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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:07 pm

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Cass wrote:Hm, I had not even noticed that armlx was pushing wagons without putting his vote on them... explains my bad feeling I guess.
I'm curious if he has an explanation.
FoS Armlx
Why only a FoS, though, then?

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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:12 pm

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BM wrote:Skimming is scummy because protown players are more likely to read stuff in order to understand it and properly comment on it. Scum dont need to hunt scum, and can afford to be lazy. This does not necessarily apply in tl;dr type posts, but in general, i feel it's a pretty sound scumtell.
Unfortunately, a lot of this game is beginning to get tl;dr for me, due to time restrictions. I'm thoroughly reading everything right now, but I can't promise the same a week or so in the future...
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:56 pm

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Citizen Karne wrote:Erm, can I sign the treaty? ;)
rofl! This man is clearly protown.

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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:20 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:"WRT"?
With Regard To.
Netlava wrote:@ Cyberbob: My "discussion" of the pact does not contradict my reasons for suspecting people. I gave about 2 lines on why I thought the pact's validity was a non-issue, and that peter's & earthworm's long back and forth made it an issue. Note that "too interested" was my reason.
Ah, I see. You were looking at the amount of time spent on the discussion, not the discussion per se.

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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:08 am

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So? I'm not intending it as a pressure vote, so it doesn't make a difference.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:51 am

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BM wrote:Notice that Korts claimed i was 'scummy' but didnt give any reasons, falling on the same pedastal as you- that by participating alot, i am more likely to be scum, despite failing to come up with any real scumtells from those posts.
BM, BM, don't try to misrepresent me. I never said you were scummy, at least not in this game so far. All I said was that I'm gonna keep my eye on you for a while, because this pact's impact on the game could've been both pro- and anti-town, and you were the one who started discussion about it.
BM wrote:True enough, but i see it more often from scum than town, because town has no reason not to commit to opinions.
You're elegantly avoiding the fact that townies aren't always decided on a particular matter just because they're townies.
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SC wrote:Let’s change the subject for just a moment so neither of us end up clawing at each other and winning nothing at the end. I will take a look at the other 24 players in this game and post my opinions of them based on their posts, and I want you to do the same thing. I think we've made it clear that we each think the other is scum, so don't do me and I won't do you.
Wow, does that sound like he is scared of BM?

SrangerCoug has said an awful lot, but has not said very much. He mentions his case on me a few times. What case? He has said nothing for me to defend.

He also talks about being misrepresented, yet he stated I was anti-pact. My only comment on the pact was that it was null and wouldn’t affect the game one way or the other. How is that “anti-pact”? Who is mis-representing who?

StrangerCoug has yet to anwser my simple question “Why did he initially vote BM?”. It’s a very simple and fair question. Yet he has completely ignored it.

Vote StrangerCoug
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BM wrote:FoS: CyberBob for being, just plain WRONG.
Being wrong is suspicious activity how exactly?

SC, post 497... Don't do that again. Please. On a third scan of the post I realized you messed up the quote tags and there is new info there, but way to make me read properly, damn you!
SC wrote:You say you hope scum joins the pact, which sounds a bit like something scum itself would say. It's like saying I hope scum kills Battle Mage tonight if he doesn't get lynched (especially since it would imply that I know Battle Mage is town)
I don't... exactly follow. Where do you make the connection between the two hypothetical situations?
SC wrote:OK, so it's better for us to engage in an ultimately futile vendetta?
Why is it definitely futile to continue? There has been no proof of this.

Gah. Next post, everything is all nice and clear... Shiny.
SC wrote:Laughed at Korts's pact made in retaliation to his own.
Um, you took it seriously?

