Mini 622 - Mind Screw Mafia - Das ist alles!

[Tarhalindur]

"ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE."

Hmm... 27 hours... no posts... I wonder how annoyed your mod is right now? (Hint: moderately)

I'll be lenient for now, since activity stayed up over the weekend, but you're starting to tread on the thin ice that leads to short deadlines. - Tar

The Fortieth Vote Count (aka the "...But Where Have the Posts Gone?" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (0)
remussaidow (0)
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (1)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0) - Jex
iamausername (0) - remussaidow

Not Voting (8): Battousai, Grimmy (rep. Musher333), Cavebear with a toothache, Nocmen, Yosarian2, iamausername

Votes required to lynch: 5

FoS Count:

Battousai (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (1) - Battousai
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

~6:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, August 6, 2008.

First Mod Deadline Review:

~6:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, July 30, 2008.

[Grimmy]

Vote: remussaidow (Iam)

I do not think he is aligned with the town.

Grimmy

[iamausername]

Why?

Also, shouldn't it be voting Grimmy that leads to votes on me?

[Battousai]

I honestly do not think we should lynch either iamausername or yos until at least tomorrow. If yos is still around, then he lied. If iamausername is a lyncher of sorts and Yos isn't lieing, then iamausername will lose or might become one of the town.

Vote:Iamausername (remussaidow)

, to get him more active plus if we take out Yos and Iam from the lynching possibility today he is at the top of my list for scumminess.

[remussaidow]

I think you did that backward Batt.

Iam, no, voting me puts votes on you. Nice try though.

[iamausername]

Iam, no, voting me puts votes on you. Nice try though.

I think you should look at the votecount/rules again. Really, why would I even bother trying to lie about that?

And

Vote: Yosarian

[Grimmy]. I do not think he is aligned with the town.

[Battousai]

No, voting Iam puts votes on you. Voting Jex puts votes on me.... The list that depicts who votes who is on the first page, not the vote count.

[Grimmy]

vote: remussaidow

(I think that's who it has to be to hit Iam)

this is the post that I used as a template to get my vote on Iam.
it worked for him.

Grimmy
Is aligned with the town, while you are trying to make our wall pictures crooked.

[remussaidow]

look at rule 20, gentlemen.

[iamausername]

<20> Game-specific rule: If a player would vote for another player, that player will instead vote for the player directly below the intended votee in the player list.

Yosarian2
Grimmy (rep. Musher333)
iamausername
remussaidow
Nocmen
Cavebear with a toothache
Jex
Battousai

The player directly below remus is Nocmen, not me.

I'd still like more of an explanation as to why you don't believe I'm aligned with the town, Grimmy.

[Battousai]

This is a stupid argument, just look at the vote count. You have a vote on nocmen right now....

Rule 20 says player list, not vote count. Two different lists.

[remussaidow]

and it says vote below, not vote above. Jex has a vote on nocmen right now, not me.
And why do you think that I'm scum?

[iamausername]

If you're this determined to keep your vote on Nocmen, I think you should make a case against him.

[remussaidow]

in that case, fine. Though I do believe that my votes on iam,

unvote vote grimmy

[Battousai]

I wondered when you would ask me that. Note that I never explicitly said you were scum, but were at the top of my list (minus Yos/Iam).

Here is the reason I have you at the top of my list:

Ok, just wanted to make sure you didn't say this to prove your towniness (and to help pass the mod review ).

Tar: Is it against the rules to state your character name?

Role name is the one and only part of the role PM that may be directly quoted. - Tar

If not, then I think we should have a mass name claim. Now I know some of you have stated that you don't like it, but I feel it could help us later rather than help the scum. If your against it, state your reason why and if your for it just say you are (majority yes then I say we do it, and vice versa.)

