around.

And just lately:
mr. incrediball wrote:ok, who do we lynch? is my vote on cream?
unvote
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Asking "who do we lynch?" is pretty obviously scummy, and the "is my vote on cream?" just doesn't seem quite honest, somehow. It's like he's trying to distance himself from having made the vote.

Anyway, that all adds up to an
Unvote, Vote: mr. incrediball
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Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:13 am

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The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.

Also, although he is throughly Rosso-esque, killa seven should not be let off the hook completely, in my opinion.
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Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:13 am

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EBWODP: throughly=thoroughly
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Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:20 am

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Alabaska J wrote:The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.

Also, although he is throughly Rosso-esque, killa seven should not be let off the hook completely, in my opinion.
Says the guy that has votes on him. Why don't you make your own case instead of following along.
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Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:22 am

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I didn't like the question of feather sanity, the second post seems very confused, I wouldn't want to post that many uncertainties at once.


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Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:25 am

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farside22 wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.

Also, although he is throughly Rosso-esque, killa seven should not be let off the hook completely, in my opinion.
Says the guy that has votes on him. Why don't you make your own case instead of following along.
What the hell…I said I was looking into it. I just got home and read his post… I can't magically analyze all of their posts and make cases right away. What I can do is say that the evidence he has presented piques my interest and is an impetus for further scumhunting. Also, I don't see what having votes on me has to do with anything, especially seeing that there is no sound basis for those votes IMO.
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Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:57 am

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By Law count I have already 8 coins.
Im not liking Alabaska for some reason. And I have a bad feeling about Armlx. I might reread. But for now I agree with iamusername.
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Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:00 am

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K7 huh? I like.
Vote: K7


@ K7: What do you think of Phoebus?

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Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:31 am

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^ great reason to vote me outa no where like in every game.
um lemme go read into phoebus nad ill tell you what i think of him kay?
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Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:36 am

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ok i just re read phoebus posts, i didnt like him at all day one. from him hoping on creams wagon then omgus vote on gimbo then back on creams wagon then omgus vote on me because i was attacking him for the peach fishing. phoebus play is very weird fora veteran, i dont like how he is playing this game. i would like to lynch cream and him equally.
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Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:37 pm

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killa seven wrote:ok i just re read phoebus posts, i didnt like him at all day one. from him hoping on creams wagon then omgus vote on gimbo then back on creams wagon then omgus vote on me because i was attacking him for the peach fishing. phoebus play is very weird fora veteran, i dont like how he is playing this game. i would like to lynch cream and him equally.
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Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:58 pm

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mr. incrediball wrote:
TheSweatpantsNinja wrote: In another news, I don't see nearly enough coin-claiming.
are you truly that dense?

in a game that involves coins, there are probably coin-stealing roles.

having everyone coin-claim is just giving a coin-stealer knowledge on who to target.

...but perhaps that's exactly what you wanted?

vote TSPN
This popped out at me: coin-stealing roles? That seems a bit odd. VEry much a reach, especially at that stage. There were many reasons he could have put forth as to why he was against TSPN's claim, and yet he chose that…hmmmm. Odd.
mr. incrediball wrote:i think someone
needs
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This seems like a bit of a role-fish to me.
mr. incrediball wrote:sorry for being away for a while!

i'm liking the way pop is getting coins. however, i am NOT liking your choice of target.

gremwall seems to be an odd one. he says it's ok for pop to try and nightkill him, even though he knows that if he's town, then the nightkill will fail, wasting a star. If he's scum, he's practically giving himself up, which i don't see a scum doing. but his pro-town line of thinking, well... it isn't very pro-town.

it's a null-tell on his alignment, but if pop hits grem, and he's pro-town, then we've lost a nightkill.


if the aim of the game is to find out grem's alignment, then it would be easier to feather him, no?

or have i got completely the wrong end of of the stick?


p.s. if this star thing works, i fully endorse using it for pop, or another confirmed townie, tomorrow.
This post just seems wishy-washy and contradictory. He starts out acting as though it is horrible to target Gremwell and good to use a star but ends up saying it is good to target Gremwell and horrible to use a star. Also WIFOMs the heck out of Gremwell's possible alignment. This looks to me like a post that someone makes to make it look like they are contributing to the thread but doesn't really know what to say.
mr. incrediball wrote:i'm not sure how confirming grem confirms TSN. where does it say the feathers are sanity guaranteed?


(it's a reach, i know. but if we're considering the possibility that gimbo is scum, then why not do the same for TSN?)


i understand the star idea now. unfortunately, now the scum know not to try n kill pop anyway >.<
Now we get to the good (or should I say bad?) stuff. Sanity of feathers is a stupid thing to speculate about. It will just cause WIFOM, doubt, and confusion, things that are only good for anti-town roles. Also, justifies the comment by misinterpreting what people (myself included) were saying earlier about Gimbo's alignment. Even if he had gotten it right it wouldn't have been the same thing anyway.
mr. incrediball wrote:that's some nice re-reading ash, and stuff that can't go unnoticed.

unvote vote cream
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Hops on the Cream wagon fairly quickly. Doesn't really do anything like this day one, though.
mr. incrediball wrote:that was wierd, farside. but as far as i'm concerned that little episode was a null-tell.

ok, who do we lynch? is my vote on cream?
unvote
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After five days without a post he comes in to unvote so as not to get mixed up with the people (myself included) who were randomly attacked after Cream's claim, yet tries to appease us by saying the episode was a null-tell. Also asks who we should lynch. Many people have brought this up, but I don't see anything wrong with that question; I do it all the time, regardless of alignment. It's just a way of asking what we are doing during the day.

In conclusion, I think the mr. incrediball wagon has some merit. I like RBT better, but, since it is now obvious that we aren't lynching him today, my vote isn't doing any good.
unvote, vote: mr. incrediball
pending a reread of K7 and, with that last post of his being an impetus, goborage.
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Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:00 pm

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Also, armlx, smalltown plus is open and ready to start once you (and pwnz) confirm.
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Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:11 pm

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alabaska wrote: The case iamausername has just posted on mr. incrediball deserves some looking into.
Yeah, incrediball hasn't been impressing me much this game. He'd probably be my second choice.
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Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:03 am

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Remind me of your first choice again?
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Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:13 am

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Alabaska J wrote:Also, armlx, smalltown plus is open and ready to start once you (and pwnz) confirm.
Thanks for the notice.

Not sure on the incrediball case, though this may be my general thought of what his meta could be messing with me.
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