Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:21 am

korts wrote: I believe FaerieLord's claim, which means that we are in no direct danger; however, k7's role is something that would break the game in favor of town. I don't buy his claim, yet starring him will let him live if he's saying the truth, no?

How would it break the game? Scum can still beat us like they would it in any other game. My thinking was until k7 revealed his role was that the game was broken in favor of scum.

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goborage (2): Riceballtail, iamausername
FaerieLord (1): Korts
ashmite84 (1): TheSweatpantsNinja
DarlaBlueEyes (1): populartajo

Not voting (16): skitzer, Wintermute, forbiddanlight, somestrangeflea, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, Alabaska J, farside22, ting =), DarlaBlueEyes, FaerieLord, Lord Gurgi, Cream147, goborage, ashmite84

With 21 alive it takes 11 real votes to lynch.

Korts · Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:30 am

I'd say it's swingier without a role like the one k7's claimed, but not broken by far, since scum's chances of hitting the princess are pretty low. k7's role would break the game because scum would lose Bowser the day after they'd kidnapped the princess, and with Bowser, their NK opportunity too.

Gremwell · Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:04 am

K7 would also be charged with the task of convincing enough of the town that he was toadsworth and had the correct information on a lylo day, I don't think it's broken

Korts · Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:05 am

Gremwell wrote:K7 would also be charged with the task of convincing enough of the town that he was toadsworth and had the correct information on a lylo day, I don't think it's broken

If he actually is Toadsworth, starring him tonight won't hurt.

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:26 am

korts wrote: k7's role would break the game because scum would lose Bowser the day after they'd kidnapped the princess, and with Bowser, their NK opportunity too.

I'm curious as to how you know that only bowser can send in nightkills. In fact, if anything, my interpretation is the opposite, that bowser can only send in kidnaps.

korts wrote: If he actually is Toadsworth, starring him tonight won't hurt.

Unfortunately, him being NK'd

will

hurt. Quite a lot. And don't you think he might be a bit of a scum magnet?

somestrangeflea · Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:30 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
korts wrote: If he actually is Toadsworth, starring him tonight won't hurt.
Unfortunately, him being NK'd
will
hurt. Quite a lot. And don't you think he might be a bit of a scum magnet?

Uhm, if he's telling the truth, he won't die.

Cream147 · Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:37 am

I just thought of something. Don't give me coins for a feather. I currently have a mushroom on me, so I won't be able to get one.

Korts · Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:44 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
korts wrote: k7's role would break the game because scum would lose Bowser the day after they'd kidnapped the princess, and with Bowser, their NK opportunity too.
I'm curious as to how you know that only bowser can send in nightkills. In fact, if anything, my interpretation is the opposite, that bowser can only send in kidnaps.

The way I interpret it, Bowser's kill is a kidnap in the case of the princess. I just assume that since there was only one NK every night so far, the scum have a fix NK as opposed to having to buy fireflowers.

FaerieLord · Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:30 pm

iam wrote:Thanks. That's so helpful.

Err...should have been 1 coin. Sorry :p

Korts wrote:The way I interpret it, Bowser's kill is a kidnap in the case of the princess. I just assume that since there was only one NK every night so far, the scum have a fix NK as opposed to having to buy fireflowers.

My interpretation is like TSPNs (Bowser only kidnaps) but I'm not certain

FaerieLord · Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:31 pm

Clarifying previous post "I had more / less than 1 coin" (I had 3, which is why there was confusion)

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:41 am

ssf wrote: Uhm, if he's telling the truth, he won't die.

The star won't. But scum could. And, you would think, should.

korts wrote: The way I interpret it, Bowser's kill is a kidnap in the case of the princess. I just assume that since there was only one NK every night so far, the scum have a fix NK as opposed to having to buy fireflowers.

Since there seems to be at least three scumgroups, we're either preventing a lot of kills, or scum do have to buy their kills.

somestrangeflea · Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:44 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
ssf wrote: Uhm, if he's telling the truth, he won't die.
The star won't. But scum could. And, you would think, should.