I'm up to page 21 now, I'm closing in slowly, yay. Will be back later.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:49 am

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Don't expect much content for ~a week. I'll be here and reading though.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:16 am

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SC wrote:You say you hope scum joins the pact, which sounds a bit like something scum itself would say. It's like saying I hope scum kills Battle Mage tonight if he doesn't get lynched (especially since it would imply that I know Battle Mage is town)
I don't... exactly follow. Where do you make the connection between the two hypothetical situations?
They're not both hypothetical. Cephrir really did say he hopes scum gets in the treaty, which came off to me as his being scum itself. What would you think of me if I said "I hope scum kills Battle Mage"?
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SC wrote:OK, so it's better for us to engage in an ultimately futile vendetta?
Why is it definitely futile to continue? There has been no proof of this.
All it was doing to each other in the long run was giving us tunnel vision. That's why I wanted to stop it.
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SC wrote:Laughed at Korts's pact made in retaliation to his own.
Um, you took it seriously?
No, hence why I laughed.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:23 am

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SC wrote:Cephrir really did say he hopes scum gets in the treaty, which came off to me as his being scum itself.
It's this part that I can't follow. I don't understand how the first part warrants the other.
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SC wrote: Laughed at Korts's pact made in retaliation to his own.
Um, you took it seriously?
No, hence why I laughed.
Heh. But in the original context, you said it was BM who laughed at my coalition, and you never implied (at least not in the originally quoted post) that you acknowledged it as a joke.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:58 am

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BM wrote:Notice that Korts claimed i was 'scummy' but didnt give any reasons, falling on the same pedastal as you- that by participating alot, i am more likely to be scum, despite failing to come up with any real scumtells from those posts.
BM, BM, don't try to misrepresent me. I never said you were scummy, at least not in this game so far. All I said was that I'm gonna keep my eye on you for a while, because this pact's impact on the game could've been both pro- and anti-town, and you were the one who started discussion about it.
I think that's a bit ridiculous. So you think that something which i started, of which the consequences are NOT inherently scummy, should be a reason for me to be scum, IF it turns out to hurt the town? I cant really explain how ridiculous that sounds in my head... 0.o
Also, how long ago did i make that post? 0.o
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Being wrong is suspicious activity how exactly?
You tell me. Ya know, given that you made the same point above. :roll:

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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:07 am

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Again, where have I said that this is a reason for you to be scum? You're trying hard to make this black and white. You're to be watched, but that doesn't equate by far to being actually scummy. You're in the spotlight now, too late for second thoughts, no?
BM wrote:Also, how long ago did i make that post? 0.o
Far too long ago. I'm working my way up through the pages, but I'm still about six pages behind... I've half a mind to leave it, but I owe you guys a proper read.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:17 am

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Vote Count Ten of Day One

(5) Cass: Netlava, Veronica13, OpposedForce, Lowell, Korts
(3) Erratus Apathos: nhat, DynamoXI, Cephrir
(3) DynamoXI: armlx, Battle Mage, hasdgfas
(2) nhat: animorpherv1, Cass
(1) StrangerCoug: Snaps_The_Pirate
(1) Battle Mage: Untitled
(1) Untitled: cerebus3
(1) armlx: Erratus Apathos
(1) animorpherv1: Cyberbob

(8) Not Voting: raider8169, cris150, Mr. T, maxwellhouse, Citizen Karne, MafiaMann, earthworm, animorpherv1

With 26 alive, it takes 14 votes to lynch!

A deadline will be instated when 7 or more players are red or darkred, or if the day continues until September 18th, 2008.


Last Post Count Ten of Day One


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Green - posted in last 24 hours
Blue - posted in last 48 hours
Olive - Posted in last 72 hours
Red - Posted more than 72 hours ago, prodded
Dark Red - Requiring Replacement
Dark Blue - Vacation/Limited Access

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Battle Mage

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Cass

armlx

Netlava

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Cyberbob

hasdgfas

Cephrir

raider8169

Veronica13

Snaps_The_Pirate

MafiaMann

earthworm

maxwellhouse

nhat

Untitled

OpposedForce

cris150

animorpherv1

cerebus3


Prodding Untitled.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:19 am

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mod:
are there enough colours to change that yellow to something else? If so, I'd ask very kindly... it burnses.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:27 am

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Korts wrote:Again, where have I said that this is a reason for you to be scum? You're trying hard to make this black and white. You're to be watched, but that doesn't equate by far to being actually scummy. You're in the spotlight now, too late for second thoughts, no?
I'm tackling the issue now, in case, later on, you decide to try and vote me, for starting a Pact, which, in 50 pages time, somehow causes the town to go wrong.

