Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[Morning Tweet]

Dunn had to leave Dru alive.
I was actively pushing the idea town had too much power.

The distraction was needed.

But she still flipped, so from Dunn’s pov, what possible difference does it make? But if you read Dru ISO. it definitely does from Clover’s.

My point is that if you’re scum!Dunn trying to cause a distraction by not killing Dru, how helpful is it really if she still gets flipped? Otoh, it’s definitely to Clover’s advantage not to directly kill her.

A nightkill is something Dunn can directly control. The exile he cannot.

[beeboy]

But she still flipped, so from Dunn’s pov, what possible difference does it make? But if you read Dru ISO. it definitely does from Clover’s.

My point is that if you’re scum!Dunn trying to cause a distraction by not killing Dru, how helpful is it really if she still gets flipped? Otoh, it’s definitely to Clover’s advantage not to directly kill her.

I don't actually think Dunn is scum that much I really think it could be either Clover or Dunn.
I just don't want you to jump through hoops in f3 to vote someone Dunn claimed an inno on.
Or rationalize a world in which Dunn faked a guilty on someone.

Like I don't want to read an entire ISO to ensure that :/

[beeboy]

No lynch doesn't lower the number of exiles Dunn needs.

He always needed exactly 3 to win.
With or without the no kill.

Killing Dru and not letting her be exiled increases that number by 1, thus making it that much harder for him to win.

[beeboy]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

[Raven Branwen]

No, you all are missing my point. You’re saying that scum!Dunn didn’t NK Dru to create a distraction from the whole stacked town thing. My counter is that she still got flipped. so it didn’t really help Dunn not to kill herbut since Dru waz suspecting Clover until D4, it actually was in his interest to not directly kill her and unlike Dunn. bee eventual flip doesn’t hurt him at all. With Dunn, it’s the flip in general that looks bad, not if he had NK’d her or not, which is why I’m saying it points to Clover being scum over Dunn.

[Hectic]

@mod is no pressure 3 or 4 votes to hammer?

3.

[beeboy]

I am not saying Dunn is scum.
I am saying it's a world that I believe no lynching and trusting results is worth playing around.

[Morning Tweet]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

Yea basically

I'm guessing Dunn claims an innocent on Beeboy tomorrow. You can get rid of Clover first, but you HAVE to kill Dunn after that if it doesn't end the game. Do not let Dunn get away with a fake guilty or fake inno

[Raven Branwen]

But she still flipped, so from Dunn’s pov, what possible difference does it make? But if you read Dru ISO. it definitely does from Clover’s.

My point is that if you’re scum!Dunn trying to cause a distraction by not killing Dru, how helpful is it really if she still gets flipped? Otoh, it’s definitely to Clover’s advantage not to directly kill her.

I don't actually think Dunn is scum that much I really think it could be either Clover or Dunn.
I just don't want you to jump through hoops in f3 to vote someone Dunn claimed an inno on.
Or rationalize a world in which Dunn faked a guilty on someone.

Like I don't want to read an entire ISO to ensure that :/

Dunn claimed an inno on Clover N2, where Dru saw that Chara was the only one to have visited Kanna, therefore that inno is null and void, because WE FREAKING KNOW CHARA KILLED KANNA.

[beeboy]

I think we have a plan that involves forcing Dunn into a 1v1.
If Dunn says Clover is town you kill me then him.
If Dunn says Clover is scum you kill clover then him.

I don't think their is a world in which the result gets tampered with and you kill me and clover.

Alll I am saying is we trust the results and don't deviate since their is a chance of Dunn being scum for what MT said.

[Morning Tweet]

But she still flipped, so from Dunn’s pov, what possible difference does it make? But if you read Dru ISO. it definitely does from Clover’s.

My point is that if you’re scum!Dunn trying to cause a distraction by not killing Dru, how helpful is it really if she still gets flipped? Otoh, it’s definitely to Clover’s advantage not to directly kill her.

I don't actually think Dunn is scum that much I really think it could be either Clover or Dunn.
I just don't want you to jump through hoops in f3 to vote someone Dunn claimed an inno on.
Or rationalize a world in which Dunn faked a guilty on someone.

Like I don't want to read an entire ISO to ensure that :/

Dunn claimed an inno on Clover N2, where Dru saw that Chara was the only one to have visited Kanna, therefore that inno is null and void, because WE FREAKING KNOW CHARA KILLED KANNA.

No not Clover N2. He means whoever Dunn claims an inno on tomorrow. Cause that one is guaranteed correct

[Dunnstral]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

Yea basically

I'm guessing Dunn claims an innocent on Beeboy tomorrow. You can get rid of Clover first, but you HAVE to kill Dunn after that if it doesn't end the game. Do not let Dunn get away with a fake guilty or fake inno

What? I wasn't planning on checking bee

[beeboy]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

[beeboy]

^ Dunnstral verify this is correct.

[Morning Tweet]

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

Yea basically

I'm guessing Dunn claims an innocent on Beeboy tomorrow. You can get rid of Clover first, but you HAVE to kill Dunn after that if it doesn't end the game. Do not let Dunn get away with a fake guilty or fake inno

What? I wasn't planning on checking bee

Okay then you get an innocent on Clover tomorrow, we exile Bee, and if that doesn't end the game, we exile you

Likewise, if you get a guilty on Clover, and that doesn't end the game, we exile you.

@Raven

as long as you follow this there is no chance of failure ^^^^

[beeboy]

@Raven please verify you understand the above so we can move to the fast night tonight so Hectic can day start tomorrow ^^^^^

[Raven Branwen]

I am not saying Dunn is scum.
I am saying it's a world that I believe no lynching and trusting results is worth playing around.

Raven you do understand that if Dunn claims an incorrect result that you have to kill him right?
That's like the only thing me and MT are worried about tbh.

Yea basically

I'm guessing Dunn claims an innocent on Beeboy tomorrow. You can get rid of Clover first, but you HAVE to kill Dunn after that if it doesn't end the game. Do not let Dunn get away with a fake guilty or fake inno

You guys do what you want. Your argument for Dunn scum is basically that he didn’t kill Dru for the town stacked thing. My argument is that she still got flipped anyway, so Dru not being NK’d didn’t really help scum!Dunn but since Clover was Dru’s pick for last mafia D3, Dru being mislynched > being NK’d definitely would help scum!Clover.

[Dunnstral]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

That is correct, except it also means they didn't kill n1

[Clover Ebi]

VOTE: no pressure

[Morning Tweet]

It doesn't really matter if we figure out who is scum inside Clover/Dunn/Beeboy. I would argue it's Dunn but I can see possibly Clover, and no chance of Beeboy. Still, we can check out all 3 by NLing

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: No Pressure

Clover n everyone please fast night!!!

[beeboy]

FAST NIGHT EVERYONE THANK YOU

[Raven Branwen]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

Hallelujah, someone is getting it.

[Raven Branwen]

Clover not submitting a kill n2 means literally nothing.
We know Tux submitted the kill n2?

It's not an inno.

That is correct, except it also means they didn't kill n1

Explain this? Your results only clear me N1, correct?

[Morning Tweet]

The ability applies to the night of and the previous night