Grand Idea GPick [Game Over]

[Porkens]

I’m not following, effort saver was your role right?

[farside22]

I’m not following, effort saver was your role right?

yes it was.
It has that roles that would win are deathproof.

[Porkens]

Effort Saver
Roles that end the game when they win cannot win until Day 2 or later. They are deathproof until Day 2 to compensate.

This one, right?

That slot would end the game if they won so they were lynchproof. Am I missing something here?

[Porkens]

Oh that also explains no kill night 1 duh

[farside22]

Effort Saver
Roles that end the game when they win cannot win until Day 2 or later. They are deathproof until Day 2 to compensate.

This one, right?

That slot would end the game if they won so they were lynchproof. Am I missing something here?

No, but the player that was lynched was the werewolf and it had nothing about being lynch proff, nor does it make sense that them dying would win them anything. That is why I think there is a lyncher.
I should ask the mod but the last time I asked he was pretty vague about stuff.

[Porkens]

“Roles that end the day when they win...are unkillable until day 2”

I might be reading it wrong

[Porkens]

End the game*

[Morning Tweet]

[Sure I'll go with Ico on this one probably. I suppose it'd be bad if we let a scum Pork get away with that gambit eh?]

[So many loose ends. I suppose D1/N1 can be explained by farside's role if I assume Chateau or TSE is something weird like a showstopper condemner I guess. I still am doubting it LIKE WHAT ARE THE ODDS]

[but i will go with the conf town]

[Morning Tweet]

[farside not instahammering pork makes me feel better about her too]

[Morning Tweet]

[Here's what i dont get: If Pork is the final scum here, why would he not kill last night? Framing Chateau by claiming to roleblock him, getting Chateau exiled, and killing Ico gets him to this lylo:]

[Morning, farside, TSE, Pork]

[Which I would think is losing for Pork. Hopefully. I don't know. Perhaps he was happy with that chance i guess. If he killed Ico last night I guess his odds of being exiled today would go up by a TON]

[Porkens]

Exactly. I mean it doesn’t really matter but I’d love to be alive for the win, so let’s hang chateau at least

[Porkens]

Ugh the problem is tomorrow you are going to have to lynch correctly between cl and TSE or it’ll be game, assuming not alien. I guess it probably works out to roughly the same but I don’t want to leave that oportunity wife open. If we hang cl and he’s town, I’m dead tomorrow. That gives the win to TSE. THE THINGNIS TSEs claim has the most wiggle room.

I’m just worried that town is going to lose and it’ll be my fault because of my twilight wifom. so I can’t just say go for it it doesn’t matter. I need you all to realize that my role is not fala or. The green card, the night actions, it’s too many moving parts to be feasibly made up. I thought I was helping with my interference but it could actually cost us the game.

Scum TSE totally holsters here. But the razor says it’s CL. I really really want to hang cl. That ~should~ end the game. It’s also totally possible that there are two scum left in which case we will have to dance this dance all over again tomorrow.

[Porkens]

But I doubt it. If I’m wrong on CL then it’s this dance all over again.

[Porkens]

But again, razor says it’s CL

[Iconeum]

Ugh the problem is tomorrow you are going to have to lynch correctly between cl and TSE or it’ll be game, assuming not alien. I guess it probably works out to roughly the same but I don’t want to leave that oportunity wife open. If we hang cl and he’s town, I’m dead tomorrow. That gives the win to TSE. THE THINGNIS TSEs claim has the most wiggle room.

I’m just worried that town is going to lose and it’ll be my fault because of my twilight wifom. so I can’t just say go for it it doesn’t matter. I need you all to realize that my role is not fala or. The green card, the night actions, it’s too many moving parts to be feasibly made up. I thought I was helping with my interference but it could actually cost us the game.

Scum TSE totally holsters here. But the razor says it’s CL. I really really want to hang cl. That ~should~ end the game. It’s also totally possible that there are two scum left in which case we will have to dance this dance all over again tomorrow.

if the game isn't over with your lynch, and you flip town, there's a ++chance you actually did block a nightkill so it's gonna be pretty Obvious who we are executing next

[Porkens]

TSE scum 100% holsters in this situation.

[TrueSoulEnergy]

I’m not scum.
I’m not Condemner either.
I am Knowledgable Townie.

[Porkens]

Great, then vote CL

[farside22]

TSE scum 100% holsters in this situation.

That just seems silly to me. Tse as part of the mafia makes sense given scum knew roles in the game and its an easy fake claim from there. Cl and tse could be scum together.

[Iconeum]

if there's 2 scumboi left then we lose if we lynch porkens and he ain't one of them, right?

i don't see why 2 scum wouldn't have killed last night

they were informed where the rb would be so --chance of that happening

the theory of the simplest explanation is that porkens is just not town here

[Iconeum]

if there's multiple scum left outside of porkens, i'll take the loss

otherwise, even if he flips town, we have a clear lynch come tomorrow

[Chateau Lobby]

TSE scum 100% holsters in this situation.

Tse as part of the mafia makes sense given scum knew roles in the game and its an easy fake claim from there.

You could substitute porkens for TSE in that statement and it still makes 100% sense.

I think claiming page numbers is useful for spotting fakeclaiming scum later.

Also, this setup might have as little as 3 town. We need all the help we can get.

The problems is that puts us in a situation where some scum could comfortably tell the truth with their page number and some town may feel forced to lie.

On the plus side, I think your reasoning makes your suggestion feel more faulty than scummy.

Imagine that Boring is scum and therefore knew all of the roles... then read this statement.

Then we get Porkens first post:

Okay guys, I just checked TSE's meta. As much as I hate to say this, I think he might be telling the truth. He's always like this. Like, I haven't even found a scum game yet, just 4 town games in a row of this.

Good morning

I shot drew; you’re welcome.

Also there are no aliens in this game, and bingle is conftown

I think scum!Porkens maybe somehow found out bingle's role and this his nod to bingle. I searched the roles thread and found an alien traitor role which fits this statement as well.

And then he claims werewolf??? So somehow boring/porkens can be connected to all 3 non town factions here.

[Chateau Lobby]

EBWOP

Don't know why post 718 got quoted there.

[Porkens]

TSE scum 100% holsters in this situation.

That just seems silly to me. Tse as part of the mafia makes sense given scum knew roles in the game and its an easy fake claim from there. Cl and tse could be scum together.

You got me I’m an alien mafia werewolf.

Boring copped bungle and got a not-mafia result.
I pushed my pet aliens theory and advocated for Titus hung for pages.

If two aligned killing scum are left, they kill last night. In that case CL dsubmitte the kill = no kill
If twos disaligned then one could holster or not have a factional kill or both
In either case where there are two scum left, CL is 0ne of them.

With 0ne scum again it’s mechanics vs play.

[farside22]

Works for me.

VOTE: pork