Guh. I misread your post.

populartajo · Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:04 pm

I think that scum has to buy their kills. Only Bowser's Army can send a free NK (kidnapping). Thats why I think that scum either have :
a) a lot of coins.
b) a way to produce coins.

K7, no one is going to get a star today. We are only going to feather people and protect you so Id like that you give me all your coins to distribute them.

DarlaBlueEyes · Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:45 pm

Just as proof (this will fail)

give one (1) coin to populartajo

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:28 pm

populartajo wrote:K7, no one is going to get a star today. We are only going to feather people and protect you so Id like that you give me all your coins to distribute them.

Whoa. K7 is so much more valuable than you. Which is nothing personal. . . but why the hell aren't we giving him a star? We should be getting him a star.

populartajo · Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:53 pm

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
populartajo wrote:K7, no one is going to get a star today. We are only going to feather people and protect you so Id like that you give me all your coins to distribute them.
Whoa. K7 is so much more valuable than you. Which is nothing personal. . . but why the hell aren't we giving him a star? We should be getting him a star.

fair enough but i definetely think that we should feather as much as possible.
I have a question. If K7 gets a star tonight, aka isnt killed and scum for some reason kidnappes Peach, would he know who kidnapped her, aka Bowser?
How can scum deal with this situation?

Lawrencelot · Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:08 am

DarlaBlueEyes wrote:
give one (1) coin to populartajo

Transaction failed.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:01 am

TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
populartajo wrote:K7, no one is going to get a star today. We are only going to feather people and protect you so Id like that you give me all your coins to distribute them.
Whoa. K7 is so much more valuable than you. Which is nothing personal. . . but why the hell aren't we giving him a star? We should be getting him a star.

He is...provided he tells the truth. I know, I know, the argument against him doing this as scum. It's all WIFOM, and I still don't like it. IIRC, FL claimed first...he could have bounced off that to claim his role. I mean, I understand not lynching him but I'd rather keep the mod confirmed innocent here and somehow test our claimant rather than just let him be invulnerable forever.

Gremwell · Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:32 am

forbiddanlight wrote:
TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:
populartajo wrote:K7, no one is going to get a star today. We are only going to feather people and protect you so Id like that you give me all your coins to distribute them.
Whoa. K7 is so much more valuable than you. Which is nothing personal. . . but why the hell aren't we giving him a star? We should be getting him a star.
He is...provided he tells the truth. I know, I know, the argument against him doing this as scum. It's all WIFOM, and I still don't like it. IIRC, FL claimed first...he could have bounced off that to claim his role. I mean, I understand not lynching him but I'd rather keep the mod confirmed innocent here and somehow test our claimant rather than just let him be invulnerable forever.

somebody feathers him tonight, its that simple

TheSweatpantsNinja · Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:16 am

populartajo wrote: If K7 gets a star tonight, aka isnt killed and scum for some reason kidnappes Peach, would he know who kidnapped her, aka Bowser?

You'd think they'd

try to kill him.

forbiddanlight wrote: I mean, I understand not lynching him but I'd rather keep the mod confirmed innocent here and somehow test our claimant rather than just let him be invulnerable forever.

Gremwell is right. We investigate him.

Gremwell · Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:21 am

pop should do it so we're 100% sure

forbiddanlight · Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:28 am

Gremwell is right. We investigate him.

This is fair. I like it. Is there anyway we can afford stars for both of them? It'd be unpleasant to see a feather go to waste cause our investigator or the investigated died (not to mention the other losses)

Gremwell · Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:30 am

have the doc protect him, he cant use two items

forbiddanlight · Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 5:34 am

have the doc protect him, he cant use two items

Ah, that's true. So, star for K7, doc protect on pop taj, and feather for pop taj?

FaerieLord · Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:28 pm

That should work fl.