Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[midwaybear]

i do agree with tux that beeboy has fluffed a lot, but maybe it's because he's drunk which isn't AI

[Nahdia]

Nahdia why do you think that post by me was scum?

uhhh actually i misread it. i thought it said you were getting no pings on anyone, not that you were townreading them. my impression was that you were excusing yourself from forming reads

VOTE: beeboy

[Clover Ebi]

Is fluff posting Ai though is the real question we should be discussing.
pedit: Oh okay carry on

[Dunnstral]

a lot of people don't openly admit their pushes are weak early on. It's actually funny sometimes how big the gap between how good the push is and how confident someone is about it. I think he was playing it up in an attempt to sort you, so it doesn't really make sense to see it as town!Dunn backs down and scum!dunn doubles down

I was pushing what was available at the time. This is fair analysis

@Lilith/Votato/Skitter. Are your votes on Dunnstral real? Do you think he's coming out of the gate swinging on Skitter like this as scum? That just seems pretty bold if you ask me.

I endorse this sentiment

Skitter/Lilith/Votato are so eager to scumread me

[Nahdia]

im getting weird vibes

was there gonna be any followup to this

@dunn asked you a question earlier. do you still stand by the reasoning you gave for the early skitter push? is there any more context?

[Clover Ebi]

Is fluff posting Ai though is the real question we should be discussing.
pedit: Oh okay carry on

Btw I think the answer to this is no

[Dunnstral]

How do I say this properly...

Lilith I looked at your back and forth with Dunn and I think you're a bit tunneled/focused on him too much. Like, if Dunn is scum I doubt a lot of the reasons you're calling him scum went through his head and was an action he decided to consciously take as scum. That's just, so much early game when really it isn't needed at all.

am i tunneled/focused on dunn too much?

I looked at your iso again and it seems very reasonable/open. You're talking to others and taking other angles that don't involve Dunn. I don't think you're tunneled atm.
@Midway Wah? Huh? I just like the emojis! :(

Really cause it seems she's only talking about me

@dunn asked you a question earlier. do you still stand by the reasoning you gave for the early skitter push? is there any more context?

My push made sense on page 1 (rvs, didn't want to vote votato)

Then skitter/lilith/votato reacted to it like crazy and it kept going

[beeboy]

im getting weird vibes

was there gonna be any followup to this

@dunn asked you a question earlier. do you still stand by the reasoning you gave for the early skitter push? is there any more context?

Nahdia why do you think that post by me was scum?

uhhh actually i misread it. i thought it said you were getting no pings on anyone, not that you were townreading them. my impression was that you were excusing yourself from forming reads

VOTE: beeboy

Why?

[Dunnstral]

It's not my only take but it's the one I wanted to start with.

Spoiler:

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

None of those are Hey heys but I'll read up.

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

Hi!!!! you remind me of some pokemon games!

The Radja ones or something else o:

My hey heys have been satisfied.

By nature Dunnstral is a very reserved scum. I have only seen him play scum once since my return where he matched that playstyle I expected. So I want to say he is town even if his skitter push is a bit odd

Beeboy's first five posts are nothing. And I consider them a deliberate distraction because he actually demands they get attention and responses. After the thread has slowed down to just say hi and talk about fluff with him then he jumps in with a weak defense of Dunnstral.

Like he doesn't say that this game is different from scum Dunnstral he's seen. He says that "by nature" Dunnstral scum doesn't play like this. Implying he's almost incapable of it, and it's based on only one game. It feels much stronger than evidence supports.

Do you think I'm town then?

[Dunnstral]

trying to delineate between these arguments feels pretty forced to me. skitter actively chose to use exclamation points in a way that is uncommon for her.

Yep, that's what I'm on about

[Dunnstral]

@Dunnstral how do you feel about Beeboy?

Not enough info to have a good read there yet

[Dunnstral]

hi sorry i intended to enter the game in earnest earlier but a lot happened today. was kinda hoping someone would react to my first post but i guess you all just don't care about me. i see how it is.

dunnstral how serious was your early push on skitter? do you still stand by that reasoning you gave?
skitter's reaction to dunn's push is kinda towny imo.

blah blah blah

Am I the only one who is getting like, no scum pings from Dunnstral/Skitter/Lilith/Votato? I got townie pings from the first 3 and nothing from Votato. Just me? Okay.

scumposting.

VOTE: Clover Ebi

Nope Clover is towny.

I explained the skitter thing, I don't think their reaction is towny.

[Dunnstral]

UNVOTE: Clover Ebi

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[Dunnstral]

Tux's entrance is very similar to dunnstral's because they both picked bad reasons to scumread someone.

HAHAAHAHAHA

[Nahdia]

im getting weird vibes

was there gonna be any followup to this

@dunn asked you a question earlier. do you still stand by the reasoning you gave for the early skitter push? is there any more context?

Nahdia why do you think that post by me was scum?

uhhh actually i misread it. i thought it said you were getting no pings on anyone, not that you were townreading them. my impression was that you were excusing yourself from forming reads

VOTE: beeboy

Why?

overreaction to tux.

