Frankly, I'm not finding anyone but Coron and Elmo particularly scummy. I'm not "following Elmo" as I have unvoted.farside22 wrote:Why are you following Elmo on this? Why haven't you looked further into your own reason on who is scum and why?
You are still voting incognito so I think I'm paying more attention then you.DrippingGoofball wrote:Frankly, I'm not finding anyone but Coron and Elmo particularly scummy. I'm not "following Elmo" as I have unvoted.farside22 wrote:Why are you following Elmo on this? Why haven't you looked further into your own reason on who is scum and why?
Can you, like, pay attention?
No.farside22 wrote:You are still voting incognito so I think I'm paying more attention then you.
Because he felt strongly about Incognito, but didn't vote Incognito. After I supported his hunch with my vote, he voted me.farside22 wrote:Why do you think Elmo is scummy?
Exactly, bloody good question.farside22 wrote:Elmo: Do you still think incognito is scummy. Why did you change your vote from him to DGB? Do you think they are both scum and what happened with your thoughts on Coron?
DrippingGoofball wrote:Elmo, I'm willing to get on board your program if you feel so strongly about it. Bear in mind that I probably feel as strongly about Coron being scum, but I am a team player, so here:
unvote, vote: Incognito
I'm losing it. It's tough getting old.farside22 wrote:Looks like incognito vote to me.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Elmo, I'm willing to get on board your program if you feel so strongly about it. Bear in mind that I probably feel as strongly about Coron being scum, but I am a team player, so here:
unvote, vote: Incognito
So why did you vote change from Coron to DGB so quickly? I never got much a reason for your vote on Coron either.Elmo wrote:Hmm, I was supposed to respond to Gorrad before. Please outline how I've taken anything away from the town? If I've taken nothing away from the town, which I would assert, then what I've given must be the same or outweigh that.
a) I thought he was somewhat townish, but he's an experienced player, and I wanted to get another reaction from him to try and gauge him better. I think his reaction is also townish, so that confirms my feeling. There is a semi-breadcrumb of this in my "yeah, pretty much".Unvote.
b) To see, perhaps, how other people reacted to that. If he's scum, his scumbuddies might attack me; if he was town, a scumbag might want a counter-wagon to one of the people with votes on them and jump on. I'd strongly imagine that at least one of Sarc and Incog are scum; I believe it's Sarc, predictably, but I think that's true if I'm wrong.
On balance, I tend toward Farside being town (or at least not scumbuddies with Coron) andvote DrippingGoofballdiescumdie.
What did you mean then, Elmo?Elmo wrote:Gorrad: Comment on mah Sarc case.
Incognito: Reeeead me.
I am feeling stubborn about Incognito. The last time I was stubborn about someone, they were scum (hi Farside). I'm still feeling stubborn. I should (asdfgh) get round to metagaming him. Bah.
This.Elmo wrote:DGB: Explain why Coron is supposed to be scum post-haste.
Also, while I remember, this.Elmo wrote:Please pick any of a) remember why you're suspicious of me b) question her about her attacks c) vote DGB d) diediedie.Sarcastro wrote:DGB - Her attacks on Coron are stupid. Maybe scum.
Isn't that what you kids mean by "WIFOM?"Elmo wrote:"I know there's no actual evidence, and I know my gut doesn't actually say he's town, but nonetheless he's toooooowwn damn you" which is, historically, a bad sign.
That's not pretending that you think he's scum?Elmo wrote:I didn't pretend he was scum. I voted for him, to get a reaction, and wondering if anyone would jump on.
I believe that I did. Didn't I?Elmo wrote:The whole point was that a bandwagon on him would be "un-natural", inthat I don't believe anyone had vocally accused him at that point (if I remember correctly), so a vote on him would essentially come out of nowhere.
Not to lynch? But to provoke a reaction? Mmm, yeah, I suppose.Elmo wrote:I believe it's very common to vote someone without a reason to provoke a reaction.
