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Hopkirk Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
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- Joined: July 24, 2013
- Location: Britain
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Hopkirk Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8699
- Joined: July 24, 2013
- Location: Britain
Plus Hectic isn't in any other games and you signed up to two at once around when the other ones he was in were finishing? Pretty suspicious.In post 447, Hopkirk wrote:I'm getting so much paranoia from Staarling having her last online set to off.
Townlean even if it is Hectic, but less than if she isn't.There's no reaching. I've become enlightened.-
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Trendall Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1575
- Joined: June 18, 2010
- Location: UK
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Noraa ze/zirfluffy tsunamize/zir
- fluffy tsunami
- fluffy tsunami
- Posts: 14576
- Joined: August 23, 2020
- Pronoun: ze/zir
- Location: the fridge where the ice cream be
Happy scum day or birthday whichever it is and now I will be replying to this wall.
Spoiler:
1) I didn't say my reaction is the same. I do not believe they are the exact same as that'd be pretty impossible BUT they are all bad is my point.
2) uh ok? I do react badly to pressure yeah.
3) I never said I thought he was scum? Like I just said that people normally don't react well to early pressure regardless of alignment and that's why I'm defending.
4) I generally think tunneling is considered towny which is why scums do it much more to look protown.
5) Hiraki has a SR on me in case you didn't realize that
you seem to misrep me a lot. Highly dislike but not sure if its AI. We'll see ig.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE-
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Noraa ze/zirfluffy tsunamize/zir
- fluffy tsunami
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- Location: the fridge where the ice cream be
In post 432, Glitch wrote:Trendall was the biggest wagon in the game so far. It is unlikely that the largest wagon so far had 0 scum on it. If we zoom into each one of the players who have been on the Trendall wagon, here are each of their takes on Trendall and how they handled that wagon. I am not including mine because it I had a 2 hour 1v1 with him and it would be way too many quotes to post. If you want to read my thoughts and interactions with Trendall, please go to my ISO and the majority will probably be about Trendall.
Spoiler: Flub regarding Trendall
Spoiler: NoPoint on Trendall
Spoiler: Keita on Trendall
Spoiler: PLUSjoyed's on Trendall
Ratings:
Flub: D
NoPoint: A+
Keita: C-
PLUSjoyed: D-
I'm still staying on Noraa at this point but I will compromise onto {PLUSjoyed / derp} and am open to discussions on JohnnyFarrar, Flub, and maybe Keita.
Just being honest though I would love to just PL derp today because of how inaccurate our shot is going to be anyway and (no offense) but scum will let that slot live until endgame with the shallow and non-threatening playstyle. If we have a D1 lynch that we are going to be the least accurate with we could at least redeem it for something useful that could help us in endgame. I promise I'm not trying to be rude or mean at all but I am trying to play the game to win. There's no way to sort derp and 86ing that slot today would probably be my biggest preference. Noraa would be good too. Others are considerable.[/quote]
You just threw shade at all of the wagon but then left a vote on me. Interesting.
Ha. TOLD YAIn post 449, Hopkirk wrote:I guess I'm a hyperposter now. Noraa was right, it does feel good.
feels more like 2.In post 450, Hopkirk wrote:Huh, thirteen players. Felt more like eleven.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
Come play Guess that Scummer OR ELSE-
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Noraa ze/zirfluffy tsunamize/zir
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- Pronoun: ze/zir
- Location: the fridge where the ice cream be
Yeah idk what went wrong with that formatting.Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today.
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Staarling Goon
- Goon
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- Posts: 163
- Joined: October 23, 2020
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Staarling
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Keita Townie
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- Townie
- Posts: 16
- Joined: October 23, 2020
Well, yeah, I’m not a noob. I said I have mafia experience, just not on this site or with this format.In post 407, Noraa wrote:Had some suspicions on Keita since a while ago that I didnt voice. Did an ISO. I think I'm moving my vote there.
