Mini 611 - Troy, Meet Helen (Game Over)
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charter Beware of Dog
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Actually, if Tinsley is scum it doesn't make sense for him to unvote Mac. WIFOM or not, if he was scum, I see no reason other than a wild play for him to unvote Mac. Of course if they're both scum this doesn't apply, but then we'll be doing pretty good.
Of course this isn't really evidence that Mac is scum, but in my head it gives Tinsley lots of townie points (coupled with his evidence on you Fark).-
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Charter- are you aware that despite your last post you are still voting for Tinsley?
I am puzzled by Tinsley's unvote. At 5 apiece with Tinsley having got there first he was a dead man walking, then Charter moved his vote and (if nothing else happened) in effect saved Tinsley and killed Mac. As recently as post #933 Tinsley was prepared to lynch a lot of people just to stay alive:
I doubt it will change anything, but I will vote any of charter, Mac, or Riot if we can get enough for a lynch on any of them. I will only vote Walnut, LG, or SG if it will keep me from being lynched at deadline.Reading your signature makes me feel guilty and helpless.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Thesp Supersaint
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CF Riot wrote:It's been said but I'll add my opinion of no self-hammer out there. We've waited this long, might as well take this one all the way to deadline too.
No no no no no. A deadline is a sorry excuse for a lynch."When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia
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ShadowGirl Mafia Scum
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60 hours left until the deadline!
For future reference, because both day 1 and day 2 have taken 4 weeks each, I will be instating a 2-week deadline for all remaining days. I don't want a mini to turn into a year-long game, here.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
Nightson: "I'd be more then happy to play with Ether and Mizzy. At the same time."
Muerrto: "Mizzy is my hero and I wanna be like her when I grow younger <3"-
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charter Beware of Dog
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Thesp Supersaint
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Does anyone else read this as, "I need to know whether or not to kill you tonight"?charter wrote:SG, would you please post your updated thoughts on all players and why they're at where they are.
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Tinsley Goon
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I addressed it in post 597.Farkshinsoup wrote:You never addressed this, Tinsley, because I ended up switching my votes about a jillion times and stopped asking, but could you please now explain how it was you came to make this horrible argument coupled with your blatant OMGUS vote?
That's a craptastic justification. Just because he voted you doesn't mean you have to indicate suspicion of him. As for his investigation, while Riot and I found it questionable, there were others that trusted it, so you weren't exactly going along with the crowd. If you knew Thesp was telling the truth, then wasn't it your responsibility to not bring suspicion onto him?Farkshinsoup wrote:So the guy was voting me, and was claiming that he was a cop of undetermined sanity who just happened to investigate the dead guy. If I had not had knowledge that he was actually telling the truth, this would have definitely warranted an FoS from me. So that's what I did. If I had just given him a pass, it seems to me like I might as well have hung a sign around my neck saying "Hey scum, power role over here!."
I unvoted Mac for two reasons:charter wrote:Actually, if Tinsley is scum it doesn't make sense for him to unvote Mac. WIFOM or not, if he was scum, I see no reason other than a wild play for him to unvote Mac. Of course if they're both scum this doesn't apply, but then we'll be doing pretty good.
Of course this isn't really evidence that Mac is scum, but in my head it gives Tinsley lots of townie points (coupled with his evidence on you Fark).
A) I didn't want someone to jump on his bandwagon after you unvoted me, ending D2 before we could discuss this.
B) I'm no longer leaning toward Mac being scum.
Which leads me to:
I'm dropping the case on Riot. My whole case on Mac, charter, and Riot was that they seemed to be targeting the players with the scummiest playstyles - Netlava (charter didn't target him) and Walnut, and the fact that they rarely indicated suspicion of each other. The whole case was based on the fact that I thought Fark was town, but I don't see it that way anymore.Riot wrote:Tinsley if you are going to continue your case of me that's fine but I'd like you to respond to my defense if that's the case. I had 2 questions to you in my last post, aside from the general "this is why you're wrong" type statements.
I'd like to ask everyone where they stand on Fark (scum or town)?
