Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[RadiantCowbells]

Dw bitmap I'm pretty sure I'm transitioning to standard mode RC soon

[mastina]

tbh I just want to townread farside lol

I wouldn't--the farside as town I remember was far more active and engaged than this.

I might be biased since I admit I am mostly thinking of her from Steven Universe 2 as that's the game I remember her from, but like.
Compare what she's doing here.
To what she did here.
Her iso in Steven Universe 2 was

six pages long

, and those six pages were filled to the brim with wallposts. A player who not only hyperposted content after content, but churned out wall after wall.

I admit that that's probably not the best metric to use, but it is an amazingly stark contrast that does bias me towards thinking she's scum her.

[SirCakez]

I've given up on trying to engage mastina btw

Is that the only reason you're trying to get Vecna lynched right now?
Can you scum case him?

No I've been SRing him for a while you know that...I just wasn't aware a wagon had reformed.
I don't like to make cases; I feel my reasons for SRing him have been made clear.

P-edit: that meta is really old. Farside has admitted she is not playing the same way anymore no?

[Trojan Horses]

No I've been SRing him for a while you know that...I just wasn't aware a wagon had reformed.
I don't like to make cases; I feel my reasons for SRing him have been made clear.

I haven't kept track. Please summarize.

[Trojan Horses]

I admit that that's probably not the best metric to use, but it is an amazingly stark contrast that does bias me towards thinking she's scum her.

Obviously that can change when you replace in to a, what, 70 page game which is also going at a really high pace, right?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ah yes Farside is scum for 4 year old meta not matching up to her first game pack after a long break where she replaced midway in this is a very believable read

[gobbledygook]

tbh I just want to townread farside lol

I wouldn't--the farside as town I remember was far more active and engaged than this.

I might be biased since I admit I am mostly thinking of her from Steven Universe 2 as that's the game I remember her from, but like.
Compare what she's doing here.
To what she did here.
Her iso in Steven Universe 2 was

six pages long

, and those six pages were filled to the brim with wallposts. A player who not only hyperposted content after content, but churned out wall after wall.

I admit that that's probably not the best metric to use, but it is an amazingly stark contrast that does bias me towards thinking she's scum her.

She’s been here for 2 real life days

[SirCakez]

Spoiler: vecna posts

Lol vecna is already starting to shade me in his catch up this is a good sign

What pinged about Vecna’s entrance?

How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as town?

How long after replacing in do you know your slot needs salvaging as scum?

basically the Amished Tell, the first thing scum does when they replace in is ISO themself and see how screwed they are by what predecessor said/did (also to check for any fake claims)

town would do that less, because they know they're town and whatever the person they replaced said was true and genuine regardless of scummy or not

then, a lot of scum think that the best way to cover this is to acknowledge it to come across as town

but then they're acknowledging their predecessor was scummy

it's just yikes all around

This tell works!! Molla also +town points for catching it.

is this like an all star game or what

It's not farside22 lol

wonderwall shading me is cracking me up

Cakez does really love the buzzwords all the time. Any scumread is automatically shading. Do not like

Ya I do love em. Makes it easier for me to communicate with fewer words.

Like maybe I'm confbiased here because I had a decently strong SR on Jorgun and Vecna is dissing on me but I don't feel town from this entrance at all. In fact, I think this sort of spammy "look at my huge wall of catchup!!" type of posting is more indicative of scum trying to clean up a slot.
Like GiF's entrance here reads more town.

In fact, I think this sort of spammy "look at my huge wall of catchup!!" type of posting is more indicative of scum trying to clean up a slot.

Do you not think town would want to try and clean up their slot?

Yes but not in such an aggressive manner. It reads kinda desperate, especially in a no-deadlines game.
Just look at the Amished tell stuff Molla posted

Why was Vecna shading you a good sign, SirFakez?

B/c scum would be looking to put new lynch candidates on the table here since Jormun/Vecna was turning into the designated lynch for Game Halloween.

It's not farside22 lol

Isn't it?

ohhhh that's awesome! I thought it was just someone else who happened to have the same name.

VOTE: baezu
I'm in for this. Her recent posts are so scummy.
I want to go back to Vecna at some point though. 2075 and his Ceph case in general suck. 2082 is TERRIBLE. The Wonderwall defense reeks too.
I wish Wonderwall was not coasting on nothing....
farside prob town?

Actually,

before

NSG's analysis, I'd like to hear everyone else's analysis on reactions to the fakehammer, on Mastina, WANH, RC, me.
I personally have one small note about this but I'll say that afterwards.

