Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

[The Bulge]

I'm speaking hypothetically

EVs, statistical probabilities, etc etc it's all objective and an incredibly easy way for scum to control the narrative of a game when the logical/emotional flow of the game does not suit them.

[Joey_]

I'm speaking hypothetically

EVs, statistical probabilities, etc etc it's all objective and an incredibly easy way for scum to control the narrative of a game when the logical/emotional flow of the game does not suit them.

I am very aware. Why can't it also be a tool used by town?

[The Bulge]

town effort or scum effort hmmm who can say

[Joey_]

town effort or scum effort hmmm who can say

I mean, i saw that.

You implied/said my post was “simply EV”
I said you misrepped me = no, my post was not only EV
Then you mansplain me “objectivey, EV is used by scum”

We aren’t really talking objectively, are we? Its not mafiascum wiki, there’s intent behind my post.
You dodged my point saying that you didn’t correctly represented my post by explaining why thinking EV can be scum indicative and distanciated yourself from that read using “hypothetically”

So now, thinking you are biased towards EV being used by scum, I gave you the BotD and askedyou ;
“Hypothetically”, why wouldn’t it be used by town?

Then you answer by quoting your half shade of “town effort or scum effort” which, like you said, didn’t read the post and was based off you assuming I “simply” did EV, thats circular logic

You deflected me accusing you of misrepping my post then it felt like you took every chance you could get to jam some shade in your answers.

[Joey_]

Anyways, off to work bois

[The Bulge]

I wasn't even talking to you i was asking mala why she gave you town points. "hypothetically" is not distancing, it's what my post was, that much was obvious from the language i used.

[The Bulge]

You implied/said my post was “simply EV”
I said you misrepped me = no, my post was not only EV
Then you mansplain me “objectivey, EV is used by scum”

while we're talking misreps this is not at all what i said

[The Bulge]

your defensiveness is noted however

[davesaz]

PR, popcorn The Bulge.

[davesaz]

Can't tell if my comment about not trusting an IC in a previous game was misinterpreted or misrepresented. Someone was an IC and was doing something I thought was silly -- I voted them to try to get them back on track. It made quite the stir that game.
It has been long enough that I'd have to comb through my games to find it again.
The moral of the story is self-meta, I literally trust nobody without a flip.

[The Bulge]

vt, go dram

[AGar]

[Almost50]

Oh! We're claiming. :/

I'll wait for my turn.

[dramonic]

vt
almost I guess?

[Almost50]

*Sigh* I'm a VT.

Popcorn SirCakez

[SirCakez]

dave and A50 are putting out a lot of "content" but it's almost all crap Joey
What's the towniness you're getting from the content?

Got any town reads you're willing to put a reason to?

Dunn is fine
The Bulge has an obnoxious playstyle but probably town
and elements I guess? the slot feels v lynchbaity

I have a big null pile which is killing me

dave and A50 are putting out a lot of "content" but it's almost all crap Joey
What's the towniness you're getting from the content?

Well, I think consistency in-and-out of itself is a hard trait to maintain as scum. I don't really agree with the content but I read for the thought processes. I think a50 went above and beyond many time where he spammed 3-4 savage town posts a minute appart. Its hard stuff to do as mefia

For dave, I am less certain. The content is w/e, it's not like I expect to agree with them. Tho, when I was reading, I was starting to scumread them until I saw my pred hard townread on them, then I assumed I was overthinking and went back to my initial read on them. I think one of his worst post in the game is the ''i am the town leader and this is bullshit'' one. I have no doubt that dave is a great player and from memory, like I said, he was better as t. Tho this game, he's not the beacon of I light I thought he would be. Could it be explained because this is a hard game? Maybe because it's been 2-3 years since I played with them? Maybe I am rusty? idk.

I might try to play this game out of gut rather than head since it's multiball tho

do you have experience with A50? his spam-posts are NAI, he's super good
With Dave I just get a lot of indignance and "scum who is mad they are being scumread" vibes from his posts
like his reaction to my last set of posts for example
and I'm not getting any "town leader" vibes

I'm a VT popcorn AGar

[davesaz]

You're getting PR who is annoyed they're being scumread.

As for leading, aside from your latest post I'm the only one in the game who has come close to reading more than half the playerlist. Damn right I'm indignant.

[Dunnstral]

I'd have preferred that we didn't claim today but it looks like we're too far in now

[Dunnstral]

And agar shut me down instantly with "don't self meta" and then ignored me and called me scum so

What do you think of aGar?

IDK

[Almost50]

You can claim before AGar if you wish. It's not like someone can fakeclaim PR and get away with it with all 4 still alive

[dramonic]

You're getting PR who is annoyed they're being scumread.

Cuz PRs are so town this game

[Joey_]

your defensiveness is noted however

At the time it felt like lazy shades and with bad logic. I didn’t really explained well what I meant since I was going to work and had no time left, shrugs

@hoot hoot i dislike that you still haven’t produced anything related to any slot outside dave even when proded multiple times.

Out of everyone’s rxn from the last few pages, buldge/cakez/dave’s looks like town to me, hm

@cakez; i have at least 5+ completed games with a50 and always ended up hard townreading him correctly but for better reasons than i tr him this game. Could you link me some of his s games I am lazy

[Joey_]

Also a heads up; my scheduled this week is extremely packed so I souldn’t, in theory, be as active. If I show up here too often it means I am procratinating so please tell me to go back to work

[Dunnstral]

You can claim before AGar if you wish. It's not like someone can fakeclaim PR and get away with it with all 4 still alive

I don't think anti-town are at all likely to fakeclaim mason/monk, so does order really matter vs getting masons and monks to claim

[The Bulge]

do we know for sure if the Prs flip?