that seems like a good way to read me idkIn post 2857, SirCakez wrote:Tammy can you help me parse Petapan? I am not sure how to read him really. My TR on him rn is basically just based on his content and scumhunting.
I just think it was kind of an overtly roundabout and unnecessary way to say that they liked Bulge because of their increased activity and motivationIn post 3148, petapan wrote:i don't understand what's "performative" about that ISO, though. i don't agree with the conclusions nahdia makes at all really but this is a weird assessment to meIn post 2855, SirCakez wrote:2845 seems performative and forced.
3rd, I don’t want to force my reads.but there’s a deadline to these things.In post 3148, petapan wrote:i have never felt able to relate to someone as a mafia player so much before now. this has nothing to do with this game just on a playstyle level, man, i am the exact same wayIn post 2855, SirCakez wrote:I don't really like doing readslists because I feel like on certain players I end forcing reads that I don't really feel good about
i don't understand what's "performative" about that ISO, though. i don't agree with the conclusions nahdia makes at all really but this is a weird assessment to meIn post 2855, SirCakez wrote:2845 seems performative and forced.
Peta, why are you waffling on my read of me?In post 3121, petapan wrote:whatIn post 3027, Nahdia wrote:uh, why is that first thing scum indicative? all the conftown coming out narrowed the pool significantly, making it easier to get a footing in this game. if anything, i would say disappearing when all the conftown appear is scummier, since you would imagine scum could get discouraged when that happens.In post 2989, SirCakez wrote:Well for starters I'd argue that both only becoming active when all of the conftown came out is scum indicative in itself
Both have been essentially attacking and trying to discredit the other people in the not-conftown pool who suspect them when it should be pretty obvious to both of them why they are suspected
no that's like the exact opposite of reality and should be especially clear from your POV
look at it this way: we are in a reality where, unless you or bell are scum, virtually the entire groupscum faction went largely under the radar on day 1 and faced no serious pressure. sure, the traitor died, but up until now, whoever it is has done a very good job of keeping out of the spotlight. they have been successfully flying under the radar. suddenly half the game is claiming masons and the pool of potential votes just got very, very narrow. whoever it is can no longer afford to simply hide away, they have to suddenly appear the most town, they have to show WIM and effort, a sudden burst is likely to get viewed favorably.
like, no one here is a fucking slouch who's going to just quit when things get a little tricky and i don't know why you'd assume that people would get demotivated
nah, but if he flips red (something i find myself waffling on quite a bit) i'll tell you who to bet the game on and then i don't care if i dieIn post 3032, Alisae wrote:And I also think if Bell is scum, Peta is very likely going to be their buddy
as someone who watched peta annihilate the town in that marathon game as scum - I'm pretty sure nobody can read the guy :3.In post 3150, petapan wrote:that seems like a good way to read me idkIn post 2857, SirCakez wrote:Tammy can you help me parse Petapan? I am not sure how to read him really. My TR on him rn is basically just based on his content and scumhunting.
tammy hasn't seen me as scum and i haven't had a meaningful (non-marathon) forum scumgame in 5 or 6 years so how i'd even play it is mostly theoretical at this point. i think i'd be playing this day phase a little more confidently than i have been.
i actually disagree with this, the time for that sort of thing was day 1 or the start of day 2 when the field was more open. as things are, the field is too narrow, you're not as likely to get useful data. even if the scumteam are disconnected from the thread right now, they're much more likely to be coordinated in their approach which make things less useful - they know they have to push certain people, they know they have to do a certain amount of distancing. town are also going to be more self-conscious - you're more likely to get a lot of people with exactly 3 scum reads, for instance. but then, that was a technique i stole from someone on another website and used as an experiment, it's not something that i feel is even a reliable tool for meIn post 2889, Cabd wrote:Gamestate too topheavy. Something for day four or soIn post 2886, fferyllt wrote:Cabd, petapan: thoughts about trying gth?