No.DrippingGoofball wrote:That's not pretending that you think he's scum?
No.DrippingGoofball wrote:I believe that I did. Didn't I?
Yes.DrippingGoofball wrote:Not to lynch? But to provoke a reaction? Mmm, yeah, I suppose.
Sorry, I guess I should make as much of a case that you're scummy as you did with me.scotmany12 wrote:You want to, I don't know, actually make a case against me coron? You constantly calling me scum with out any substance is really getting annoying.
Did you post this while high, hung over and sleep deprived or something? This whole post just doesn't fit with EVERYTHING else you've said all game. Firstly, look at incog, who've you've defended for basically the entire game. I mean what? Suddenly he's in your top 3. Me who've you'd hardly commented on, and jumped all over Armlx for for finding scummy, and farside, which I guess is the odd one out, who you'd barely talked about but was on the scummy side of things acording to you before hand.scotmany12 wrote:I am posting this in all of my games and V/LA, as well as sending it to all the mods of games I am involved in. I will be away from Saturday, July 5th to Sunday, July 13th. As of now, I expect to have absolutely no internet access. While I hope that I am not, I will fully understand if I am replaced. My apologies to all that are involved.
Um, I'm really unsure of what to think about people. Just off the top of my head, I would say my top three as of now are farside, incog, and coron. I think I just need to take time and really look into this game. Unfortunately I won't have time for that until I return.
After rereading this post I feel the need to go back and correct several errors, I got a bit caught up in the whole writing the post thing and said some odd things.Coron wrote:Sorry, I guess I should make as much of a case that you're scummy as you did with me.scotmany12 wrote:You want to, I don't know, actually make a case against me coron? You constantly calling me scum with out any substance is really getting annoying.
Oh wait. The reasons I've provided, though fairly minimal are already better than what you've provided! That's right, I remember now!
Also, reviewing your posts from yesterday, you appear to have questioned both DGB and Armlx finding me scummy recently, yet today, you come out of no where and do the same thing. Odd, hypocritical and scummy. There is another example of something you've done that has struck me as a little weird, I seem to only be scummy when it suits you. If you can attack DGB or armlx by defending me then I'm town, but if attacking me will defend you or help lynch me it seems I'm scum. Hm. Odd, that.
Also, what you have cited as my "scummy actions" happened largely at or before day 2, but, you didn't even cite me as scummy then, but you couldn't cut armlx the tiniest break to change his mind. Hm.
This is what I find in a couple minutes of looking at and thinking about your posts, I could probably with more analysis come up with a ton more, but I mostly keep stuff to myself unless it's really good, because then I can see who notices the stuff like a townie would(as opposed to how the scum would).
Uncertainty.Elmo wrote:I am feeling stubborn about Incognito. The last time I was stubborn about someone, they were scum (hi Farside). I'm still feeling stubborn. I should (asdfgh) get round to metagaming him. Bah.
One of Sarc or Incog, leaning Sarc.Elmo wrote:b) To see, perhaps, how other people reacted to that. If he's scum, his scumbuddies might attack me; if he was town, a scumbag might want a counter-wagon to one of the people with votes on them and jump on. I'd strongly imagine that at least one of Sarc and Incog are scum; I believe it's Sarc, predictably, but I think that's true if I'm wrong.
Oof.Elmo wrote:INCOG IS TOWN, LET'S TAKE THIS SOMEPLACE USEFUL
This post makes absolutely no sense. You only find Coron and Elmo scummy but you giveDrippingGoofball, in post 1150, wrote:Frankly, I'm not finding anyone but Coron and Elmo particularly scummy. I'm not "following Elmo" as I have unvoted.farside22 wrote:Why are you following Elmo on this? Why haven't you looked further into your own reason on who is scum and why?
Can you, like, pay attention?