[skitter30]

or if they just hopped on with a defense of Dunn it probably wouldn't have stuck out,

but the two together feels calculated

(?).

i disagree and i don't get what you're trying to say either
like i think the entire argument doesn't make much sense

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scumposting.

VOTE: Clover Ebi

i'm not sure that scum make a point of not picking a side there tho?
like it would have been p easy to just say 'skitter is scum' and vote me, or say 'dunn is scum' and vote him
whereas by saying he explicitly does not scumread anyone in that group he's kinda making the obvious pushes harder to hop onto, if that makes sense

uhhh actually i misread it. i thought it said you were getting no pings on anyone, not that you were townreading them. my impression was that you were excusing yourself from forming reads

VOTE: beeboy

eh ok
why vote beeboy?

overreaction to tux.

didn't think it was an overaction

=

i think beeboy is townie
i'm having gutscumpings on nahdia rn

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Then skitter/lilith/votato reacted to it like crazy and it kept going

bad reaction

Yep, that's what I'm on about

you still haven't explained why 'exclamation points being uncommon for me' and ' being a vote-worthy behavior

[drusilla]

This would be the play, find a hole then build a read around the hole you saw.

could you answer this please:

Why is there a 25 minute gap between your initial read and the elaboration to it without new information?

Basically what I am getting at is your retroactively justifying a read based on my thread opening.

do you think the elaboration was due to your/votato's reaction to the original post?

was kinda hoping someone would react to my first post but i guess you all just don't care about me. i see how it is.

just gonna say this from the top and maybe ill do better sticking to it: im going to be making an effort to limit the hours in which im an active participant in this game. i enjoy mafia a lot but i also find it exhausting when im constantly thinking about it which leads to apathy. please do me a big favor and yell at me if you notice im posting in the thread all throughout the day. i will be happier and honestly probably better/more engaged in this game if i can practice a little restraint.

why share this? i understand the logic of holding yourself to that but do you have an expectation of others actually discouraging you from posting throughout the day?

additionally, what sort of reactions were you hoping for?

[Morning Tweet]

Like how does what I’ve said constitute “stirring up both sides”?

@Votato @MT I spoke about why I disagreed with you on this and I am wondering why you think she is playing both sides.

Ehh she kind of made points against both skitts and Dunn. She said she was paranoid of how excited skitts seems but also voted Dunn and said scum's play doesn't have to be optimal (referring to Dunn)

Overall i dont find it scummy, probably it's towny since she was being fair to both sides and not just picking one side and tunneling it, which i'd find more scummy.

Also, clover ebi is using a lot of emojis. I think this could be because he is nervous and paranoid about his posts.

HEY! that can be hurtful (lll-ω-)

Also, wtf -- this comes a bit after Lilith started a push on Clover that votato joined. You didnt mention Clover in your catchup post. what prompted you to theorize out of the blue that clover is using emojis to hide nervousness? Just seeing a couple of emojis?

[Dunnstral]

you still haven't explained why 'exclamation points being uncommon for me' and ' being a vote-worthy behavior

Because it's a fake persona.

[skitter30]

i don't especially want to rehash this again
but that doesn't really mean anything either

also gut townpings on mt

[Dunnstral]

Yeah I don't want to talk about this anymore

I did explain it though

[Morning Tweet]

Wow, sorry I'm so late to the party guys. This game is moving fast. I don't like Beeboy's entrance at all. It seems to try and derail the momentum building on Dunn, before swinging into to defend him when he starts posting content. What's up with that? Why did you want people to say hi so much?

VOTE: Beeboy

Wait, so you're scumreading beeboy for trying to get ppl to say hi? is this gonna be the dunn scumreading exclamation mark thing again?

It's not my only take but it's the one I wanted to start with.

Spoiler:

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

None of those are Hey heys but I'll read up.

I am waiting for someone to say hey hey back before I play >:(

Hi!!!! you remind me of some pokemon games!

The Radja ones or something else o:

My hey heys have been satisfied.

By nature Dunnstral is a very reserved scum. I have only seen him play scum once since my return where he matched that playstyle I expected. So I want to say he is town even if his skitter push is a bit odd

Beeboy's first five posts are nothing. And I consider them a deliberate distraction because he actually demands they get attention and responses. After the thread has slowed down to just say hi and talk about fluff with him then he jumps in with a weak defense of Dunnstral.

Like he doesn't say that this game is different from scum Dunnstral he's seen. He says that "by nature" Dunnstral scum doesn't play like this. Implying he's almost incapable of it, and it's based on only one game. It feels much stronger than evidence supports.

@Votato are you having fun this game?

This is the first time i'm not getting townpings from Tux's entrance to a game (we've played two where we've both been town prior). Yeah beeboy's first five posts are mostly nothing. Calling them a deliberate distraction is a HUGE stretch in my opinion. why would scum!beeboy feel the need to interrupt RVS interactions?

[Hoctac]

There

[Hoctac]

once

[Hoctac]

was