a marathon game is going to rely significantly more on fast-talking and faking in the moment reactions, it's akin to sleight of hand. i can't play a forum game the same way i would a chat oneIn post 3155, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:as someone who watched peta annihilate the town in that marathon game as scum - I'm pretty sure nobody can read the guy :3.In post 3150, petapan wrote:that seems like a good way to read me idkIn post 2857, SirCakez wrote:Tammy can you help me parse Petapan? I am not sure how to read him really. My TR on him rn is basically just based on his content and scumhunting.
tammy hasn't seen me as scum and i haven't had a meaningful (non-marathon) forum scumgame in 5 or 6 years so how i'd even play it is mostly theoretical at this point. i think i'd be playing this day phase a little more confidently than i have been.
Yeah, I've been thinking it's a missed opportunity, but wanted other opinions.In post 3156, petapan wrote:i actually disagree with this, the time for that sort of thing was day 1 or the start of day 2 when the field was more open. as things are, the field is too narrow, you're not as likely to get useful data. even if the scumteam are disconnected from the thread right now, they're much more likely to be coordinated in their approach which make things less useful - they know they have to push certain people, they know they have to do a certain amount of distancing. town are also going to be more self-conscious - you're more likely to get a lot of people with exactly 3 scum reads, for instance. but then, that was a technique i stole from someone on another website and used as an experiment, it's not something that i feel is even a reliable tool for meIn post 2889, Cabd wrote:Gamestate too topheavy. Something for day four or soIn post 2886, fferyllt wrote:Cabd, petapan: thoughts about trying gth?
This tripped me up and I thought it was weird too.In post 2682, Alisae wrote:@Conftown
What do you guys think of asking the other 8 villagers to get some wagons going.
Having 2-3 wagons happening would really help me out a lot and unless all of those 8 people agree on 1 individual, no one is going to die so it should be fine.
Ideally I would like to see Nahdia, DS, or Bell wagons but up to ywall
face to face, maybe. in chat games i was generally very good scum but found it very hard to adapt to the forum game until i started using the playstyle i have on this account. and even then in 2013 i lost motivation and played like dogshit which is why i don't really know where my game would be at. but mostly i don't think i've beenIn post 3158, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I find deception to be harder in real-time than in forum, so it just raises how much scarier I think you would be as scum :3
I wrote that because cabd mentioned sometime earlier that he didn't want people being voted or somethingIn post 3160, Bell wrote:This tripped me up and I thought it was weird too.In post 2682, Alisae wrote:@Conftown
What do you guys think of asking the other 8 villagers to get some wagons going.
Having 2-3 wagons happening would really help me out a lot and unless all of those 8 people agree on 1 individual, no one is going to die so it should be fine.
Ideally I would like to see Nahdia, DS, or Bell wagons but up to ywall
If it makes you feel better, i’m scum reading you for things you’ve done.In post 3162, petapan wrote:face to face, maybe. in chat games i was generally very good scum but found it very hard to adapt to the forum game until i started using the playstyle i have on this account. and even then in 2013 i lost motivation and played like dogshit which is why i don't really know where my game would be at. but mostly i don't think i've beenIn post 3158, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I find deception to be harder in real-time than in forum, so it just raises how much scarier I think you would be as scum :3thathard to read this game so having reads thrown my way based largely on paranoia and not anything i've actually done is very irritating
If you say so.In post 3166, Alisae wrote:its not ur fault you randed scum
somewhat indeterminate. Probably not for an hour or so.In post 3168, Cabd wrote:Kiddo finally asleep. Let me recover my eardrums, and then we can plan out.
Ffery, when will you be food telling?
