Doubles Mafia Day 2/ Day 2

[farside]

mastina can u pls apologize to rc.

~fire

I suggest ignoring her. She is creating a hostile environment in the game and all the fighting is really unnecessary.

Just a suggestion

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok. Please explain why RC would lie about this?

Multiple reasons.
1: To dissuade the notion that this game is mountainous and thus, that the scum MUST have an edge to compensate for this clear power.
2: To stern up further paranoia about probably-nonexistent cross-game plays/moves.
3: To allow for easy fabrication of a talk between him and a scumbuddy in my game.

Stupid
Hecking
Unholy
Thoughts

Unbelievably
Pedantic

Must
All
Sacrifice
Time
Intonating
Nasty-stina
Aligned town?

[mastina]

Please RC, Mastina. You need to both stop now or I will ask Jingle to lock this thread. I’m dead serious about this.

There is no 'mastina' here.
I am giving reads, reasons, and defending myself.

RC is telling me to shut up.

[mastina]

i don't remember if u read molla as town, but has molla ever claimed to know u attentively to know how u play.

Heck if I remember but after this game-long tunnel on me he sure as fuck has no right to ever claim it ever in any game in the future ever given how atrociously terrible his tunnel on me at the expense of everything else is.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah I am telling u to shut up

Is shut up such a horrible thing to say that it justifies comparing me to a domestic abuser which btw I have firsthand exercise with but you wouldn't care given you're just looking for some shitty label to throw on me

[RadiantCowbells]

I think the most violent action I've engaged with in the last ten years is to throw a die at my brother for accusing me of cheating in a board game and my soul hurt when I watched one of my cousins fall and mildly hurt her knee but yeah I am domestic abuser great description good job Mastina

[mastina]

There's a huge difference between telling someone to shut up and saying that they are a domestic abuser.

Yeah and I never said you were a domestic abuser.
I never implied it.
I never said it even remotely.

I said the language you used was the same language domestic abusers use--this is a fact.
That's not calling you a domestic abuser, that's not implying you're a domestic abuser, that's a comment on the language type you're using being manipulative, and yes, your language this game

has

been manipulative, the whole game long.

[Trojan Horses]

Please RC, Mastina. You need to both stop now or I will ask Jingle to lock this thread. I’m dead serious about this.

There is no 'mastina' here.
I am giving reads, reasons, and defending myself.

RC is telling me to shut up.

mastina can u pls apologize to rc.

~fire

[mastina]

mastina, stop the fake anger for awhile and just apologize to RC for saying he was acting like a domestic abuser.

I can't apologize for an action I never took. And since I never said he was acting like a domestic abuser, I never implied it either, and the intention of my posts have multiple times been clarified, there's not anything to apologize for?

Like, what do you want me to say, "I'm sorry you thought that I was saying you were acting like a domestic abuser"? Because like. I never fucking said he was acting like a domestic abuser, I never fucking said that he was a domestic abuser, and I never fucking implied either of those things, either.

[Trojan Horses]

Yeah I am telling u to shut up

Is shut up such a horrible thing to say that it justifies comparing me to a domestic abuser which btw I have firsthand exercise with but you wouldn't care given you're just looking for some shitty label to throw on me

I think the most violent action I've engaged with in the last ten years is to throw a die at my brother for accusing me of cheating in a board game and my soul hurt when I watched one of my cousins fall and mildly hurt her knee but yeah I am domestic abuser great description good job Mastina

Fyi Mastina, I’ve had plenty of arguments with RC and the way he has handled them, is the absolute antithesis of what an abuser does.

[mastina]

Comparing RC to any kind of “abuser” is beyond uncool, especially to anyone who knows what he’s been through.

I didn't compare him to one, either.
I didn't call him one.
I didn't say he was acting like one.
I didn't compare him to one.
And I didn't imply any of those.

Pointing out that the language he use is the same language an abuser uses, isn't doing any of those. It is calling his language manipulative, which it is.

[gobbledygook]

Ok. Please explain why RC would lie about this?

Multiple reasons.
1: To dissuade the notion that this game is mountainous and thus, that the scum MUST have an edge to compensate for this clear power.
2: To stern up further paranoia about probably-nonexistent cross-game plays/moves.
3: To allow for easy fabrication of a talk between him and a scumbuddy in my game.

What power would scum need against two neighbors? That’s barely any town power.

[Trojan Horses]

Comparing RC to any kind of “abuser” is beyond uncool, especially to anyone who knows what he’s been through.

I didn't compare him to one, either.
I didn't call him one.
I didn't say he was acting like one.
I didn't compare him to one.
And I didn't imply any of those.

