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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:51 am

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Do we really need a more in-depth response than that?

I could barely be bothered to read that as it was.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:59 am

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Nope, still not seeing how this relates to hypotheticals atall.

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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:07 am

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And Tar, has anyone else really been scumhunting that hard? There has been a lot more speculation on set up than just from me. You are tunneling me on this point and I have no idea why. I half think you are pushing a misbomb on me because you think you can make it stick. Quite frankly, I find everything about IIoA on my part utter bullshit. This is a different set up, so naturally there will be questions. I scumhunt more effectively when I have more data to know what works and doesn't in a set up. The scum bomb question, probably your strongest point, was actually quite innocent, because I'd rather know on the offchance I'm in endgame and the bombers are scummy as hell. I still don't see a way for scum to lock victory doing that though, so it's a moot point. And if I DID see something I sure as hell wouldn't tell everyone unless I also knew the way to stop it. Everything else is basically kinda...nothing.

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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:27 am

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I could barely be bothered to read that as it was.
.......

And fl's last vote is beyond OMGUS.
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:27 am

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Have you seen how many posts I've made?

I pity the fool who does a P-b_P analysis on me!

Maybe I'll post some more...

BM, for real, I'm not seeing how you think Coron claimed scum. Unless you're thinking the hypothetical is a slip that shows his real intentions or some other theory like that, all I'm seeing is you pushing on a dead horse.

And the question becomes, why?
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:30 am

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armlx wrote:[

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You know, BM asked you to explain Coron's 'slip up'. Are you going to?
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:32 am

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You know, BM asked you to explain Coron's 'slip up'. Are you going to?
I did. I responded by asking him if he was town, and was confident Player Y was town, if he would do something that would incriminate both of them.

Hint: The answer is no.
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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:40 am

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I know the answer is no (unless you're distancing from a mason partner), I'm just not sure that answers the question BM asked.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:42 am

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I know the answer is no (unless you're distancing from a mason partner), I'm just not sure that answers the question BM asked.
It does, unless I misunderstand the slip entirely. From what I see, BM is attacking Coron for saying he didn't want to put suspicion on me or himself.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:50 am

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And fl's last vote is beyond OMGUS.
Is this in a good way or bad way?
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:53 am

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As far as I can tell, what Coron said was that if he was scum and you were his buddy and he said you looked town and then one of you was lynched, the other one would look really scummy which is why it's better for scum to sometimes tell the truth and say a townie looks townie.

It all comes back to Coron's arguement that we should trust him because of his reputation which BM says is bull because Coron might be scum.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:55 am

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^ To Armlx, love 'n kisses, M4yhem.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:56 am

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Is this in a good way or bad way?
Bad. There's no logic behind your vote, only OMGUS.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:04 am

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Bad. There's no logic behind your vote, only OMGUS.
And I said as such, did I not? It's pure OMGUS for no reason. Felt like a good idea at the time.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:04 am

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EBWOP: Though, I could argue, if there were logic behind it, that Tar is blatantly setting me up for a misbomb and at least most of the people actually posting are smart enough to realize his case is crap.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:09 am

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And I said as such, did I not? It's pure OMGUS for no reason. Felt like a good idea at the time.
Yeah, but votes without reason aren't good.......
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:24 am

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M4yhem wrote:As far as I can tell, what Coron said was that if he was scum and you were his buddy and he said you looked town and then one of you was lynched, the other one would look really scummy which is why it's better for scum to sometimes tell the truth and say a townie looks townie.

It all comes back to Coron's arguement that we should trust him because of his reputation which BM says is bull because Coron might be scum.
This man knows what is going on. I am impressed.

Armlx apparently missed the "slip" as much as I did my first like 4 times reading it. What they are saying is that by not explicitly saying in that post that I was referring to a hypothetical in which both Armlx and I were scum, that I claimed scum with armlx. I felt that it was pretty obvious from the post that I quoted that that's what I'm referring to. I auto delete things more than 1 quote deep most of the time, but if you refer back to BM's post to which I was responding, you'll see that the post he responded to with that particular statement EXPLICITLY states that we are for this exercize to assume that I am scum. My post was simply an extention of that.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:26 am

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Yeah, but votes without reason aren't good.......
No, they generally aren't. But, it's not votes that REALLY lynch this game. It's DGB's whim, god help us all. It's not really as critical as it could be.
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:27 am

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What they are saying is that by not explicitly saying in that post that I was referring to a hypothetical in which both Armlx and I were scum, that I claimed scum with armlx.
Yeah... that's what I thought it was, but the sentence was obviously hypothetical.....
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:28 am

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You're easily impressed, Coron.

I'm still not sure if BM is being honest or not when he says you claimed scum. I can see
how it might look like that, but who claims scum, really?

It's fairly clear what you really meant.

(Not that that means Coron isn't scum- at this stage, who knows).
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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:30 am

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No, they generally aren't. But, it's not votes that REALLY lynch this game. It's DGB's whim, god help us all. It's not really as critical as it could be.
............

If we are using a voting system, we are assuming it means the same thing as it does in a normal game. The fact you are trivializing it does not help us at all.
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:36 am

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If we are using a voting system, we are assuming it means the same thing as it does in a normal game. The fact you are trivializing it does not help us at all.
Fair enough. To be honest though I feel that Tar is purposely pushing a mislynch on me because my meta shows it's pretty easy to do. His case feels scummy. I'm keeping my vote on him beyond the OMGUS. I still don't think it'll matter for much in the end. Hell, Bad Idea mafia showed that.
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:38 am

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To be honest though I feel that Tar is purposely pushing a mislynch on me because my meta shows it's pretty easy to do.
Your meta is based on your first couple of games of mafia, where a mislynch is always easy to push pretty much regardless of person.

And Bad idea mafia like 50 people could pull the trigger. Only one can here, and I know DGB knows it is in the town's best interest to follow the voting system unless we don't let the voting system do anything for us.
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:38 am

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If I get a bomb, I'm only going to count the votes of people I like. :P
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:40 am

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BTW, those in doubt of DGB being logic, I cite President Mafia, where she claimed she would be 100% vote following in her executions when elected (ignore the part where she false claimed to draw the scum kill).
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