Mushroom Kingdom Mafia (Game over!)

[Surye]

That depends entirely on how useful the information actually is. Obviously, there's no way for the town to decide that without telling us, but if you think the information (or lack thereof) is particularly useful to the town, then please claim.

Well, it basically hinges on how much everyone believes Surye's assumption that Bowser might be a double voter. If so I can help isolate his position a little bit.

If it's this important, I'll explain my reasoning. First, I'm assuming no triple voter, because that would be insane. So that means there is 3 double voters on the lynch. Gimbo/Lord Guri is a double voter as well. That's 4 known double voters in this game, which leads me to believe atleast ONE is most likely scum. I am more sure of this then I am sure that it's bowser for sure, but as the boss, I can see it matching flavor. Also, assuming daisy works the way I understand, scum was under the impression they had peach, and to would be more incliened to bus a fellow scum to help prevent bowser from being lynched. I think for this reason, bowser would be on Kort's lynch, and since I think there's a double voting scum on there, I think it's pretty likely it's Bowser.

Mod edit
Visible Votecount:
Alabaska J (2): farside22, forbiddanlight

Not voting (15): skitzer, Natirasha, somestrangeflea, Surye, killa seven, Gremwell, Alabaska J, ting =), DarlaBlueEyes, Lord Gurgi, Cream147, Riceballtail, ashmite84, goborage, populartajo

With 17 alive it takes 9 real votes to lynch.

[forbiddanlight]

Fair enough. Looking at it that way, I think I'll reveal.

I'm Luigi, and under certain circumstances I get double votes. Well, riceballtail, IIRC, is yoshi and said that me and Mario get double votes if he's voting, though his vote doesn't count, right?

Now, how this helps. I was obviously the hammer with 2 votes.

Vote count of lynch:
Korts (11): Alabaska J, Gremwell, somestrangeflea, Riceballtail, Natirasha, Surye,

forbiddanlight

Bold = accounted for.

Now, we know RBT doesn't get his own vote

Korts (11): Alabaska J, Gremwell, somestrangeflea,

Riceballtail

, Natirasha, Surye,

forbiddanlight

This narrows it down to five people. However, I suspect Mario is on this wagon as well. If they choose to claim, we are down to four possiblities. If someone finds Gremwell's pseudo confirmation, it's down to three. Nat is supposedly a regular toad, so if you want we can potentially narrow it to two possiblities. And would you look at that, we ALREADY are planning to lynch one of them.

I may have made too many assumptions and this could be useless. However, I think it helps sorts things out and hopefully might find scum. Surye is right though, 4 town double voters is ridiculous. One scum double voter is a good balance to that.

[farside22]

Gee and guess who was on that wagon for Korts? Alabaska.
Any other questions?

Give one coin to populartajo

[forbiddanlight]

EBWOP: Basically, the vote count ends up looking like:


Korts (11): Alabaska J,

Gremwell

, somestrangeflea,

Riceballtail

,

Natirasha

, Surye,

forbiddanlight

italics equal mostly accounted for, and any of those three unmodified names could be mario.

[Surye]

Give one coin to populartajo

Ho hum, I aint got nothing.

[Surye]

Huh, this claim, and my poor math, complicates things. My assumtion was:
4 - single voters
3 - double voters
4+(3*2) = 11

But it equals 10. You claim suggests we have atleast 1 non-voter, so...
1 - single voters
5 - double voters
is the only way I could see it equaling 11, which is insane. So.... any idea what is going on?

[forbiddanlight]

I could be wrong. I thought riceballtail said he had no vote but he gives MArio and Luigi another vote?

[Riceballtail]

Does your condition for being a double-voter say anything about me? My vote would be doubling yours to a four count if that were the case.

[forbiddanlight]

Claim time I guess...

Yoshi - I get no items, no coins, and no vote (ever, and no you can't give them to me, they become forfeit when anything is in my possession). At night I can attempt to eat a scum. If I hit a scum, they don't get a vote the next day. I am town.

My PM confirms the existence of both Mario and Luigi, but only those two roles. I suspect that they know who each other are.

Oh yeah, we don't

This means I voted with one of the brothers yesterday.

I ate farside last night.

@Tajo: Good kill, but that doesn't really help us confirm those two.