Charter, Thesp, Camn - If you think Fark is scum, why would you join a bandwagon he's leading?-
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charter Beware of Dog
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I was asking it because, once again, SG says a whole lot of nothing with her post. She hasn't said a damn thing the entire game. She flip flops on who she suspects whenever a new bandwagon forms. I won't comment on the whether or not she might die part, as it could possibly help scum and not town.Thesp wrote:
Does anyone else read this as, "I need to know whether or not to kill you tonight"?charter wrote:SG, would you please post your updated thoughts on all players and why they're at where they are.
I think it's LG, Fark, and SG possibly. I'm still absolutely sure LG is scum. Fark's slip up there is also quite damning. I'm not really that sure on SG, as she doesn't say anything. If LG flips scum, I then think it's Mac based on their interactions from day 1.
If we can get enough Fark or LG votes, I'll move my vote back over to one of them.-
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ShadowGirl Mafia Scum
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charter Beware of Dog
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charter Beware of Dog
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Vote Count:
*Macavenger 5 (Lord Gurgi, CF Riot, ShadowGirl, Walnut, charter)*
Tinsley 4 (camn, Thesp, Farkshinsoup, Macavenger)
Not Voting:Tinsley
10 Alive = 6 to lynch!
Deadline: August 23rd at 12 Midnight EST
Bolded person gets killed at deadline.PokerFace: "I need to play with [Ether] or Mizzy more often."
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CF Riot Mafia Scum
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Not to totally mind-f*** the town, but I was just sort of thinking the opposite.SG wrote:He started the Mac wagon, did he not? If Mac were to turn up town, then I'd be thoroughly convinced he was scum.
I'm thinking Mac team would be any two of: Charter, LG, SG, or Fark.
Walnut team could be: LG, SG, Fark.
I think the probability that Fark is scum is low. I've done a reread of Charter and read *most* of Tinsley's case against him, and I can't quite convince myself he's scum. If Mac flips scum I could try harder, but other than that I just don't see it.
I'm 50/50 on Mac/Walnut. I was sure Walnut was scum when today started. The only reason I'm unsure now is because the way Mac responded to his wagon makes me think he's totally guilty.
However it's worth noting that I wasn't too hot on an LG lynch today, but out of my top two picks he's a likely buddy on both teams. It caught my eye how he was the first to vote Mac, but when Tinsley and I followed he said he didn't like how fast the wagon was building. It seemed like he wasn't expecting anyone to listen to him and got cold feet once we did. I'm going to do a reread of him to see what stands out, and he may be my top suspect tomorrow if we lynch a Mac-scum today. If we get Mac-town it might be a toss-up between him and Walnut.-
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Lord Gurgi Mostly Harmless
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Sorry but I don't like you setting up lynches for tomorrow.charter wrote:Well, I don't see any downside to this. Tinsley's unvoting Mac makes no sense if he's scum. Mac could be scum and we lynch him. Mac flips town and we lynch LG tomorrow.
unvote, vote Mac
That said, if Mac isn't scum I will go sit in the corner for a while. ._.(11:26:07 PM) thesheamuffin: I'm counting gurgi because I would probably make out with him if I were drunk enough-
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Tinsley says his whole case was based on certain points, but you need only look back to his PBPA on Charter to see that he attacked him for all sorts of other reasons as well. This is why I don't trust Tinsley- he picks his current target then dredges up everything that could be used against them, rather than analysing what is there to determine who the target should be.Tinsley wrote: I'm dropping the case on Riot. My whole case on Mac, charter, and Riot was that they seemed to be targeting the players with the scummiest playstyles - Netlava (charter didn't target him) and Walnut, and the fact that they rarely indicated suspicion of each other.
The whole case against Charter, Macavenger and CFRiot was based on Fark being town? Are you saying that either they are alll scum (and therefore noone else is) or if you suspect one other player then none of those three are scum?The whole case was based on the fact that I thought Fark was town, but I don't see it that way anymore.Reading your signature makes me feel guilty and helpless.-
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charter Beware of Dog
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