Open 801: Trust Fall (Game Over)

[Gloria Cleary]

wow

Fidget is bleeding obvtown. RR scum confirmed.

[Uncrowned]

hectic actually proposed this time

and this ring... oh my! it's massive. how much did this cost?!?!

I... I'll have to think about it

[Equinox]

Trust Count 1.15

Uncrowned (2) - Necessary Sneasel, Hectic

Not Trusting (8) - Akarin, Fidget, Jake The Wolfie, Rainbow Reads, Gloria Cleary, shellyc, Uncrowned, PookyTheMagicalBear

The deadline is Sunday, December 6, 2020, at 7:30 PM EST (UTC-5), which is in (expired on 2020-12-06 19:30:00).

[shellyc]

guys am i required to change my meta back to my old town meta

also rip equinox

[shellyc]

I feel the opposite way about Rainbow. They've been bringing out flashy readslists, but in reality they haven't really done anything to further town wincon with them at all. After all, they haven't really shown us their work, no? So it really only gives us the vague impression that Rainbow is solving, without them actually having to show us any of their solving.

rainbow's gloria read is indicative of "scum who thought a town looked misexecutable through their iso and didnt have an awareness of the gamestate"

jake has been active on site. i don't trust ellitell nowadays.

[shellyc]

No, I only mean the part about scum being guiltied if they trust each other. Not his theory concerning Pooky/Uncrowned. Uncrowned is very likely town though.

Oh. I see.

This is how I'm feeling currently. No heavy review, just from catching up. I want to believe I've got both scum below the dash, but beyond that, not so confident.

{Uncrowned}
{Akarin, Sneasel}
{Gloria}
-
{Hectic}
{shelly}
{Rainbow, Jake, Pooky}

I'd mayyybe tentatively roll with this with me!town

rainbow jake pooky is the defacto PoE for us atm. none of these people should be paired up.

[shellyc]

fidget reminds me of death curse!her'
gloria as well

hectic i really dont know about please solve yourself through associatives

[Akarin]

I want to propose to a really questionable townread just to piss off Dad.

[Akarin]

Fidget, did you still have questions about my Rainbow-Jake thought or did that pretty much answer itself as the day went on.

I'm less hot on that right now by the way, but I was kind of hoping Jake or Rainbow would actually react to it more. Or other people.

I don't really think all the scum can be in people making a point of not trying though.

[Akarin]

Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.

[Fidget]

Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.

Perhaps not. There's plenty of room for shelly, Hectic, or maybe Gloria to be partnered with one of them, I'm thinking. Makes it tricky.

I do somewhat believe there's at least one scum in there, though. And with no discernable way to tell which one, makes me not want to pair them much.

rainbow's gloria read is indicative of "scum who thought a town looked misexecutable through their iso and didnt have an awareness of the gamestate"

jake has been active on site. i don't trust ellitell nowadays.

What in Gloria's ISO would cause negligent scum to believe she is miselimable? Isn't it easier to ignore the content of someone's posts and just go with what the majority say are easy miselims?

I think activity tells as a whole are bad, but when I've noticed Jake do it at least once before, it is harder to ignore.

[shellyc]

What in Gloria's ISO would cause negligent scum to believe she is miselimable? Isn't it easier to ignore the content of someone's posts and just go with what the majority say are easy miselims?

if I didnt have meta experience on gloria i'd be quite ambivalent on the content inside the iso

what makes you think that two lurker/quiet scum are implausible?

[Gloria Cleary]

Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.

Why not? Everyone else seems townier. However, the reason why I think RR/Jake is because I thought it weird that town!Jake would try to bait Pooky into trust falling him because Pooky is at the bottom of everyone’s readslist, so it paranoid me into thinking that maybe she tmi knows Pooky is lhf town. RR has seriously questionable reads and Jake didn’t seem to thrilled with being paired up with RR.

Alternatively, it’s also possible that Jake/Pooky could possibly be doing some kind of scum theatre and RR/Pooky scum distancing. If Pooky is scum, then he’s playing it like there’s no associatives between him and his buddy. That said, based off of Jake’s posts to Pooky and RR’s suspicious reads, I lean to Jake/RR as the team. Not really convinced I’m seeing Hideyoshi Pooky here. However, him not giving any reads at all isn’t great. However eventhough I disliked his HURT on Sneasel, I’m kind of buying his irritation with him but that could also be NAI. since he “duh’d” me in Hideyoshi so it’s also possible for scum!Pooky to be annoyed.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't need to give reads because if I pair my daughters off correctly we win the game.

