I know this is long but bear with it.
If it seems like I'm playing both sides and giving in to you by dropping suspicion it's that for all the bad stuff habit did below, he just feels like an impatient person to me. Semi-experienced if that means he hasn't played enough long games to know that patience is a virtue. But my opinions are not enough because we've been too focused on one another so what does everyone else think of this:
Habit PbPA
1 – FoS me for trying to take the “TPT discussion” topic to the next level. (I was asking questions not throwing out my vote and persuading others to do the same.)
2 – Says I’m taking advantage of this early phase that doesn’t have clues to who is scum, but also says my discussion could lead to 4 more pages of discussion that is worth less than a page of proper investigation. (First I’m not the only one that can ask questions so it is unlikely only one person can dominate 4 pages, and with discussion out of the random vote stage comes a more solid investigation.)
3 – Admits that joke voting starts worthwhile discussion.
4 – Says I’ve been probing for answers, withholding information. (I had that misunderstanding over Simenon’s word choice.)
6 – says I’m using too-townie tactic. Enforces his FoS on me (he actually mis-read someone else’s post as mine.)
7 – Admits he’s overtly leading
9 – Admits he put words in my mouth on a misquote
10 – Explains how in a previous game he self-voted for the greater good.
11 – Admits that TPT was a good starting point for suspicions. Then accuses me for supporting conversation in any direction without taking stands. (He’s talking about my post 121 if you want to read it. I felt I gave opinions there and actually touched base on several discussions which is what he claims I never do and he himself does.)
13 – Admits he is directing conversation so everything doesn’t get focused on only one thing and we miss other avenues.
14 – Says I’m cleared, sees TPT as unhelpful and vote/FoS’ing without any weight.
23 – Reinstates his belief that I generate discussion out of nothing and focus on unimportant things. (He didn’t provide quotes but I assume it was my prior post 211 where I questioned this:
habitang wrote:Otherwise I haven't really been reading your posts, too long, this is to your disadvantage because I will gladly be the hammer vote if you're the suspect, even without reading.
(I asked him if he was serious because this seems very anti-town AND important.)
28 – “My initial case on Jahudo was for starting discussion” (love that quote) and he says I voted for TPT over semantics (that was more the last straw of nonsense behavior from TPT that made me vote).
habitang wrote: SO if I make an inflammatory statement without thinking again, well I don't see why I shouldn't get lynched if it looks like a scum slip-up
30 – Wants to no-lynch day 1
31 – Defends the no-lynch I didn’t agree with.
33 – Votes me for “smelling fishy”, constantly “being there”, and his instinct. (Where is the evidence?). He says his “impatience is kicking in”. (I think scum would be more impatient, wanting to get to night).
37 – His erratic post containing some appeals to emotion, OMGUS feelings and a desire to vote someone without providing justification because it will “save his own ass”
I’ll leave it off there. This is what I have found scummy about him:
-He often jumps to accusations and later has to withdraw them because he read a post and thought it was by someone else. In one case he voted for Ythill because of something scummy another person said.
-He also admits his impatience and desire for conversations to be shorter or to end entirely (ie. Nureins vs Ythill). It seems he wants to wrap this day up more than he claims I do and he is vocal about doing so.
-He has focused on my from the very beginning and will often draw empty conclusions about me without providing quotes or explanations. He throws out things like “too-townie” or supporting conversation in any direction while he supports conversation in a different direction? Don’t forget that he voted for me because I smelled fishy and was “Constantly being there”
-He wanted to no lynch and it was the timing that gave the impression that this was not an early day 1 newbie suggestion but an impatient person that doesn’t want to scum hunt any more today.
-Read his 28th post “If I do make an inflammatory statement”, then his 37th post and tell me why he wasn’t asking for it. “I don’t see why I shouldn’t be lynched”. I’m talking about how he wanted to vote Tritch to save himself.