First post : super uptight and basically spoilers to us that they will be using the noob card but future posts show us that they are 100000% NOT a noob.
jumps on the biggest wagon, not too strange but something to note regardless.
groups people. kinda hate that considering everyone sees that I've been wk'ing but saying if one is scum, the other is too is kinda .... not cool for a day 1 read. If Trendall ever flips green this game, I 100% see this as an attempt from scum to set up chain lims(trendall -> noraa). Plus, they throw shade at me but don't try to push or engage me .... until they ask me one singular question. I answer. They don't reply to my answer or say what's wrong with it but just directly vote me.
the progression is pretty unnatural and it lacks the townie spirit of engaging and pushing.
Keita's votes feel rather opportunistic and none of them really had a progression or reason to back it up. VOTE: Keita
engage me.
Jumping on a wagon doesn’t indicate anything since I gave good reasoning as to why.
Yeah I struggle a lot with pushing people so I apologize for being so passive.-
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Staarling Goon
- Goon
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- Posts: 163
- Joined: October 23, 2020
first i thought Hopkirk was using these weird reasons to put the suspicion onto me but he said it wouldn't make him think i'm mafia so now i dunno. he has a cool profile picture which helps :>
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Trendall Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1575
- Joined: June 18, 2010
- Location: UK
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Flubbernugget Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 11751
- Joined: June 26, 2014
I don't fret much if my reads are wrong esp d1. but there's more to a day phase than reads, which I'm a little more certain forIn post 426, Hiraki wrote:
I guess? You don't like to try to be right 100% of the time?In post 411, Flubbernugget wrote:
Nothing about a wagon being in a good position should make you sweat.In post 408, Hiraki wrote:Agreed on first which is making me sweat a little in that I'm just wrong in going the VI route but I'm going to soak a little more before doing anything. I think that slot needs to be terminated before Day 3 though so a Day 1 isn't the worst case scenario. I just don't see it flipping red.-
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JohnnyFarrar Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5793
- Joined: April 14, 2012
- Location: somewhere close
Feeling this pretty hard based on the last page.In post 460, Trendall wrote:Haha yeah so Staarling must be an alt of somebodyPhone posting. Low effort, big fun.
"In my heart, Johnny will always be scum" - Not_Mafia-
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JohnnyFarrar Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 5793
- Joined: April 14, 2012
- Location: somewhere close
Walk me through these pleaseIn post 446, Hopkirk wrote:Town: Staarling, PlusPhone posting. Low effort, big fun.
"In my heart, Johnny will always be scum" - Not_Mafia-
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Hopkirk Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Jack of All Trades
- Posts: 8699
- Joined: July 24, 2013
- Location: Britain
There's someone on the site I play a lot with called hectic who's played under around twenty-thirty different accounts at this point - using many of these for 2-3 games then revealing it was him. You give me major 'hectic secretly pretending to be a new player vibes', and hectic almost definitely joined one or two games under new accounts at the exact same time you did - so there's solid circumstance/context based evidence you're secretly hectic.In post 456, Staarling wrote:@Hopkirk: i'm not the player hectic but i'm confused, does this mean you think i'm mafia?
If you aren't secretly hectic you're my strongest townread at say 90% town. If you are hectic then I'm leaning town on you but not as hard.
Do you think staarling is an alt, if she isn't then she feels really really obviously town. I can explain why, but I don't get how you wouldn't see it.In post 463, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Walk me through these pleaseIn post 446, Hopkirk wrote:Town: Staarling, Plus
Plus I'll need to go over when I'm not phoneposting as it's easier to explain/quote that way.There's no reaching. I've become enlightened.-
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JohnnyFarrar Jack of All Trades
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- Posts: 5793
- Joined: April 14, 2012
- Location: somewhere close
Just making sure to separate your paranoia with the slot from your read on my headIn post 464, Hopkirk wrote:Do you think staarling is an alt, if she isn't then she feels really really obviously town. I can explain why, but I don't get how you wouldn't see it.Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
"In my heart, Johnny will always be scum" - Not_Mafia-
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derp Goon
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- Posts: 209
- Joined: October 17, 2020
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Hiraki Survivor
- Survivor
- Survivor
- Posts: 12372
- Joined: September 16, 2010
Bad read.In post 442, Hopkirk wrote:This slot is incredibly obvtown (obvious town)
Even weirder.In post 442, Hopkirk wrote:not a townread on the most obvtown (new) player in the thread.-
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Glitch He/HimMafia ScumHe/Him
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1074
- Joined: April 24, 2015
- Pronoun: He/Him
- Location: Houston, TX
Hopkirk hates how I post and then posts like me lol. Bruh don't ever play with Norwegian if you dont like tons of one liners. Nothing wrong with how we play or post. We may post a lot but it isn't spam and if it weren't broken up it would be wall wars.
