While that's fair, I'm hardly alone in this game in being a little inscrutable.In post 1973, Servant Lancer wrote:It's difficult to learn your motivations when you dont communicate them. Explaining it now is well and good, but that's easy to do when you have so much distance from the original action.
I don't think you forgot about any scumreads, the posts were literally back to back, so suggesting that that would be the problem were you scum feels is arguing against something I didn't suggest to begin with. Deciding to pressure Ruler there feels pointless, especially when it's nothing but putting a vote out there with no attempts to move others in that direction. What were you hoping to get out of the vote?
Because I feel accomplishing anything without his approval will be pretty difficult.In post 1978, Servant Lancer wrote:Why did Assassin's opinion on who to eliminate matter to you when you still believed strongly that Shielder was scum? And what prompted you to move back to Shielder?
I'm just lazy and gut-oriented.In post 1978, Servant Lancer wrote:but most of the time you look like you're purposely being opaque.
Be well foreigner.
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Plausible.In post 1981, Servant Caster wrote:I'm just lazy and gut-oriented.In post 1978, Servant Lancer wrote:but most of the time you look like you're purposely being opaque.
The start.In post 1986, Servant Foreigner wrote:Where should I start reading from? Don't say the start.
I already am.In post 1987, Servant Beast wrote:The start.In post 1986, Servant Foreigner wrote:Where should I start reading from? Don't say the start.
Or just vote shielder
Nice role fishing buddy. I recommend this question not be answered by Servant Alter EgoIn post 1989, Servant Moon Cancer wrote:Do you think there are zero investigative abilities in this game or something?
This was the post I gave to servant saber when they subbed in: 1453In post 1986, Servant Foreigner wrote:Where should I start reading from? Don't say the start.
No you misunderstand.In post 1964, Servant Rider wrote:2. The claim of being a commuter with a friend. According to Shielder, they can commute both themselves and another player but that any actions targeting Shielder go through. This makes no sense. If that's the case, they're not commuting themselves, but force commuting someone else. If there's some kind of caveat (e.g. Shielder themselves cannot be killed but can be targeted by investigatives/protects/whatever) it's unclear what that is. It is clear, however, that some caveat exists, or Shielder would have simply said "I commute other people".
I'd like all of you to examine your abilities vs. the flavor of your chosen servant on the FGO wiki to see if Shielder's claim is im/plausible.
In post 1963, Servant Rider wrote:So, I did some digging around into Shielder's claim. I'd like to do a nice side by side comparison, but I lack the desire to make infographics so text will have to do. This is the first of several posts about the topics at hand and has been broken up so as not to wall anyone to death.
Exalted Impervious Wall of Snowflakes: commute 1 other player together that night, me and them are immune to all but what they target me with can still go through (Shielder claim)
Exalted Impervious Wall of Snowflakes: Increases party's defense for 3 turns. Reduces party's damage taken by 2000 for 1 attack. (FGO Wiki, found here.)
Obscurant Wall of Chalk One-shot: target 1 player they get a noble phantasm charge and are jailkept for 1 night (Shielder claim)
Obscurant Wall of Chalk: Grants one ally's Invincibility for 1 turn. Charges their NP gauge. (FGO Wiki, found here.)
Shield of Rousing Resolution: if 7 or more townies are alive, I gain 2 noble phantasm charges instead of 1 at start of day phase. I think this is a passive ability (Shielder claim)
Shield of Rousing Resolution: 500% Chance to draw attention of all enemies to self for 1 turn. Increases own NP generation rate for 1 turn. (FGO Wiki, found here.)
Lord Camelot - Fortress of the Distant Utopia (****) when using this I dont lose charges. can talk during the night phase when used (Shielder claim)
Lord Camelot - Fortress of the Distant Utopia: Reduces party's damage taken for 3 turns. Increases party's attack by 30% except herself for 3 turns. Increases party's defense for 3 turns. (FGO Wiki, found here.)
Shielder's claim seems to hold up to my scrutiny. I think all of the claimed abilities plausible to likely, with the exception of Lord Camelot - Fortress of the Distant Utopia, which I see as unlikely... but confirmableIn post 1964, Servant Rider wrote:The problems I have:
1. The flavor/game text does not line up well with the claimed abilities. Obscurant wall of chalk is fine, but the first ability, third ability, and noble phantasm do not. My roles and abilities match either the in game text or the name of the ability, and in my opinion the abilities claimed above do not. Shield of Rousing Resolution and Lord Camelot in particular strike me as odd. While SoRR has an NP gain component in it, its primary task is to redirect actions to the shielder (i.e. a taunt mechanic). It's also not a passive ability. Lord Camelot also is a very strange mechanic and has little to do with either the name or the in-game effect.
