Cultafia: Game over

Yosarian2 · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:23 pm

Lol. You thought I was

Cerulean

? When I started going after Armlx day 3, and helped him get lynched on day 4?

Man...I've tried some crazy gambits in the past, but bussing my own cult leader on day 3 and 4 while the other cult leader was still at large?

Oh well. All's well that ends well. Good game, everyone.

By the way, sorry I didn't go for that tie, Skruffs; you did really well in a difficult position, but when I realized I had a chance for a town win, I had to go for it.

Skruffs · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:33 pm

mnowax wrote:
sorry skruffs you should have taken the joint town deal.

I didn't shoot the night you shot Beep! beep!. I took the deal, you renigged. I decided not to out you as the real vig to make sure Stark also got screwed.

In hind sight, I *should* have shot Yosarian2 and hoped that Mno would vote stark or beep before they voted him (because I thought it was beep and stark vs mno).

Mno, you completely tried to derail the attack on Armlx day four, don't even try to say you didn't. You were voting me the entire day.

Skruffs · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:34 pm

I out lasted both cult leaders, which, as someone who didn't have any 'allies', was I think pretty remarkable. I knew when I had to claim that I was dead, I was hoping that luck would swing my way but, ti didn't.

I was an SK in three games, nearly all at the same time, and none of them ended at all well for me. Shot by BM, lynched in endgame, and lynched in endgame again.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:14 am

Skruffs: The timing dosn't matter, the mod wasn't using those kind of deadline rules.

If you'd been right, then killing one of that cult might have been your best move, since in a 1v1v1v1 endgame, I probably would have gone for a draw. It was just mnowax being town, and me semi-beliving him, that cost you the game; otherwise it was a good plan.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:22 am

good job town...still shocked you lynched me.

NabakovNabakov · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:24 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:good job town...still shocked you lynched me.

Yeah, sorry about that.

So did both cults really target me the night I died?

Also, number of cultists seems low. Night actions?

mnowax · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:25 am

yeah i agree. who kept culting who?

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:30 am

I'm disappointed that mnowax killed me, but great nailbiting endgame, good job town!

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:42 am

Beep! Beep! wrote:I'm not seeing Skruffs as scum.

Beep! Beep! wrote:Oh, and CKD is scum... again!!!

Beep! Beep! wrote:Armlx is not scum in this game.

at least I learned something in this game.

Beep! Beep! · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:27 pm

curiouskarmadog wrote:
Beep! Beep! wrote:I'm not seeing Skruffs as scum.

Beep! Beep! wrote:Oh, and CKD is scum... again!!!

Beep! Beep! wrote:Armlx is not scum in this game.
at least I learned something in this game.

I'm never going to look for scum again. I'm just going to sheepishly bandwagon.

the silent speaker · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:34 pm

I didn't target you, Nab. I can only assume armlx thought you were unrecruitable for some reason. That was the night I recruited Sly.

I actually targeted Yosarian twice -- once n1, when I was blocked, and once n5. When I think that virtually any other choice I could have made that night would have led to me winning...

Norinel · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:48 pm

Night choices, in Google Spreadsheet form: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key= ... SPMQ&hl=en (Discussion stuff is sort of redacted, though I'll re-add it unless there's some objection from Skruffs, the masons, or Fuschia)

But since people were curious, here's how the cult choices went down:
Night 1: tss recruits Y2 and is blocked, armlx recruits Y2 and fails (Steadfast Townie)
Night 2: tss recruits armlx and fails (CR), armlx recruits vollkan successfully
Night 3: tss recruits aioqwe and succeeds, armlx recruits Skruffs and fails (SK)
Night 4: tss recruits SlySly and succeeds, armlx kills NabNab
Night 5: tss recruits Y2 and fails (Steadfast Townie)

The game was designed that cult recruits wouldn't succeed all the time; 4 people other than your CR started with cult immunity, 2 people were potentially protected by Alarmists, and that number could go up as recruits succeeded. 50/50 in a cult vs town scenario gives the town as many lynches as a mafia of the same size, although they recruited a little less than that in this game.

Skruffs · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:04 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:Skruffs: The timing dosn't matter, the mod wasn't using those kind of deadline rules.

If you'd been right, then killing one of that cult might have been your best move, since in a 1v1v1v1 endgame, I probably would have gone for a draw. It was just mnowax being town, and me semi-beliving him, that cost you the game; otherwise it was a good plan.

Well if I *had* shot SlySly, then you would have known that Mnowax was a real vig and lynching me would be the obvious choice.. if I had shot you, then Mno would be the deciding factor; sly would want to lynch me, and mno as town would have to pick which choice he'd prefer (or he could No lynch).

Yosarian2 · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:47 pm

the silent speaker wrote:I didn't target you, Nab. I can only assume armlx thought you were unrecruitable for some reason. That was the night I recruited Sly.

I actually targeted Yosarian twice -- once n1, when I was blocked, and once n5. When I think that virtually any other choice I could have made that night would have led to me winning...

(nods) Yeah, I kept the fact that I was unrecruitable very close to my chest for as long as I could.

Actually, your best bet there would probably have been to kill me instead of trying to recruit me. With a SK, the possibily of members of the other cult, the possibiliy of an unrecruitable townie, and an alarmist left, that probably would have been a safer move, and you would have been in a much stronger position.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:49 pm

Beep! Beep! wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Beep! Beep! wrote:I'm not seeing Skruffs as scum.

Beep! Beep! wrote:Oh, and CKD is scum... again!!!

Beep! Beep! wrote:Armlx is not scum in this game.
at least I learned something in this game.
I'm never going to look for scum again. I'm just going to sheepishly bandwagon.

Eh...you chose right when it really counted and helped us lynch TSS. Even though you incorrectly suspected me (as usual

), you were reasonable and read the thread carefully, and were willing to change your mind; if you hadn't chose correctly then and helped us lynch TSS, he almost certanly would have won.

Skruffs · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:12 pm

BTW:
Armlx got steamrolled before he really had a chance to defend himself, but I *do* Want to commend TSS and SlySly for their play the day TSS got lynched. I Think it was a pretty close call for a while, and it was unfortunate that SlySly's fake claimed wound up getting his leader lynched, but I liek how TSS stuck to it to the end in an attempt to convince everyone. Well played.