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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:44 am

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Good job, town.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:01 pm

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Day Three dawns sadly in our little town. Maxwellhouse lies dead in the town square. Beside him, you find his badge - "Maxwellhouse - Town Cop".


With 8 alive, it is 5 to lynch.


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1. Cass
Tom

2. Wumbo
3. imaginality - Townie

4. Inspector Godot
5. chenhsi - Town Cop

6. Dark wingstalker - Mafia Godfather

7. nhat

8. maxwellhouse - Town Cop

9. StrangerCoug
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11. geraintm
12. Litral
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:25 pm

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Looking at Day 2 makes me want to
vote: Wumbo
. He only posted twice in Day 2, and of those I like #431 less. I'm not saying you had to believe the cop, but the way this is worded, the fact that maxwellhouse died last night, and his not talking as much as I want him to is pretty much the reasoning I have behind this.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:31 pm

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Okay, I've got some info.

Let me explain my role. I am a forensic investigator. Basically, I can investigate a player that had been NKed to see who targeted them. I had investigated imaginality and found that Inspector Godot had targeted him. Therefore...

vote - Inspector Godot
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:13 pm

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And you reveal this, now?
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:35 pm

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Battousai wrote:And you reveal this, now?
Well....yeah. I can only investigate during the night, so I couldn't do anything night one. I could only investigate imaginality the following night. Does this make sense?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:28 pm

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Sorry about the whole DWS defense. It'll bite me in the ass later.

Lucky I got the Godot thing right :P

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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:29 pm

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Litral wrote:Sorry about the whole DWS defense. It'll bite me in the ass later.
And you are still concerned about this because?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:06 pm

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Well... I did target Imaginality night 1, but it was most definitely not to kill him. If I have to roleclaim I will, but I'd like more information on your role nhat. It seems pretty powerful.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:18 pm

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Actually, I may as well roleclaim. Way I see it I have no other choice.


I am a Reporter. I choose one player and the next day I am told in a PM whether or not that player was home. I do not receive any additional information, I am just told if the person was home or not.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:44 pm

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Nhat, is it possible from your role that Godot isn't scum? For example, did you receive two names, or would you have received two names?
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Litral wrote:Sorry about the whole DWS defense. It'll bite me in the ass later.
And you are still concerned about this because?
I don't see why not?
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:50 pm

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The PM was very specific in saying that I'd receive the names of all those who had actions against the one investigated.

I only got back one name.

Nice try on the reporter claim though.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:08 pm

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nhat, that seems a very powerful role. you get a confirmation a day late of who killed anyone.
so your role can wait and see if the player was town or not, and then go and invesigate them and see who targeted them. seems more powerful than cop to me!

cougar, that was an insanely quick vote, before anyone had chance to come in with their night results, unless you know something, either through a action or scumminess
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:26 pm

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geraintm wrote:cougar, that was an insanely quick vote, before anyone had chance to come in with their night results, unless you know something, either through a action or scumminess
24 minutes seems plenty enough for one to visit the thread, realize that the cop died and to come up with something new.

The case we have here is that at least one of Godot and nhat is scum. I think we should be focusing on this for now.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:46 pm

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he has had time to go to other threads, post there and then come back and not comment on the various claims. i just wanted to note that i found his eagerness noteworthy.
agree though nhat/godot is more interesting

am inclined to believe nhat, the fact that godot didnt mention which players he targetted and whether they were home or not so no one as of yet can cross check his claim is suspiscous
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:33 am

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So either nhat or godot is scum it appears. I've been suspicious of nhat since d2. Like cass, nhat voted max instead of DWS. It was bad play mainly, why vote to lynch the unconfirmed cop when you could wait and see if he's telling the truth first (by lynching his target or my method). Then it turned into scummy when it was revealed that DWS was the mafia godfather. I see it as him trying to not to get DWS lynched. I will have to read D1 closer and see who did what on the original DWS wagon.

Nhat: I get that now, I was thinking you would have had the result yesterday.

Geraintm: There are a few reasons why godot hasn't revealed who he investigated, but I want to hear it from him.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:50 am

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I like Battousai's logic, and I'm trying to figure out who had serious doubts about the second cop. Buddying up towards Dark wingstalker, maybe?