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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:29 am

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I like those jumping on the Cass wagon (it's a good one), but post 625 is weak.

More votes for dynamo would be in order as well. He's been talked about a lot for someone with only 3 votes. Just seems strange.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:31 am

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Lowell wrote:I like those jumping on the Cass wagon (it's a good one), but post 625 is weak.

More votes for dynamo would be in order as well. He's been talked about a lot for someone with only 3 votes. Just seems strange.
vote for him then. With you, me, and Armlx, this wagon will surely prevail!

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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:35 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Korts wrote:Again, where have I said that this is a reason for you to be scum? You're trying hard to make this black and white. You're to be watched, but that doesn't equate by far to being actually scummy. You're in the spotlight now, too late for second thoughts, no?
I'm tackling the issue now, in case, later on, you decide to try and vote me, for starting a Pact, which, in 50 pages time, somehow causes the town to go wrong.

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And you think I could trust you (or anyone else in the town for that matter) not to call me out on such complete BS?
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:36 am

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@Lowell, why is it weak?
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:18 am

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@Lowell, why is it weak?
I'm interested in this as well.

I like how Lowell also says that Dynamo is mentioned a lot and has few votes, but in doing so mentions him and doesn't vote/
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:28 am

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Korts wrote:
SC wrote:Cephrir really did say he hopes scum gets in the treaty, which came off to me as his being scum itself.
It's this part that I can't follow. I don't understand how the first part warrants the other.
There are not many scenarios that I can think of where town should be hoping out loud that scum does something specific. It's not a scum direction per se, but it still encourages scum to act in a certain way, which probably won't be beneficial to town.

I know I'm going out of context, but this would also encourage specific scum actions: Let's say I'm the doctor and I announced out loud that I wanted to protect nhat. If scum has a roleblocker, he or she might as well block me while scum offs him. If nhat is scum and/or scum does not have a roleblocker, they will get rid of me that night unless a more dangerous (to them) power role shows up.

Get the connection?
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SC wrote: Laughed at Korts's pact made in retaliation to his own.
Korts wrote:Um, you took it seriously?
No, hence why I laughed.
Heh. But in the original context, you said it was BM who laughed at my coalition, and you never implied (at least not in the originally quoted post) that you acknowledged it as a joke.
I have a tendency to drop the first person pronoun when it's clear that I'm the one being referred to, but I wasn't ><
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:29 am

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Mod: Please fix my quote tags. It should be nested Korts/SC/Korts/SC/Korts one inside the other.


I'm confused by the structure of the quotes, so I can't seem to figure it out. Sorry.
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:11 pm

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armlx wrote:
@Lowell, why is it weak?
I'm interested in this as well.

I like how Lowell also says that Dynamo is mentioned a lot and has few votes, but in doing so mentions him and doesn't vote/
Yeah yeah I realize the hypocrisy. Problem is I really like the Cass wagon as well.

Korts' post seemed like a stretch. Looks like he wants on the wagon but can't really think of why, so he made something up. I highly doubt anyone would FOSbus a scumbuddy who only had 1 vote, when 12 are required for lynch.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:13 pm

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I highly doubt anyone would FOSbus a scumbuddy who only had 1 vote, when 12 are required for lynch.
I don't.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:18 pm

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Korts wrote:
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Korts wrote:Again, where have I said that this is a reason for you to be scum? You're trying hard to make this black and white. You're to be watched, but that doesn't equate by far to being actually scummy. You're in the spotlight now, too late for second thoughts, no?
I'm tackling the issue now, in case, later on, you decide to try and vote me, for starting a Pact, which, in 50 pages time, somehow causes the town to go wrong.

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And you think I could trust you (or anyone else in the town for that matter) not to call me out on such complete BS?
if not, why are you bring up said 'complete BS' as a scenario now?

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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:18 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Mod: Please fix my quote tags. It should be nested Korts/SC/Korts/SC/Korts one inside the other.
rofl. Remind me never to Mod a game for you! :P

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