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[Gamma Emerald]

^Does Iconeum usually lurk as scum? Or is that just a general lurkadurp scumread?

I think I just had a game with scum him where he was rather quiet until pressed on it
He says he has weekend V/LA but it's not the weekend so that's not an excuse rn

which game was that?

i do have standing weekend vla's, but that's only saturday and sundays

i'm so ashamed...

Kids With Lungs
Feel free to call me a stinky dodo brain if I mixed up your alignment

[Gamma Emerald]

but here I just felt like making a joke about it.

11 sorta makes me think this wasn't a joke.

but also

VOTE: echovision
Serious vote of my own.

you aren't using your words so either you are scum that's pretending like they are doing things by throwing down a forceful naked vote or you are massively unhelpful town.

I was joking about it because I wanted to move past it
And like, I was trying to pressure EV to not be rando but that didn't work it seems
still feel like voting there since I don't really know why EV is doing what he's doing and it's not a thing that I can see waved away by a "weird =/= scum" line

if i start out by playing like a dip shit then i don't have to explain myself to people which is significantly less work for me and it's so fantastic
i can just read the thread and have some fun by extending my self-rvs until i find something to bite on

Or we can vote you out for deliberately obfuscating your motives

[Gamma Emerald]

bump

kekekeke

[Iconeum]

omg rude

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn’t plan that but I’m laughing that it happened

[Iconeum]

^Does Iconeum usually lurk as scum? Or is that just a general lurkadurp scumread?

I think I just had a game with scum him where he was rather quiet until pressed on it
He says he has weekend V/LA but it's not the weekend so that's not an excuse rn

which game was that?

i do have standing weekend vla's, but that's only saturday and sundays

i'm so ashamed...

Kids With Lungs
Feel free to call me a stinky dodo brain if I mixed up your alignment

oh right! yeah i was scum with the magical bear

but i quickly glanced at that game and I saw that I had the second most posts in that game, number 1 being my scum buddy
ofcourse that doesn't really cover your point of being silent until pressed on, but I also don't think it compares like this game where I was just… not here?

[Iconeum]

gamma/tris/testa are early townreads

alchemist and vision… not so much

[UnaBombaH]

why vote for me if you're just going to ignore me?

I'm not ignoring you?
At least I didn't intend to, sorry if it felt like that.

I just chose not to explain my vote on you in a very micro/macro level because I feel like it should've been clear what my reasoning was.

[UnaBombaH]

I somehow have an idea in my mind that Alch should be a big brain player? Right?
But is it the same as either alignment?

[Egix96]

alc vote tris with us

Nah, don’t think I will.

Yeah. So what do you think of the wagon on tris? Are you town/null on tris and do you think the tris voters are legit with their votes? Why don't you want to go there?

I think it’s the kind of wagon that forms on people who

screw around

and people don’t get the joke. Tris’s behavior is probably more likely Town than scum. Will look closer at the voters when I’m not tired; right now all that stands out is the one person voting them 4 times.

I wouldn't really say that's what Tris was doing though, more like... flopping? Idk, I'm reluctant to call it flailing since I agree with your second sentence. If anything, it's Echo who was mucking about by spamvoting her.

You agree with my read but it doesn’t sound like your reason is the same, so what are you Townreading from Tris? Can you elaborate on why you Townread 89

I was thinking that scum wouldn't forget that they hadn't moved their vote.

[Egix96]

but here I just felt like making a joke about it.

11 sorta makes me think this wasn't a joke.

but also

VOTE: echovision
Serious vote of my own.

you aren't using your words so either you are scum that's pretending like they are doing things by throwing down a forceful naked vote or you are massively unhelpful town.

I was joking about it because I wanted to move past it
And like, I was trying to pressure EV to not be rando but that didn't work it seems
still feel like voting there since I don't really know why EV is doing what he's doing and it's not a thing that I can see waved away by a "weird =/= scum" line

if i start out by playing like a dip shit then

i don't have to explain myself to people

which is significantly less work for me and it's so fantastic
i can just read the thread and have some fun by extending my self-rvs until i find something to bite on

That seems like it would be a luxury for scum, so how does it serve you as town?

[Datisi]

re tris 163:
maybe criticizing is an indirect way of asking about it, but the tone of "i don't see it, maybe you're scum tmi'ing" didn't sound interrogatory to me but maybe i'm projecting
though it's funny since i don't think i *can* explain it further than "37 and 53 are gut +town to me"

hi ico

184 ~ someone not named datisi? townreading iconeum??? on early day one?????

gamma/tris/testa are early townreads

alchemist and vision… not so much

why are gamma and testa town?

i don't wann vote tris anymore and this is where i'd jump on the alchemist train but that would put him on E-1 and that is Bad

VOTE: echovision hi can you explain your ico/una townreads please

[UnaBombaH]

i don't wann vote tris anymore and

this is where i'd jump on the alchemist train but that would put him on E-1 and that is Bad

Why is it bad?
You think it's likely for scum to lolhammer at this point of D1?
And even if they did, you think they'd get away with it?