I suggested this, trying to get some reactions. The main reaction worth noteing was yours:

vote: mafiaSSK

(batt)

I'm against the mass claim because scum could have fake claims, and then that leaves the scum with far far more info than the town. That's just not really terribly sensible, and it seems to me like you might be trying to dig for info, especially seeing as Jenter's role had a little bit of game flavor in it- as someone pointed out that the rules to the game that he was from were to be kept hidden, and poof, now that he's dead, no longer hidden.

The reason being "His vote seemed different. He put me at half majority for that one remark. His vote seemed like a bandwagon vote, since 2 people had already back to back voted me. To me that seems like he placed his vote thinking that others would vote me right away or that I would be lynched soon. His reasoning seemed accusatory, like he actually thinks I'm scum just as much as iamausername thinks mafiaSSK is scum."

Also, earlier you posted these contradictory (to your above quote) statements:

well, that does seem to lend credence to the idea that role names have a significance, doesn't it?

I'm just saying it might be useful. not def will be, but might be.

[Tarhalindur]

"Why didn't you just say 'death ray'?"

The Fortieth Vote Count (aka the "Eureka!" Vote Count):

Vote Count:

Battousai (0)
remussaidow (0) - Grimmy (rep. Musher333)
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (2) - remussaidow
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0)
Nocmen (1)
Yosarian2 (0) - Jex, Iamausername
iamausername (1)

Not Voting (8): Battousai, Cavebear with a toothache, Nocmen, Yosarian2

Votes required to lynch: 5

FoS Count:

Battousai (0)
remussaidow (0)
MafiaSSK (0)
Grimmy (rep. Musher333) (1) - Battousai
Macavenger (0)
Cavebear with a toothache (0)
Jex (0) - Battousai
Nocmen (0)
Yosarian2 (0)
iamausername (0)

Current Deadline:

~6:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, August 6, 2008.

First Mod Deadline Review:

~6:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, July 30, 2008.

Please no errors, please no errors... dammit, errors fixed... DAMMIT, MORE ERRORS FIXED... please no errors... please no errors...

[Grimmy]

Doesnt my vote count?

Grimmy
feels left out

[Battousai]

Tar just messed up, he has you not voting AND voting.

This confusion brought to you courtesy of your mod screwing up the vote count. Again and again and again (please note the italics at the bottom of the count). - Tar

[remussaidow]

well. I was saying if there is correlation of names to role, then we can use that information as townies to helps us in our scum hunting. HOWEVER this does not suggest the use of a mass claim. The two are mutually exclusive. Individual claims on days when multiple lynches seem possible, and hell desirable (meaning you want to be able to lynch two people, but since only one will be lynched...) we can use the name claims to determine more information about them then. Mass amounts of information that's just handed to the scum is not a good thing.

[Nocmen]

I think I'm missing something. There seems to be something in remus's logic that just doesn't make sense, that seems to be obscure in his full goals of what is going on with it.

[remussaidow]

because I said single claims reveal less information to scum than mass claims?

[Grimmy]

I'd still like more of an explanation as to why you don't believe I'm aligned with the town, Grimmy.

I personally do not beleive that the role of a lyncher is town-aligned.

Grimmy
taking his rope from him

[iamausername]

That's not actually a remotely valid reason to vote for me.

a) I'm not a lyncher.
b) Even if I was, then I would lose at the end of today as long as Yosarian wasn't lynched, so lynching me is pointless overkill and wastes a lynch that we could be using on mafia.

[Grimmy]

That's not actually a remotely valid reason to vote for me.

a) I'm not a lyncher.
b) Even if I was, then I would lose at the end of today as long as Yosarian wasn't lynched, so lynching me is pointless overkill and wastes a lynch that we could be using on mafia.

thanks for reminding me.

I also did not like both of you stating how pointless it is to lynch you.
Tha also seems anti-town to me.

Also, what may be vaild for ME may not be valid for you. I accept that, and hope you can too.

Grimmy
peacefully calling for your death

[iamausername]

Well, yes, clearly it's in

your

interest for us to not lynch mafia today.