Eh? Weren't you just attacking scotmany12 calling him opportunistic for voting DGB at a time that you and Sarc mentioned that you found her scummy? Why are you so willing to place her at L-1 so quickly now?Coron, in post 1170, wrote:also:
Vote: DGB
I'm not intimately familiar with her playstyle, but I know she is a bandwagoner, but I feel that the bandwagoning done in this game is a bit much even for her.
It's not hypocritical, odd, or scummy at all. The only thing I really defended you on was your vote for vig, which I do not find scummy. I never defended you in regards to DGB. I simply asked her to explain her vote on you. And I already voiced my problems with armlx finding you scummy (suddenly flipping from you as town to you being scum). This does not, in anyway, mean I find you town. I do not think you are scum with DGB, but if she comes up town then you might be the next person I go after.Coron wrote:Sorry, I guess I should make as much of a case that you're scummy as you did with me.scotmany12 wrote:You want to, I don't know, actually make a case against me coron? You constantly calling me scum with out any substance is really getting annoying.
Oh wait. The reasons I've provided, though fairly minimal are already better than what you've provided! That's right, I remember now!
Also, reviewing your posts from yesterday, you appear to have questioned both DGB and Armlx finding me scummy recently, yet today, you come out of no where and do the same thing. Odd, hypocritical and scummy. There is another example of something you've done that has struck me as a little weird, I seem to only be scummy when it suits you. If you can attack DGB or armlx by defending me then I'm town, but if attacking me will defend you or help lynch me it seems I'm scum. Hm. Odd, that.
Besides for the person I am voting for, I don't usually voice my suspicions that much. That is all I have to say about no really calling you scummy until now.Also, what you have cited as my "scummy actions" happened largely at or before day 2, but, you didn't even cite me as scummy then, but you couldn't cut armlx the tiniest break to change his mind. Hm.
I don't recall defending incog. But you are right, I did say I did not consider him scum at one point. But with you and farside. First off, you are attacking me for finding DGB scummy, who you also find scum. When I attacked armlx, I was simply unsatisfied with his reasons on why he thought you were scum. I had a brief interaction with farside yesterday, and in reality, anyone I put down you could have said the same thing about. Besides the people I am voting for, I do not voice my suspicions much. So if I put down gorrad and sarc in place of you and farside, you can be saying the same thing. As I said, that was all of the top of my head, which is why I did not follow it and instead voted for DGB.Coron wrote:Did you post this while high, hung over and sleep deprived or something? This whole post just doesn't fit with EVERYTHING else you've said all game. Firstly, look at incog, who've you've defended for basically the entire game. I mean what? Suddenly he's in your top 3. Me who've you'd hardly commented on, and jumped all over Armlx for for finding scummy, and farside, which I guess is the odd one out, who you'd barely talked about but was on the scummy side of things acording to you before hand.scotmany12 wrote:I am posting this in all of my games and V/LA, as well as sending it to all the mods of games I am involved in. I will be away from Saturday, July 5th to Sunday, July 13th. As of now, I expect to have absolutely no internet access. While I hope that I am not, I will fully understand if I am replaced. My apologies to all that are involved.
Um, I'm really unsure of what to think about people. Just off the top of my head, I would say my top three as of now are farside, incog, and coron. I think I just need to take time and really look into this game. Unfortunately I won't have time for that until I return.
I mean, I know you said you were unsure, but this seems totally inconsistant with EVERYTHING else.
"So quickly"? I've been considering placing my vote on DGB since before scot placed his. His and Elmo's seeming oportunism gave me pause which is why it took this long for me to place my vote.Incognito wrote:Eh? Weren't you just attacking scotmany12 calling him opportunistic for voting DGB at a time that you and Sarc mentioned that you found her scummy? Why are you so willing to place her at L-1 so quickly now?Coron, in post 1170, wrote:also:
Vote: DGB
I'm not intimately familiar with her playstyle, but I know she is a bandwagoner, but I feel that the bandwagoning done in this game is a bit much even for her.