This falls under a similar category with why I voted for tris earlier.
Over-explaining your reasonings and actions this early in the game pings me hard as scummy.

[Datisi]

You think it's likely for scum to lolhammer at this point of D1?

likely? no. plausible enough that i don't want to risk it when there's basically no reward? yes.

And even if they did, you think they'd get away with it?

they might not get out of rope tomorrow, but i don't fancy risking losing an entire day's worth of information. besides, if they hammered a bit later, they could pretend they were putting them on L-1, didn't see my vote, etc etc, and *could* get away with it. thanks no thanks.

[Iconeum]

184 ~ someone not named datisi? townreading iconeum??? on early day one?????

yes, it pinged me too

[Iconeum]

re testa and gamma: both for somewhat the reasons

gamma feels solvey and uncommitted at this point, while giving thoughts
tris as well, but has the added benefit of sharing my thoughts (rather, me sharing hers) wrt alch

[Iconeum]

i don't wann vote tris anymore and

this is where i'd jump on the alchemist train but that would put him on E-1 and that is Bad

Why is it bad?
You think it's likely for scum to lolhammer at this point of D1?
And even if they did, you think they'd get away with it?

This falls under a similar category with why I voted for tris earlier.
Over-explaining your reasonings and actions this early in the game pings me hard as scummy.

i don't consider that scummy at all

it feels like a genuine concern about the day ending prematurely
lolhammers *do* happen, accidental hammers *do* happen, quickhammers *do* happen

and no, they don't get punished most of the time

[Datisi]

re testa and gamma: both for somewhat the reasons

gamma feels solvey and uncommitted at this point, while giving thoughts
tris as well, but has the added benefit of sharing my thoughts (rather, me sharing hers) wrt alch

i was actually wondering more about testa rather than tris, i think i'm walking back on tris

do you think 159/162 were in bad faith? that's what they pinged me as, if that is a misrep of you in that game

[Iconeum]

i don't think or feel that gamma's posts were in bad faith - i'd not have a townlean on them if i did

alchemist otoh uses logic like the one VP used to defend his buddy npow - yeah i scumread that

[Datisi]

yeah i figured that was what you were referencing back there

i didn't think that's scum indicative for alch but i also didn't think that was scum indicative for vp and oops

[Iconeum]

Tbh I don't really think tris' posts are scummy.

this was the main post that made me go 'this is town'

i don't feel that scum are gonna defend a buddy here in this way, and scum are also not gonna stop someone from scumreading someone else if you know what i mean

very early logic, but i see something in it

[Datisi]

i don't feel that scum are gonna defend a buddy here in this way,

and scum are also not gonna stop someone from scumreading someone else if you know what i mean

i like... extremely disagree with this, especially this early game

unless there's a lolhammer or a literal scumslip, the first wagon of the day very rarely actually goes through and gets executed

i don't think defending such a wagon on page 3 is not town!indicative?

[Iconeum]

i think going against such a push so early is town!indicative

[Nero Cain]

Does Iconeum usually lurk as scum? Or is that just a general lurkadurp scumread?

general.

i'd like to hear more about that gamma scumread.

mostly

VOTE: echovision
Serious vote of my own.

you aren't using your words so either you are scum that's pretending like they are doing things by throwing down a forceful naked vote or you are massively unhelpful town.

but he's saying that it was a pressure vote so eh..ok but why does he stop pressuring him?

His stuff about me still gives me an odd feeling.

I pushed posts made by you and your hydra partner and I got heated until I realized the posts were yours

I'll never understandstand how him knowingly pushing against his scum buddy gets

him

angry. And I kinda think thats just a lie.

My memory is I pushed you to try to look townier but it ended up being a super helpful distancing play because everyone ended up thinking I wouldn't do that sort of tunnel to a scumbuddy.

like, doesn't this kinda contridict the above statement?

He's claiming this was all an RVS joke but it seems sorta flimsy to me.

[Nero Cain]

is this a meta read on gamma or like a "general tell"?

can you elaborate how you got the list of people in 140?

general

it's my gut. I know I'm town. My feelings are that Tris is just confusing town thats doing what she thinks is good town play but those not in the know think she's scummy. Alch and I are mind melding as usual. Test, Mizzy and Eg all feel like they are doing things. Ditto Sircake although in hindsight some of his wording is but I'm chalking that up to it being sircakez. I'm actully town reading you for a pretty silly reason but eh.

wich leaves us with....

Gamma Emerald
EchoVision
UnaBombaH
Iconeum



ta dah?