Pointing out that the language he use is the same language an abuser uses, isn't doing any of those. It is calling his language manipulative, which it is.

Then, just straight up call it “manipulaive” then and don’t compare it to what any kind of abuser does. Can you seriously not see how that could be triggering for anyone - especially someone who might have themselves been abused?

[We are not helping]

Comparing RC to any kind of “abuser” is beyond uncool, especially to anyone who knows what he’s been through.

I didn't compare him to one, either.
I didn't call him one.
I didn't say he was acting like one.
I didn't compare him to one.
And I didn't imply any of those.

Pointing out that the language he use is the same language an abuser uses, isn't doing any of those. It is calling his language manipulative, which it is.

I don't see how you grandstanding on this position helps you in anyway.

"Your honor, I never called him a pedophile. I just said he talks like one"

Can u just apologize instead of ur grandstanding.

~fire

[mastina]

Why are you so confident on Cakez town?

Well basically--he radiates an aura where I understand where he is coming from, see how his thoughts have developed, understand them, think those thoughts come from a town-oriented mindset, his earlygame had a casualness and naturalness to it which didn't feel force and until the "end the day" posts he was basically spotless for producing high-quality content which came from a genuine spot, even if it wasn't content I wholeheartedly agreed with.

[SirCakez]

before I respond to some questions aimed at me I just want to say I am very close to PMing the listmods. I'm sick of this argument, it's gone way over the line and I like the players in this game and don't want it to end in replacements and bans.

[Trojan Horses]

Comparing RC to any kind of “abuser” is beyond uncool, especially to anyone who knows what he’s been through.

I didn't compare him to one, either.
I didn't call him one.
I didn't say he was acting like one.
I didn't compare him to one.
And I didn't imply any of those.

Pointing out that the language he use is the same language an abuser uses, isn't doing any of those. It is calling his language manipulative, which it is.

I don't see how you grandstanding on this position helps you in anyway.

"Your honor, I never called him a pedophile. I just said he talks like one"

Can u just apologize instead of ur grandstanding.

~fire

+1

[gobbledygook]

Ok. Please explain why RC would lie about this?

Multiple reasons.
1: To dissuade the notion that this game is mountainous and thus, that the scum MUST have an edge to compensate for this clear power.
2: To stern up further paranoia about probably-nonexistent cross-game plays/moves.
3: To allow for easy fabrication of a talk between him and a scumbuddy in my game.

What power would scum need against two neighbors? That’s barely any town power.

Plus what does RC gain from saying scum have more power..? Seems net neutral

[farside]

Ok. Please explain why RC would lie about this?

Multiple reasons.
1: To dissuade the notion that this game is mountainous and thus, that the scum MUST have an edge to compensate for this clear power.
2: To stern up further paranoia about probably-nonexistent cross-game plays/moves.
3: To allow for easy fabrication of a talk between him and a scumbuddy in my game.

What power would scum need against two neighbors? That’s barely any town power.

Any thoughts about scum for both games?
You think you might die, just get your thoughts out while you can.

[farside]

before I respond to some questions aimed at me I just want to say I am very close to PMing the listmods. I'm sick of this argument, it's gone way over the line and I like the players in this game and don't want it to end in replacements and bans.

I endorse this product and/or service.

[mastina]

Hint: your scumpartner told you it was L1 and to hammer.

This would work as a justification if not for the fact that I haven't checked my private topics once since logging in, except just before coming to this thread (in part because I log in by refreshing my private topics tab)--that was the last time I checked my PTs and not once have I been to that subforum since.

[We are not helping]

you have private topics? elaborate

-oka

[mastina]

mastina can you please refrain from posting as you catchup? no offense but your catchups take forever and bloat the thread and deny true real time interactions which is like quintessential 2020 ms.net meta

like i managed to eat lunch, watch some lectures, take a nap, and re catchup on this entire thread and you still haven't finished your catchup yet
-oka

You also haven't posted anything from said catchup now have you?

[Shuichi Saihara]

ok why not push the wagon there then? Vecna is already on there. Rn I don't really feel like you're doing anything to push the lynch away from Vecna to Shuichi if that's what you want.
(no this is not some sort of subtle attempt to get you to unvote me)

Would you vote Sushi with me?

There are ways to push the lynch off someone that aren't "push someone else" including appeals to spend more time in the game, summarize reasoning which I can argue against, etc.

-Stuxnet

Why don't you care that one of your heads is townreading me

[RadiantCowbells]

Auro in his own words doesn't care about other people's reads if they conflict with his own.