[Gloria Cleary]

Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.

Perhaps not. There's plenty of room for shelly, Hectic, or maybe Gloria to be partnered with one of them, I'm thinking. Makes it tricky.

I do somewhat believe there's at least one scum in there, though. And with no discernable way to tell which one, makes me not want to pair them much.

rainbow's gloria read is indicative of "scum who thought a town looked misexecutable through their iso and didnt have an awareness of the gamestate"

jake has been active on site. i don't trust ellitell nowadays.

What in Gloria's ISO would cause negligent scum to believe she is miselimable? Isn't it easier to ignore the content of someone's posts and just go with what the majority say are easy miselims?

I think activity tells as a whole are bad, but when I've noticed Jake do it at least once before, it is harder to ignore.

@Fidget, why do you think you’d be sr me here if it weren’t for Death Curse? I know you liked Rockhopper as well, so I really don’t understand your paranoia on me at all. Why wouldn’t negligent scum think I’m miselimable? I’m very obviously town here and it seriously baffles me how you’re not seeing it, yet.

Interestingly enough, that’s why I’m not sold on Pooky!scum because his reaction to RR putting me in the red means he’s tr me. I actually think his shocked reaction probably means he isn’t buddies with RR. So if Jake is town, then there’s someone wrong I’m tr here. I have no idea who yet.

Hectic should probably be locktowning me here but his ISO seems townie so I’m kind of perplexed about that.

Irrespective of alignment, Pooky is probably not aligned with RR or extremely unlikely tin foil Sneasel (who I still think is town but might possibly reacess if Pooky were to obvtown at some point. Reason being that town!Pooky sometimes has some pretty good reads but since he’s clearly not doing anything to look town yet, I’ll assume that my Sneasel read is correct.

My confidence in Shelley!town is even stronger now because it’s clear that her read on me isn’t just connected to her Pooky read, which I had been slightly paranoid about.

[Gloria Cleary]

I don't need to give reads because if I pair my daughters off correctly we win the game.

Who would you like Akarin and Fidget to be paired with?

Posts like these make me think it isn’t Pooky.

One or both scum in RR/Jake.

Uncrowned/Fidget/Shelley top town reads,

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

They have to come to me and ask for permission Gloria.

that's how the game works.

My girls will not go begging for somebody else's love.

[Gloria Cleary]

They have to come to me and ask for permission Gloria.

that's how the game works.

My girls will not go begging for somebody else's love.

Again doubt. :/ I thought you were actually going to give us some reads finally.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i kinda suck at game-state reads

esp in this game where scum will slide all over the place

im more of a 1 person at a time reader

[Gloria Cleary]

i kinda suck at game-state reads

esp in this game where scum will slide all over the place

im more of a 1 person at a time reader

Well I think you’re tr me. Would that be correct?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yup

[Gloria Cleary]

@Shelley, I think you may possibly be wrong on Pooky and not just because he’s correctly reading me. It’s extremely subtle granted but if you reread him in Hideyoshi again, I think you will realize that there’s something slightly off about him tonally in that which I’m not picking up here. I think if you ISO ANY Pooky scumgame you will find that too.

It’s not very obvious to most people but the one difference I find between scum and town!Pooky is this very slight tonal difference in his play. I’m actually leaning now to taking him out of my PoE which of course means that if it isn’t exactly Jake/RR than at least one of my other reads is wrong but not as yet sure whom.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i can stay behind its fine

i just need to identify a decent man for each of my girls and we win

[Gloria Cleary]

I’m starting to think I should listen to my gut when it comes to reading you. I was extremely paranoid on you in Hideyoshi at a gut level but ignored it. I haven’t been feeling that here. Of course, that didn’t prove helpful with Noraa in Death Curse but it is true for many players. Isis would also be a good example of a player I have confidence in correctly tone/gutreading.

[shellyc]

hm.

i have the impression that town!pooky is more abrasive/spontaneous while scum!pooky loves to buddy/present himself as likeable and I think the latter is happening rn