Jigsaw's Revenge - Game Over

[pisskop]

One issue with any plan that involves putting bm into a trap is that he actvely choose to give scum a power that we cant block.

Anyone here claimed doc lately? Those night kills are duty free

[Morning Tweet]

Have BM go in a self-incriminating trap
Pisskop!scum says that GL and TSE both advocated for BM's lynch.
Leave Morning alive, she's going to be upset with BM
Leave Ircher alive, he hard scumreads BM

It's a really simple and quick mislynch plan and then you win the game. I kinda thought that Ircher and myself were good candidates for the trap, not GuiltyLion/TSE/pisskop

this is probably pretty close to the mark. Incidentally the timing of when I've been trapped, also implicates ABR-scum.

BM I've gone the whole game thinking you're town. Why couldn't you have just let yourself die in that trap

I really want to believe that's actually what happened, but i'm so pissed off by how you played this game that it makes me just want you dead and let scum in that scenario win anyway.

[pisskop]

but I mean, besides that, none of the other trap victims have made a lot of sense.

Im fairly sure that GL had bitchin reads yesterday, and TSE was fixing to revive the game.

[Ircher]

To be more precise, what do you mean by "essentially confirmed town?

at the time I'd just single-handedly led a scum lynch from nothing, within my own hood (at a time when the unanimous view was that there was only 1 scum in our hood). So I was essentially conf-town, in that nobody in their right mind would be lynching me (as everyone else would have told you at the time...). But I had the added benefit of being able to actually influence things, whereas a hidden IC couldn't do that (and in a game full of cops and stuff, an IC isn't that powerful anyway...)

Overconfident perhaps, but reasonable nonetheless.

Have BM go in a self-incriminating trap
Pisskop!scum says that GL and TSE both advocated for BM's lynch.
Leave Morning alive, she's going to be upset with BM
Leave Ircher alive, he hard scumreads BM

It's a really simple and quick mislynch plan and then you win the game. I kinda thought that Ircher and myself were good candidates for the trap, not GuiltyLion/TSE/pisskop

Why would scum even put pisskop in a trap? Ircher seemed really obvious town yesterday. I had a lot of townreads on me too

GuiltyLion has night immunity! That was a risk. TSE confirms Vault as town when you kill him. The night choices are sort of weird. Unsure I'd let them change my mind yet though

These are good points as well.

[Albert B. Rampage]

It's okay MT. We all feel the same. Let's lynch him and all will be right in the world again.

[Morning Tweet]

One issue with any plan that involves putting bm into a trap is that he actvely choose to give scum a power that we cant block.

What do u mean by this?

[pisskop]

BM feels like a sinking ship of bluster that pulled one last move to try to further his wincon last night.

I really tried to believe that he was too scummy to be scum, but I think its all probably a front.

[Morning Tweet]

GL was against Bingle and dave. He also felt there was scum in {Fire, BM, Molla}. So I suppose its plausible that he said he believed BM was a bussing scum last night

[pisskop]

One issue with any plan that involves putting bm into a trap is that he actvely choose to give scum a power that we cant block.

What do u mean by this?

Do we have any docs?
Any claimed roleblockers?
Any jailers?

He just gave himself a 2shot nightkill that we cannot block.

We havent had a nightkill this game.

[pisskop]

GL was against Bingle and dave. He also felt there was scum in {Fire, BM, Molla}. So I suppose its plausible that he said he believed BM was a bussing scum last night

plausible? we spent a page and a half discussing it.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I'm vanilla town.

[Ircher]

BM thinks driving a scum lynch makes him confirmed town. He thinks he is equivalent to an IC.

thats def not true too btw.

Last game i saw him fake claim a cop guilty on an ally to lynch him.

I think we can all be proud of ourselves with a BM lynch whether he's scum or not lol. Policy lynch it with fire.

Wow, this post is bad. We don't have mislynches to afford on mere policy lynches.

BM feels like a sinking ship of bluster that pulled one last move to try to further his wincon last night.

I really tried to believe that he was too scummy to be scum, but I think its all probably a front.

Your recent posts aren't inspiring confidence in my (town)read of you. Please explain how your trap worked and what the precise choice was.

[Morning Tweet]

BM feels like a sinking ship of bluster that pulled one last move to try to further his wincon last night.

I really tried to believe that he was too scummy to be scum, but I think its all probably a front.

I don't think we would have lynched BM if he hadn't gone and done that. Why does scum!BM do it? It's an odd move to be sure

GL was against Bingle and dave. He also felt there was scum in {Fire, BM, Molla}. So I suppose its plausible that he said he believed BM was a bussing scum last night

plausible? we spent a page and a half discussing it.

I'm just trying to consider the game from a town!BM PoV right now. Basically the scenario I have in 3295 is the only way he's town

[pisskop]

to paraphrase the very first post from our trap:

God Dammit.
This would be allot easier if it was Black Mage or Eddie was in here.

I’m willing to bet we are all Town.
Because if one or both of you were scum I’d probably just be auto killed.

[Morning Tweet]

The game is over if BM is town, ABR. What do you make of that?

[Eddie Cane]

Why would scum even put pisskop in a trap? Ircher seemed really obvious town yesterday. I had a lot of townreads on me too

GuiltyLion has night immunity! That was a risk. TSE confirms Vault as town when you kill him. The night choices are sort of weird. Unsure I'd let them change my mind yet though

Depends how much autonomy scum has in picking who's trapped. Piss and TSE were not townie and GL claimed night immune, I can't imagine it's right for any team to pick those 3 if they have complete freedom.

[Ircher]

What makes you think scum can't choose freely?

[Ircher]

also now's a good time for anyone who hasn't claimed yet to claim. Half the game has already claimed anyway.

[Morning Tweet]

I'd say it's an issue of whether the scumteam is

Pisskop + {ABR,Fire,BB,dave,Bingle,Eddie} [Setting BM up]

or if its more something like

BM + Bingle + dave + Ircher? [BM suicide bomber]

Something like that anyway.

[Eddie Cane]

The amount of night kills that have happened each night seem pretty unbalanced if scum can choose freely every night. I'm not sure, just a theory.

[Morning Tweet]

Is BM ending up in traps that are perfect for someone who values themself highly just a coincidence, though?

[Eddie Cane]

I also think we might have lost the game regardless of hitting mafia today unless we can slow down the trap deaths. 11 alive, lynch scum to 10. 2 trap deaths + the third from mage goes to 7, 3v4. Lynch scum to 6, 1 trap death (wishful thinking) + 2nd from mage = 2v2, town loss. So BM might have just won the game with that play and it doesnt matter what else happens.

[Ircher]

VOTE: Davesaz

[Ircher]

And yeah, you're probably right that we've already lost.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Yeah this is pointless just quicklynch BM and gg.