Mini Normal 2177 | Town Win

[shellyc]

Official Vote Count 1.8

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

TheGoldenParadox

(4): geraintm, Noraa, Zurel, Tayl0r Swift

(L-3)

Tayl0r Swift

(2): Shoshin, TheGoldenParadox

Shoshin

(1): Herta

Hiraki

(1): Not_Mafia

Herta

(1): Hiraki

TheFuzzylogic99

(1): Rockhopper

Not_Mafia

(1): TheFuzzylogic99

Zurel

(1): JacksonVirgo

Not Voting

(0): None.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes:

- Hiraki replaces nepenthe.
- pagetoppity

[Zurel]

I'm still rereading but I saw Jackson's vote on me. I don't know if I can defend the post they quoted but their distrust in me makes me more strongly that they're town. Take this as a pocketing attempt if you want, Jackson.

So far my vote is still on TGP. I will continue rereading and add more later.

[Zurel]

*believe more strongly

[shellyc]

MOD ANNOUNCEMENT

Herta has been prodded and has (expired on 2020-11-16 07:26:58) to post before I start looking for a replacement.

[Zurel]

Also, just to be clear, TGP really had claimed Vanilla Townie?

[JacksonVirgo]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

[Not_Mafia]

- what makes you think NM will be useful. Your logic seems fuzzy.

I said helpful, not useful. Two big distinctions. Useful implies that he'll comply with questions. Helpful means that he'll answer with something. That being said, he's definitely made it easier for me to TR TGP.

I don't see why scumTGP wouldn't bring up what I did regarding L-1 if he actually had a vendetta against NM starting back in 2017 (this would also require me to fact check that which I don't really think I will do). I don't see TGP as being survivalist here which along with everything else is pinging me in the wrong direction.

That being said, TGP has also done nothing to redeem his slot and might as well be as useless as what he calls NM to be at the moment. If he got eliminated, I wouldn't cry. I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

- can you explain your scum read on Herta. Seems a bit random. Cna you explain your logic please.

Coasting and bad vote placement -

Shoshin is explaining nothing and parked on Taylor for reasons?

VOTE: Shoshin

This post specifically pinged me because -

Shoshin, rockhopper, tgp, N_M, fuzzy. Please start towning.

It's immediately followed by this one.

Official Vote Count 1.6

With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to launch.

Not_Mafia

(2): Not_Mafia, TheGoldenParadox

TheGoldenParadox

(5): geraintm, Noraa, JacksonVirgo, Zurel, Tayl0r Swift

(L-2)

Tayl0r Swift

(1): Shoshin

JacksonVirgo

(1): Rockhopper

Shoshin

(1): Herta

Not Voting

(2): nepenthe, TheFuzzylogic99

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-18 18:37:20).

Mod notes:

- Hiraki requests to replace nepenthe, and will join us when he confirms.
- Pagetop!

Here's the votecount two pages later (without looking too hard, there were no giant swings in voting). Two people on that list are already wagoned right now and Herta's bet is on someone that is parked on someone for 'no reason'? Really?

Not to mention, Herta's fascination with Shoshin is really odd:

Still wondering about this. Looks more and more like not rvs but ???

My questions are as follows and require no answer:

1) Who cares about this?
2) Do you think this one vote will lead to a wagon?
3) Is there anyone else doing the same exact thing (no - not referring to N_M) that is worthy of calling out?

Herta easily has the most scum equity in the game and I think there's a huge opportunity being missed here but I'm not going to cry over that either if that happens D2.

The lack of interaction with Golden and the noticeable kind of avoiding Golden but slightly agreeing with consensus with the "yikes" makes me think high partner equity. Scum bin for you, sir.

This makes no sense but ok?

avoids quoting most of Goldens posts that look extremely bad

You've played with me before. I don't quote things that aren't worth a discussion that hasn't been had or that needs to be said.

Golden's posts that look "extremely bad" include pushing on a slot that is notoriously annoying to read and that I, myself, have borderline flipped out on in the past. To act like TGP doesn't have any justification for trying to get rid of N_M on Day 1 is nonsense. Could it be a scumplay to get rid of an easy town target? Sure. I don't see that though. Don't act like I just ignored it though. You already called my wallpost a wallpost (it's really not that long...) so your criticism is to add more that falls in line with your reads? No thanks.

Feels like hardcore scum theater.

Keep dreaming.

Aint no one did intent and he's not even at E-1.

FYI - TGP is effectively at L-1. N_M will hammer TGP once he gets to L-1 with or without claim. It's just an N_M thing.

As much as you claim, you know nothing about N_M.

vote: fuzzylogic

Enlighten me - why? Also how does Geriantim go into the town bucket?

what makes you confident in NM town at this point?

This is when I first realized that Noraaa doesn't know how to read N_M.

