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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:18 am

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Ydrasse
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(4):
Almost50 (), Titus (), Menalque (), Eevee ()
Menalque
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Montosh (), RCEnigma (), Ydrasse ()
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:26 pm

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Now I'm back to the same position where I don't like either of the major wagon and we're close to deadline :/
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:48 pm

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Raya, then why have you been sitting on NV? Who do you want?
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:49 pm

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I mean the Menalque wagon lacks a single conftown so yeah
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:51 pm

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She literally just unvoted lol

Raya can you talk to me about Ydrasse? It seems like the source for you saying you share an alignment with her was a Snowblaze post saying that she didn't think there would be one on Mohab and one off, and that's why she thought you and Ydrasse were the same alignment, but obviously that logic can't hold now if you think one-on one-off is likely. So why do you townread Ydrasse?
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:57 pm

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In post 1552, Titus wrote:Raya, then why have you been sitting on NV? Who do you want?
I just unvoted at the bottom of the last page. I think I want A50 or Montosh honestly. I'm not really feeling RCE anymore
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:57 pm

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In post 1553, Titus wrote:I mean the Menalque wagon lacks a single conftown so yeah
Good observation. Maybe that's a sign scum is ok with this lynch?
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:00 pm

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In post 1554, Something_Smart wrote:She literally just unvoted lol

Raya can you talk to me about Ydrasse? It seems like the source for you saying you share an alignment with her was a Snowblaze post saying that she didn't think there would be one on Mohab and one off, and that's why she thought you and Ydrasse were the same alignment, but obviously that logic can't hold now if you think one-on one-off is likely. So why do you townread Ydrasse?
Actually you're right. That's a flaw in my logic I missed. I guess I can no longer clear ydrasse for that reason.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:50 pm

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Okay okay I promised I'd read so now here I am reading
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm

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In post 1553, Titus wrote:I mean the Menalque wagon lacks a single conftown so yeah
Eevee's been pushing Menalque all day (need to see why he stopped actually?).
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:27 pm

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Well, on and off
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:36 pm

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I've decided I hate both these wagons. I hate the Ydrasse wagon a bit less and can jump on if it's between her and Menalque. I'd prefer literally any of {Montosh, A50, RCE} unless someone explains to me why all of them are town.
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:45 pm

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In post 1559, Umlaut wrote:
In post 1553, Titus wrote:I mean the Menalque wagon lacks a single conftown so yeah
Eevee's been pushing Menalque all day (need to see why he stopped actually?).
More accurately, eevee has been flip flopping on my slot all day

They’ve stopped because eve has handed the reins over to eva who is happier with ydrasse than with me
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:46 pm

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Please see for why I think scum is more likely to have double bussed than to have double defended here, gimme a sec and I’ll find the argument against it on why scum is more likely to be on the snow wagon than the mae wagon

I sort of think 1 on 1 off is the most likely currently, but I think it makes more sense for scum to double bus there than to both limp on the CW
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:47 pm

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In post 1428, Eevee wrote:throwing Ydrasse overboard would be a disaster - her recent posts are genuine and the tone would be hard to fake as scum

we have an easy route to victory here by targetting the snow wagon and misthrowing someone on the Maemuki wagon makes this unnecessarily difficult

remember - snow was kinda obvtown when she was high efforting towards the end while Mohab was compeltely absent - i refuse to believe snow would be so neck and neck with Maemuki/Mohab in terms of votes without a lot of drive from scum on it
there's no world where both scum were bussing based on that and i even think it's kind of unlikely 1 scum was so let's stick to the plan please

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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:50 pm

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VOTE: Ydrasse

Don't say I never did anything for you.
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:16 pm

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@Umlaut, why do you not like the Ydrasse wagon and what do you think of this?
In post 1493, Eevee wrote:I think Ydrasse is pretty competent as scum and nothing she's said here is out of the realm of what she can do.

That said, there are a few posts I dislike independently, for example which I feel is her going to a predetermined conclusion. Her A50 push has also taken most of the day, which gives her scum equity with a lot of people. Her recent stances/vote hopping is concerning.

I'm probably leaning there today and will try to make Eve sheep me by bribing her with PokePuffs.

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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:18 pm

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Or A50?

I’m starting to wonder if I wrote him off too quickly, but on a readback, I didn’t find him as scummy.

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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:24 pm

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Kind of getting cold feet if I’m honest; I feel like this Ydrasse wagon was mainly advocated by me and I don’t know how good my reads are.

However, I feel like there’s enough scrambling from the gamestate that there’s a chance this is right?

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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:27 pm

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It’s not just you; titus and I have also both been actively advocating for ydrasse for a while now
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:33 pm

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That does give me some confidence.

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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:51 pm

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In post 1557, Raya36 wrote:Actually you're right. That's a flaw in my logic I missed. I guess I can no longer clear ydrasse for that reason.
Why did you accept that logic to begin with? Just because it came from conftown?
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:20 pm

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i'm gonna be real, at this point i'm kind of accepting that i'm going to be the elimination for the day and there's not much i can do about it.

i still don't know how the vca implicates me most of all when my vote on snowblaze came after talking to her and getting her to give more content and talk more. it wasn't without reason that my reads changed on her and moved onto mohab/mae. i'm biased because it's my own posting but i feel that those efforts should actually be taken into consideration instead of... timing? that it was somehow more misplaced compared to raya/s_s?

if i'm not hammered tomorrow i'll type up More than just this but at this point it's coming up on eod and i don't see things shifting. i genuinely think that people should revisit a50/mena tomorrow and vote in those two. i skimmed over raya and the way that she goes about everything is either just a) scum being lowkey and coasting on a general sense of being townread today by virtue of people thinking her opening this game was good or b) town who isn't interesting in pushing hard on anything in particular and more of a go with the flow mentality, though not for lack of content and reads. just not as loud about them, i suppose. i still think she's more of a paranoia option fmpov.
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:21 pm

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VOTE: almost50

ultimately i could have just been ate'd down by a50 and i want my vote here for posterity.
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:21 pm

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In post 1573, Ydrasse wrote:VOTE: almost50

ultimately i could have just been ate'd down by a50 and i want my vote here for posterity.
i also feel like i shot myself in the foot with the way i went about going hard for a50 for a while there. sorry town.
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