Warning long post from Greasy Spot so don't faint or nothing that might hurt you.
5. goborage replacing Rosso Carne, replacing ValiantValant
(Included replacements for clarity)
Some Rosso activity:
Rosso voted coheed in post 18 cause he voted DBE. Says don't mess with his girl.
Vount count - post 29
CoheedCambria09 (3) - Rosso Carne, DarlaBlueEyes, malthusis
(notice the other 2 scums)
Greasy Spot - (1) caf19
Shepherd_of_Wolves (1) - Amor
populartajo (1) - Travis
Rosso Carne (1) - Greasy Spot
malthusis (1) - CoheedCambria09
post 31 caf19 says "What's up with this teaming-up of Rosso and Darla? Unvote; vote: Rosso Carne obv"
post 34 malthius says "How do you get this? At worst it means that rosso is a stalker if anything. Darla didn't say anything about rosso. "
(defending by the scum buddy)
Goborage replaces Rosso Carne in post 89
POST 118 - goborage tells DBE to stop defending everybody.
Post 194 - Mac posted "For now stating who you'd be willing to lynch other than Smoke if it comes to that is probably good. If we do end up needing to shift the wagon, I'd probably be willing to go for DBE or goborage. The way DBE has been waffling about the Malthusis wagon is fairly scummy independent of his alignment as well as the defending thing, and I don't like goborage's lack of effort or his trying to define when is and is not good times to defend someone; seems pretty self serving to me."
Post 252 DBE makes this comment "Goborage -- seems pretty genuinely town, was scum hunting and actually thought about the lynch on smoke before bandwagoning, 80/20 town/scum"
Post 362 DBE says "Goborage - 70% town, Seems townie to me, very logical and scum hunting oriented. "
Post 397 goborage believes darlas miller claim.
Post 398 goborage warns her about quoting PMs.
Post 419 goborage says darlas case is a weak case. Says the case against me and populartajo is more scummy than DBE at the moment.
Post 439 DBE posts an analysis of the players and leaves out goborage.
Post 449 Mac says "Speaking of people I have scum reads on, I did some rereading and poking around at stuff here. At this point, I'm going to propose that the remaining scum are DBE and goborage.
Bulk of the case on DBE has been laid out a lot, I don't feel the need to go over it again.
Looking at goborage:
Day 1 he was pretty useless for the most part. Had to be prodded hard by multiple players to get him to do something as basic as laying out what he thought about people, and even then he was extremely reluctant and gave very little information - basically giving everyone a neutral read. Discusses theory a bit, but makes little effort to actually find scum. Hops on the Malth/OG wagon when I started pushing for a lynch before deadline.
Day 2 makes the WIFOM argument that scum would be off Malth's wagon to vote for populartajo. Very convenient stance to take if both he and buddy DBE got on that wagon to be visible helping lynch scum. He basically lurks through all of Day 2, making a total of 6 very short, noninformative posts, and carefully avoids saying anything about the two main wagons of the day, DBE and xofelf. While his reasons for attacking tajo early D2 are not entirely bad, I don't like the WIFOM, or the fact that he then just sat his vote there the rest of the day without commenting on anything else particularly. He also says "lynching [Greasy] for being anti-town is as good a reason as any," making the implication that Greasy is a good lynch for anti-town behavior even if he's not scum. This argument always makes me twitch.
Today, he's posted a bit more, but has done basically nothing except defend DBE and attack Greasy.
Basically he's been closemouthed, posting as little information as possible, and has made no real effort to figure out who the scum are, just gone along with a few cases where it was convenient, and ignored the rest of the game.
Now, let's look at connections:
Malth/gobo connections are limited at best.
Malth/DBE connections are well documented.
Gobo/DBE connections:
Early D1, gobo tells DBE he doesn't like how she's defending everyone, and suggests she stop. She does so immediately. Later says her defending is a null tell, and criticizes people FoSing her for it.
D2 he didn't say much of anything, about anyone, but supports a GS or tajo lynch over DBE.
Today he's still trying to keep DBE out of the noose, attacking the idea that she might have been investigated, and pointing to other players as scummier.
The connections coming from DBE are possibly more interesting.
DBE doesn't talk about gobo Day 1. At all. She replies to a post of his a couple times, but never says anything about him.
Day 2 She still mentions him only once, putting him as strongly town on her list of everyone, claiming he'd been legitimately scumhunting and thought about the OG lynch. Except he hasn't done any scumhunting, at all.
She's mentioned gobo a couple times today, all saying he seems very town, and again claiming that he's logical/scumhunting, which is very off.
Right now I'm seeing DBE and goborage as both individually quite scummy and fairly strongly linked to each other. I'm happy lynching either at this point. Vote stays on DBE for now since she already has a wagon.
Still mildly suspicious of tajo for his flipflop/aggressive attacking my case D1, and coheed for lurking/wagoning. Those are both starting to look more and more like long shots though. "
Post 466 Final Vote count for Day 3 had only darla and goborage voting me.
Post 486 Goborage claims doc. N1 I protected SoW. N2 I protected SoW. N3 I protected Mac.
Don't like this because why would you protect someone N3 after they called you out as scum in Post 449.
Alright we know from the deaths that we have 2 confirmed werewolves, a martyr, and a wolfhunter (Jack of all trades). If we believe that Gobo is a doc as he says then we also have a doc. It would stand to reason then that the wolves would have a wolf roleblocker. In most cases the roleblocker can not kill and roleblock the same night if he is the only one left. If Gobo is the doc and has been blocked then the wolf is waiting for us to lynch enough of the townies that he can win with a NK.
I'm not believing goborage's doc claim at all. I think he might be a roleblocker that either can't kill or can only do one or the other and not both during the night.
Before goborage claimed doc he was the lynch target for that day. That evidence against him hasn't changed. He is still as scummy as before. He just picked a good role to claim.
unvote
vote: goborage
So, If we have a no kill scum, then it would not hurt us to have a no lynch day. Because we can discuss the most likely scenario. We can all give a majority vote to a no lynch day to see what happens another night. The advantage to this is to see if we have a no kill. But, If we lynch today and some kills at night, then we have three alive. With another lynch then it comes to two players and scum win.