Wow TGP sure dropped his dedication to my policy elim awfully quickly

I disagree hard with this, even though I know you're just trying to be witty. There's 3 days left in D1.

i come back after a day away, i dont think anyone has any quotes of my post or any questions for me. i just see me added to the town pile by a bunch of people.

i don't understand this site. i play the same way and in some games i get hung up quick, others i get a pass...

i dont understand pressur eon taylor, but you all do you. i cant see me joining it any time soon

Got anything else you wanna say or that's it? You may not have any questions because you've said nothing of substance and no one wants to prod you to know everything.

He is doing a little as possible so it is hard to read him.

Indulge me - what is the difference between TGP and N_M in terms of bait? According to you (regardless of what I think on the matter), TGP is bait. However, N_M is scum for doing nothing? Aren't they both doing practically the same thing?

The above is also the reason I have a problem with people TRing N_M.

I mean that we should not kill without a claim unless we have less than 1 day. t-minuus is a term they use in rocket launches. It was the first thing that popped into my brain. like to say I used it because I thought I was smart or something but nope....random brain fart.

if you think TGP is scum why not vote for him???

I've already addressed this. N_M likes to save his vote for hammers. That is why I bolded it and warned TGP to claim now. This is also why TGP claimed.

tl;dr

[geraintm]

like come on man - are you really going to come in here and try to act like there's NOTHING to talk about and you have nothing to do? not to mention whatever the above is trying to say about there not being a lot of votes? what?

Yes, pretty much. I cannot go big brain on day 1 and ever say I am certain about someone's alignment. I'm not that good a player. Expecting more from me seems impossible.

When I see people join wagons with weird reasons I'll say

[Zurel]

This is so hard. Everyone seems to contradict each other and calling others' read as nonsense. And aside from TGP's wagon, the votes are all over the place.

I'm still not done re-reading.

[Zurel]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

Can't there be any possibility of WIFOM?

[JacksonVirgo]

TGP did claim Vanilla Townie and they are obviously Town for it. What mafia would NOT claim PR if pushed to be yeeted D1

Can't there be any possibility of WIFOM?

WIFOM by claiming VT in hopes of being called out like I did is WAY higher risk for reward here. They're just easy town.

[Hiraki]

When I see people join wagons with weird reasons I'll say

so no one has done this so far?

i'm not asking you to be a good player, i just don't think you're playing at all

[Tayl0r Swift]

What's your read on Fuzzy, Taylor?

low content which i think is typical for fuzzy. i dont have much experience with fuzzy, but im leaning town so far. i dont like the NM vote though. NM always plays this way and pushing NM is lazy.

[Tayl0r Swift]

if you think TGP is scum why not vote for him???

1) if you are town, retract that SR on NM. He is 99% town here.
2) NM always wants the hammers.

why are you so sure NM is town noraa?

[Tayl0r Swift]

This is when I first realized that Noraaa doesn't know how to read N_M.

to be fair im not sure if i know how to either. thats why im saying we just leave NM alone and see what happens with the rest of the game. we can circle back there later.

[Noraa]

You've played with me before.

its ongoing so it doesn't count until it ends and we aren't supposed to talk about it.

[Noraa]

I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

if golden flips red, we are limming you immediately the next day no question.

[Noraa]

This is when I first realized that Noraaa doesn't know how to read N_M.

dont discredit my reads.

[Noraa]

I didn't, I almost lock-towned them which is honestly a terrifying thought.

TBF, it was day 1 and that game literally went at like 200 mph speed. It was so messy with all the TvTs that no one paid any attention to me LMFAO.

[Noraa]

newbtown energy

explain. ASAP.

[Noraa]

Did you just TMI the scum amount?

All mini normals have 3 scum. That not a rule?

[Noraa]

Infact, you should vote TGP

No, scum would have claimed PR. TGP is town

I almost always claim vt as scum bc of this train of thought so absolutely not. Jacko, ur partner equity with golden just went up.

also he claimed when
1) he wasn't at E-1
2) no one even declared intent

That's towny behavior?

NU UH

[Noraa]

It's a 12 player list dude

shelly is playing and she is mod confirmed scum.

[Noraa]

i would get mor einvolved in Day 1 with more comments, but i dont have any extra info than the votes in thread and until i see some people start placing some i really dont think make sense, i cannot really engage very well

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I agree with this post from hiraki

[Hiraki]

This is when I first realized that Noraaa doesn't know how to read N_M.

dont discredit my reads.

No I am - you just tried to reason with him not to hammer as if that would work. Take yourself down a peg.

You've played with me before.

its ongoing so it doesn't count until it ends and we aren't supposed to talk about it.

Not just that game.

I just think that flip turns green rather than red.

if golden flips red, we are limming you immediately the next day no question.

Will you do that to everyone else that calls him town too? Or are you just this high on being right?

also he claimed when
1) he wasn't at E-1

you literally do not know how to play with N_M LMAO