I kinda liked it for town

I actually think Mastina is town here. Im not completely willing to go crusader mode over it, but the signs for me are here:

I do not think scum would get this worked up over these reasons. This feels like town being angry over injustice. It could be scum being upset about being wagoned for the wrong reasons, but this feels a bit bigger than that.

I am not certain scum would do the early readslists with so many holes. This is a weak point.

I know from a bunch of games, that whenever Mastina has a lot of very strong opinions on slots that go against the grain, and are polar opposites of mine, but she still feels that they are "very obvious correct reads" its usually a towntell.

Tunneling down on RC=scum would not be a smart move to do as scum vs town RC. It is certain to trigger the death tunnel. Bad idea at L1 as scum. Makes sense if thats what u really believe as town about to die.

Have you played with mastina before?

this isnt 2017 anymore vecna

u have no idea what i am capable of

LOL

I think Vecna slot is scummy -> scum need someone else to put on the lynch table who isn't Vecna -> Vecna immediately starts making me look bad and discrediting me in his entrance = good sign Vecna is scum trying to put someone else on the table

[gobbledygook]

I think I’ve settled on JJh/Elmo as my only two desires to lynch today.
I don’t think a Menalque and Ali hydra plays scum like this considering Ali hates scum teams that do nothing

[SirCakez]

I'm full on SRing mastina now ftr. That farside meta thing is absolutely ridiculous.

[mastina]

For my Mastina read, I am not sure about her anymore. Her play does not remind of town!mastina I have personally seen or her play in TM2020.

I've said before and I'll say it again.

There's not one singular mastina gameplay style; there's multiple. Comparable games to this one: Tales of You, Restless Spirits, from about this point onward in Timeshift Mafia, there's some similarities to Krazy's Anime UPick, very strong similarities to Undertale Mafia, similarly strong similarities to King-sized Anime UPick, some from Varsoon's Variety Hour, a metric ton from Final Fantasy VII, and very vaguely Serums and Steel.

Give a few of those a skim then compare them to here.
And my offer for every scumgame I've played still stands, there's been two games since I last compiled it but I can still track it down.

[mastina]

I just more think mastina is scum and I don't know why that wagon has dissipated.

Because there are players in this game who actually know how to fucking read me rather than tunneling me the whole fucking game at the detriment to giving reads elsewhere.

[We are not helping]

Dw bitmap I'm pretty sure I'm transitioning to standard mode RC soon

ill town read you when you do

-bitmap

[RadiantCowbells]

I just more think mastina is scum and I don't know why that wagon has dissipated.

Because there are players in this game who actually know how to fucking read me rather than tunneling me the whole fucking game at the detriment to giving reads elsewhere.

Wee bit hypocritical given that you know full well early bad scumreads tilt me and you've literally been calling me scum since page 5 or something and I only started calling you scum at like page 60.

[RadiantCowbells]

You even lampshaded knowing how much bad scumreads tilt me by passive aggressively calling me a bad paragon because I have that weakness and have still been going after me since the earliest pages of the game. Now you post about people tunneling you and not letting you get in reads when that's exactly what you've been trying to do to me?

[We are not helping]

RC lets fight in a mud pit now.

bring it u nerd!


~fire

[Trojan Horses]

yay fire is back!

[We are not helping]

me and rc wrestling:


~fire

[gobbledygook]

Mastina, scumreads in Christmas are NSG and WW, right?

[We are not helping]

don't leave ur safe search off when u search "men mud pit" btw. I should have known better.

~fire

[RadiantCowbells]

Gobbles how and why are you talking to Mastina right now

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm failing to grok this

Everything she's saying is disgustingly terrible

Why do you care what her reads are even if you are refusing to scumread her

[mastina]

Those quotes I referenced, do you really think Mastina could fake that?

Dunno which quotes you're referring to but already the answer is 'no'.
Recent scumgames:
This; this.
Backing it up a bit...
This; this technically (but I doubt it's pertinent); this; this; this.

This is not nearly an all-inclusive list, like I said, I did make a post with all of my scumgames so can find that fairly quickly.
But it gives you good browsing material for what scumastina can, and can't, do.

The simple answer is: scumastina can't fake anything pretty much. Anything she gives is real.

[We are not helping]

I'm not really buying mastina as scum but I am also not taking her reads seriously. I also know that if mastina flips scum that RC will never let anyone in this game live it down.

-bitmap

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't see why this game is spectacularly different from TM2018 and given that her being town means she is deliberately playing against her win condition two games in a row out of spite towards me when I have really done nothing to her besides to call her out for repeatedly replacing into games where a player who clearly said they don't want to play with them was present I really hope she is in fact scum!