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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:32 am

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If there are two town cops, how is it scummy to doubt the second one? There was no way a townie could have known it was true. Seems more scummy to me to
not
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There are a few reasons why godot hasn't revealed who he investigated, but I want to hear it from him.
This. I want either good reasons, or night actions. Nhats role does seem less likely. Both true is impossible. There do seem to be a lot of investigators in this town, either way...

If Nhat is scum, that would mean a watcher or tracker type role among the scum, right? If Godot is scum, the town has a really high number of investigative roles. I don't know what's the more probable scenario.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:42 am

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Unvote: Cass
Vote: nhat
That should read
Unvote: Wumbo
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Vote: nhat
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:18 am

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This is what I got from the DWS wagon and posts after D1:



nhat placed first vote on DWS- l-1 vote

Wumbo placed second right after- l-1 vote, bad reason

Godot defended DWS's l-1 vote as getting wumbo to talk, but thinks wumbo is protown

strangercoug votes DWS (third vote)- contradiction in reasoning of vote

DWS trys to switch pressure onto Litral for l-1 wumbo (was wrong, wasn't l-1)

geraintm states he thinks DWS is an enthusastic newbie

Godot comes back, says DWS, chenshi and wumbo are a bit suspicious

DWS harps on nhat in one of his defenses

Godot comments on DWS's mafia never hammer comment- "Using such an obvious WIFOM seems very suspicious. Surely if you were to use it you could try and disguise it?"

godot says chenshi is only suspicious through gut feeling

StrangerCoug unvotes DWS, votes nhat based on DWS's case against him

wumbo unvotes DWS to allevate pressure because of his recent posts

litral, post 203 basically states DWS's anti-town statements are unintentional

chenshi acts scummy (so most people switching over to putting pressure on chenshi is justified)

cass replaces in, says DWS actions aren't something scum would do, "unless he was trying to quicklynch wumbo"

godot votes chenshi- "After doing some research on Chenhsi in other threads, I'm actually going to vote for him. I'd rather take a chance and lynch a townie that contributes nothing then sit around waiting for the deadline to come."

I left off things concerning dead townies. I think I got everything that was pertinent to the wagon and DWS. From this, nhat looks more protown than godot.

Therefore
vote: godot
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:22 am

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Cass wrote:If there are two town cops, how is it scummy to doubt the second one? There was no way a townie could have known it was true. Seems more scummy to me to
not
doubt the claim.
I said it was bad play that turned into scummy once DWS flipped, BECAUSE both you and godot VOTED. Everyone should have had doubts to the legitimacy of max's claim (except scum), but voting him even though his alignment COULD BE PROVEN was just wrong.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:45 am

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I'm not familiar with forensic investigations... nhat, can you also get who killed max and subsequently every other player?
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:08 am

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So, you want my actions?

Night 1: Investigated imaginality. Obviously he was home. I investigated him because he was the most pro-town player in my point and if he was away from home I would have pegged him as a power role. Of course, he could have also been mafia or serial killer or some other scum role but eh.

Night 2: Investigated Wumbo. He hasn't posted much and I was interested to see if he was a scum trying to go under the radar or possibly a power role keeping quiet. Unfortunately I was told that he was at home, so I guess he's just a normal townie.


Anyway, with regards to nhat's role it seems really powerful, especially considering we've had two cops and all. I guess if I want to stay alive I have to
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:11 am

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Ok, after that post I'll
Unvote
Vote : Godot


Wth? Seems really powerful? Aren't you forgetting: completely contradicts your claim?

I don't see why you left those actions out of your earlier post. I think you're scum.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:43 am

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Inspector Godot wrote:Night 1: Investigated imaginality. Obviously he was home. I investigated him because he was the most pro-town player in my point and if he was away from home I would have pegged him as a power role. Of course, he could have also been mafia or serial killer or some other scum role but eh.
I don't like this. Investigating a player you thought was likely pro-town in an attempt to get a power role? I don't think so.

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Inspector Godot wrote:Night 2: Investigated Wumbo. He hasn't posted much and I was interested to see if he was a scum trying to go under the radar or possibly a power role keeping quiet. Unfortunately I was told that he was at home, so I guess he's just a normal townie.
I was wondering about Wumbo, actually.
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