In post 2930, Alisae wrote:I think Diamond is just so out of touch of the game and also reality that he just has to be town
in fairness this guy isn't pine, but then his reads aren't because he's disconnected. i think those sort of conspiratorial paranoia-reads of claimed lover-masons are not an angle scum are very likely to pursue because they know it's not going to yield anything for them. they're more likely to accept it and work around it because they know the info is true. i think "this seems fairly busted if all the claims are true so i doubt they all are" is most likely a townie thought process.In post 2931, Cabd wrote:Last time I was willing to accept that, we lost to pine-scum, Alisae.
while i don't think midway is likely to continue stepping on the same rakes as scum and he has faded a bit i think his posts so far today still show a purpose to them and he's trying to scumhunt, he hasn't started coasting. i would still probably bet the game on him as town with no other information.In post 2960, Alisae wrote:and I townread Midway still even though thats kind of stale?
In post 3165, Bell wrote:If it makes you feel better, i’m scum reading you for things you’ve done.In post 3162, petapan wrote:face to face, maybe. in chat games i was generally very good scum but found it very hard to adapt to the forum game until i started using the playstyle i have on this account. and even then in 2013 i lost motivation and played like dogshit which is why i don't really know where my game would be at. but mostly i don't think i've beenIn post 3158, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I find deception to be harder in real-time than in forum, so it just raises how much scarier I think you would be as scum :3thathard to read this game so having reads thrown my way based largely on paranoia and not anything i've actually done is very irritating
i would just like to note the tack cakez takes here of attacking DS for his wacko reads until he sees that people don't find DS scummy for it and so he backs down in later postsIn post 2965, SirCakez wrote:people like me!In post 2921, Alisae wrote:Nahdia, you know how mafia players pretend like they know whats going on in the game completely but they actually don't?this may be one of the worst readslists I've ever seen. literally NULL ON EVERYONE EXCEPT FOR A SR ON CONFTOWNIn post 2923, DiamondSentinel wrote:Big Dethy Room in the Sky - Locktown. Not allowed to touch those (as much as I'd love to, pertaining to Jake. Speaking of which, where's Jake? I just realized I've not been filled with seething annoyance for too long)
Bell - Null!Scum. Had a couple things here and there that I do not care much for.
Cabd - Scum. My gut has only gotten worse since the whole fiasco on day 1. Although there was something about a mason above? With a dethy, I don't believe that the set-up would have both a dethy and masons. Still, can someone explain later?
midwaybear - Null!town. I'm apprehensive about how readily he's agreeing with me, but I can't point to anything more worrisome.
Cakez - Null. Not a null in a "I can't read him", but a null in "it can go either way". Some stuff I really like, but his interactions with the dethy and a couple others. have been.... interesting.
S_S - Surprisingly null!town. one of my stronger towns, but I'm not putting anyone in actual town because that tier is reserved for haha funny dethy-land.
Alisae - Null. Don't like your fixation on me, but I can't scumread you for that. You're doing your job. Some stuff has rubbed me the wrong way, but hey, that applies to most.
peta - null (slight town leanings, but not null!town). Constant dry humor doesn't off-put me here, so that's good, but other than that, I've seen some things that make me scratch my head. Specifically that their iso is almost entirely questions with a couple of observations. Not much that they've personally postulated. Nothing worrisome, but I keep them on my mind.
Pooky - /shrug. Don't remember them posting aside from snarking and the D1 cringeRP.
Bulge - /shrug. This is what sparked this.
Gamma - I... wish I had more. I haven't gained much on them, but this is really my lasttruegut read. Something doesn't sit right with me about them. I doubt that trying to come up with justification from the thread would work because my unconscious mind is not great.
Nahdia - Still think they're scum.what??? your solution to this is either the world's dumbest mafia inside joke or FG (one of the most tenured and respected mods on MS) is breaking site rules????In post 2933, DiamondSentinel wrote:Yeah that was what I was talking about.In post 2929, Alisae wrote:Cabd and SS are also masons
I don't believe that. I do not believe for a second that there is one pair of masons with the dethy, much less two.
I also don't believe that you guys are all four scum because that's stupid. What Idobelieve is that this is a super "fun" inside joke (or this game is secretly bastard).