I like your thought of Staarling being an alt but your confidence on your TR on that slot is freaking weird to me. I also think your SR of nopoint is terrible and you haven't given any explanation at all. Your TR of Plusjoyed is also super shallow and while I'm trying not to SR you for just having opposite reads than me I am struggling with your reads because there isn't a case you've made on town/PJ or scum!no point.
Hirakis reads are almost all great.
Your opposition to my derp PL is non committal.
You and Trendalls relationship makes me slightly raise an eyebrow.
Noraa yes as I sort through who was on the Trendall wagon I'm clarifying reads and sorting players. And after that you're still my top pick.
Hopkirk what was underwhelming about my self meta?
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nopointinactingup Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 2872
- Joined: February 11, 2010
What is the so called "gotcha" you're talking about here?In post 408, Hiraki wrote:Admittedly this is a gotcha that I didn't expect to work but sometimes you throw softballs to get strike outs.
[quote="In post 408
So what are the conflicting ideas here that Trendall is supposed to agree/disagree with? Unless I'm reading this post wrong, the agreement is in the entire point about tratiors. I don't really care about this by the way as much as I care about how useless Nopoint's questioning is here. His response to my question on 317 cements that Nopoint doesn't care about the context of the post and was really looking for a very very very fake "gotcha!" by posting something that sounds somewhat sophisticated:
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Still don't understand what "gotcha" you're talking about. Trendall's vote on #88 was sheepish and still very much is, he couldn't have "agreed" with Nora in anyway because Nora's assessment of Glitch was a defensive, not an objective point.
Nora said that Glitch's attempt to sort her was a red flag and I found Trendall sheeping that scummy because the point has nothing to do with him. Also, nice try posting my comments out-of-context. My original post shows the reason why I asked that question:In post 88, Noraa wrote:
Kinda confused but like the fellow thing had nothing to do with why I went back and checked. It was actually because I was talking about traitors elsewhere can't remember which thread but like someone said that traitors are a mafia member that isn't known to the mafia and the mafia only knows of their existence. I thought a traitor was like basically a RBer or something but Bob was def in the mafia thread from the start that game so I went back and checked and once I saw that I was like oh, huh so he wasn't a traitor. So I thought I'd share.
Doesnt really have much to do with being self aware and your attempt to dig into this is a bit concerning and kinda a red flag to me. Consider your past pocketing as cancelled out.
"This feels really sheepish. Which part of Nora's post do you agree with? Why do you think scum-Glitch would necessarily try to push on Nora when you are his biggest suspect?"
Instead of admitting your argument failed or try to talk about it, you'd rather take random podshots at me. My scumdar is pinging on this slot.In post 421, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
Man you looked up exactly when In her iso huh? Do YOU play cautious as scum?In post 403, nopointinactingup wrote:This is a failed attempt to undermine me. Nora voted Glitch on her third post of the game.
Check out my response to Glitch post 317. I already addressed that they were only slight townreads. Regarding my thoughts to Starling, new does not mean obv town, I still have a null on that slot since they provided no substantial content.In post 444, Hopkirk wrote: I don't really like how this sums up to townreads on all the active players (which I don't feel there's enough to justify), not a townread on the most obvtown (new) player in the thread.
My god all those unexplained votes on me is scumtastic, this really confirms to me that I'm exactly where I should be. Starting to entertain the possibility that this is a turn-around attempt by the scum-team, ie more evidence that Trendall is probably scum with Nora.
Town: Glitch, Keita ie solid townblock
Null leaning town: Flubber, Starling, Plus, derp
Null leaning scum: Hikari, Johnny, Hopkirk
Scum: Trendall, NoraJustice will prevail
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivorthey/him
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