Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[Korts]

Has k7 confirmed that part, though? I remember asking, but I don't remember him replying.

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FaerieLord (1): Korts
ashmite84 (1): TheSweatpantsNinja

Not voting (19): iamausername, skitzer, Wintermute, forbiddanlight, somestrangeflea, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, Alabaska J, farside22, ting =), DarlaBlueEyes, FaerieLord, Lord Gurgi, Cream147, Riceballtail, goborage, populartajo, ashmite84

[forbiddanlight]

@forbiddanlight: if we lynch K7 then we lose valuable info about Peach being kidnapped. If/when she is kidnapped for real (assuming FL and K7 are telling the truth), K7 will be able to give us the kidnapper's name.

That's the incredible problem though. We have to trust them. Doesn't this ping your "too good to be true"dar? I really, REALLY don't like it. Now, I mean, I can understand hesitancy (hell, I'm not even voting him yet because I need to make sure I'm not completely screwing us with this train of thought), but so far, the only argument against is the benefit of K7 living if he and FL are telling the truth. If they are scum who cooked up this plan to make SURE we don't find bowser, we've lost.

Hm, I see what you're saying. But by lynching him, we lose a great asset for the town if he isn't lying. The risk/reward ratio isn't so good here

The risk of losing the game is worth it?

[Alabaska J]

I think finding Bowser is gonna be a lot of WIFOM and there is basically no way we can win, unless K7 and FL are telling the truth, in which case it doesn't matter who we lynch because Peach hasn't been kidnapped so we don't lose. I think WITHOUT K7's role this game would basically be impossible to win if Peach was kidnapped early on like she may have been today.

Anyone else agree?

[Alabaska J]

Also, because K7's role is so critical, I would prefer that he be given a star than me protecting him because of the risk of scum power.

[forbiddanlight]

I think finding Bowser is gonna be a lot of WIFOM and there is basically no way we can win, unless K7 and FL are telling the truth, in which case it doesn't matter who we lynch because Peach hasn't been kidnapped so we don't lose. I think WITHOUT K7's role this game would basically be impossible to win if Peach was kidnapped early on like she may have been today.

That's a better argument I think. It doesn't alleviate my concerns much, but it does make me see why it might be a bad idea to go for the lynch. I'm ambivalent about my idea now.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

And if he isnt a toad and is BSing the PM (its close but not exact) then why would THAT be a MK?

I think I missed something :S

Well, usually pretending to quote a PM is good enough to get you killed. But in any case, the fact that its wrong is good enough for me to want that to be the lynch.

Also, because K7's role is so critical, I would prefer that he be given a star than me protecting him because of the risk of scum power.

I agree.

Alright, I'm thinking about it...and I'm beginning to wonder if the best play might be to lynch K7. Wait, hear me out. If he's honestly what he says he is, then the lynch won't lose us the game. However, the claim he made is perfect for bowser, so by lynching him it might save the game after all. Course, there's probably some gaping hole in this idea...I just thought I'd put it out there.

I already said this, but let me repeat: If K7 is lying, then faerielord is almost certainly also lying. So what you're suggesting is that k7 and fl, rather than relying on the, again,

20 in 21

chance that we would pick the wrong lynch, decided to put both of their necks on the line.

And I don't think its too good to be true. Would it really be fair to us if the scum, by virtue of simply picking the right person to nk, could win the game, with a very slim chance of us being able to save ourselves? So I'm not at all surprised that there's a role to counterbalance that.

[populartajo]

People that havent given coins to me yet please do it.

[forbiddanlight]

I already said this, but let me repeat: If K7 is lying, then faerielord is almost certainly also lying. So what you're suggesting is that k7 and fl, rather than relying on the, again, 20 in 21 chance that we would pick the wrong lynch, decided to put both of their necks on the line.

And I don't think its too good to be true. Would it really be fair to us if the scum, by virtue of simply picking the right person to nk, could win the game, with a very slim chance of us being able to save ourselves? So I'm not at all surprised that there's a role to counterbalance that.

Fair enough. I just wanted thoughts on it because I was worried. I sometimes get paranoid about things like this. It's clearly a no, and that's fine because I was iffy on it anyway.

However, I will state that why rely on a 20 in 21 chance when you can seal the deal with a bucket of WIFOM like might be potentially happening?

[Korts]

I would give you my coins, pop, except I don't have none.

[Lawrencelot]

ashmite84's claim came close to (fake or not) role pm quoting, but reading it again, I say it did not come close enough to modkill him. Saying you're a Toad should be enough, but the "(Mushroom Kingdom)" part was general info, only the flavour wasn't. Next time someone claims, keep the flavour to a minimum, just say your name and any actions you have (coins and items can be claimed too) and only use flavour to explain these actions, without using the exact flavour text. If you want to be sure you're not modkilled, pm me with your claim first.

ashmite84's faction gets a warning, next time someone of his faction does something close to breaking rules, I will be less lenient.

[Lawrencelot]

Give one coin to popular.

Transaction succesful. goborage loses 1 coin and populartajo gains 1 coin.

give one coin to popular

Transaction succesful. forbiddanlight loses 1 coin and populartajo gains 1 coin.

Give two (2) coins to pop

Transaction succesful. Gremwell loses 2 coins and populartajo gains 2 coins.

give one (1) coin to Pop

Transaction succesful. DarlaBlueEyes loses 1 coin and populartajo gains 1 coin.

Edit: small mistake fixed

[somestrangeflea]

Give 2 coins to populartajo

[somestrangeflea]

Also

I would give you my coins, pop, except

I don't have none.

This means you do have some.

FLEA - EXPLOITING DOUBLE NEGATIVES SINCE NOW

[Korts]

Drats! Foiled again! But remember: in Soviet Russia, double negatives exploit you!

[Lawrencelot]

Give 2 coins to populartajo

Transaction succesful. somestrangeflea loses 2 coins and populartajo gains 2 coins.

[Alabaska J]

Drats! Foiled again! But remember: in Soviet Russia, double negatives exploit you!

lol

Also, how many coins should I give pop, if any? I'd like to be able to doc people still.

[Surye]

I have no coins.

Give: 1 coin to populartojo

[Alabaska J]

how has this died.

Still waiting for input on coins.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

I'd say you're our last choice to give out coins, but ideally, we'd have enough to give both k7 and pop stars tonight.

I'm not sure how many both of them have right now.

[FaerieLord]

I wish I could give but being kidnapped means I have no coins and no (real) vote.

[Lawrencelot]

Give: 1 coin to populartojo

Transaction failed.

[Lord Gurgi]

Give: One (1) coin to populartajo

Not that I have any, but it's worth a go.

[Lawrencelot]

Give: One (1) coin to populartajo

Transaction failed.

[goborage]

I wish I could give but being kidnapped means I have no coins and no (real) vote.

Try anyways. Anyways, if K7 and FL are off the block who are we looking at?

Btw I don't support an ashmite lynch.

[TheSweatpantsNinja]

Btw I don't support an ashmite lynch.

Really. Because usually when I see someone try to fake a role PM, that means they're

lying scum.

So you're going to need something pretty good to overcome that.

What do you got?