No, my vote still counts for zero. I just double what their vote's value is. Clearly, this is what made the lynch happen. Whoever was voting, was a doublevoter as well.

Yeah, here it is. I collected the quotes I remembered.

[forbiddanlight]

Does your condition for being a double-voter say anything about me? My vote would be doubling yours to a four count if that were the case.

It only says under certain conditions. I'm a single voter normally. It also says "Count for more than one vote", not specifically 2 votes. Maybe my claim wasn't as useful as I thought :S...sorry.

[Riceballtail]

Day two's real votes:

mr. incrediball (13): iamausername (0), Gremwell(?), populartajo(0? 1?), Alabaska J(?), forbiddanlight(1-2), Thesweatpantsninja(1), farside22(?), DarlaBlueEyes(?), somestrangeflea(?), Riceballtail(*)

[forbiddanlight]

mr. incrediball (13): iamausername (0), Gremwell(?), populartajo(0? 1?), Alabaska J(?), forbiddanlight(1-2), Thesweatpantsninja(1), farside22(?), DarlaBlueEyes(?), somestrangeflea(?), Riceballtail(*)

If you were on that wagon, it's be 2, provided your claim is true. Well, mine too :S.

[Riceballtail]

Well, I know that I made the count go from under 12 to 13, so we know that my vote had to make at least two more to the count.

[Surye]

Well, I think I know who mario is now >_> I don't know how constructive all this talk is, as I'm guessing other people are seeing what I am seeing.

[populartajo]

Mario claim please.

[forbiddanlight]

Well, I think I know who mario is now >_> I don't know how constructive all this talk is, as I'm guessing other people are seeing what I am seeing.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious to me too. Sorry...I honestly thought we were isolating Bowser or at least some scum :S.

[Riceballtail]

But, if I know who Mario is, and we know who Luigi is, we can probably stack the vote count really high. I'm sure Mario/Luigi have some kind of synergy with their votes as well.

[Surye]

But, if I know who Mario is, and we know who Luigi is, we can probably stack the vote count really high. I'm sure Mario/Luigi have some kind of synergy with their votes as well.

FL's claim didn't seem like that's true.

[forbiddanlight]

But, if I know who Mario is, and we know who Luigi is, we can probably stack the vote count really high. I'm sure Mario/Luigi have some kind of synergy with their votes as well.

I have no indications whether this is true or not. All I have is certain circumstances. Given your claim, mario probably has the same thing. It's possible we affect each other's votes, but I certainly don't know anything about it.

[somestrangeflea]

Good to join the pseudoconfirmed

That reminds me...

List of possible confirmed

Cream
Ashmite
Farside
Natirasha
Lord Guri
Gremweel
TSPN

I may be missing something but why is Gremwell on this list?

I'm semi confirmed from way back. I feathered tspn N1 and was a candidate for being stared to confirm the 2 of us, but pop killed armlx instead.

Ah yes, that. I was somewhat confused because everyone on that list barring you and TSPN had

roleclaimed

.

Forbiddin light is town.

Wait hang on.
How come?

Wait... I'm confused. Maybe I missed something, but the real vote count shows populartajo with a real vote? I thought he didn't have one, per Gimbo's 1up?

This is important and needs to be resolved ASAP because it brings a confirmed into question.

I saw the item, I think this may be a mod slip, but we'll see.

Bear in mind that if the number beside "Not Voting" in the Real Votecount represents votes rather than players then Lord Gurgi has also snapped back to being a single voter.

[Riceballtail]

Oh, to add in to today's count, I ate ting last night.

[Surye]

ssf brings up a good point about populartajo/Lord Guri. We need this resolved...

Mod: Are the vote counts correct?

[Natirasha]

Give 2 coins to Populartajo

Give 1 coin to Populartajo

The second trasaction will fail. I also have a mushroom for some reason. Anyways, Suyre's looking quite scummy right now.

[Surye]

Give 2 coins to Populartajo

Give 1 coin to Populartajo

The second trasaction will fail. I also have a mushroom for some reason. Anyways, Suyre's looking quite scummy right now.

Really?

[Natirasha]

Give 2 coins to Populartajo

Give 1 coin to Populartajo

The second trasaction will fail. I also have a mushroom for some reason. Anyways, Suyre's looking quite scummy right now.

Really?

Yes. I can't tell why, but something is off about you the last page or so.