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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:07 am

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In post 137, Hectic wrote:
In post 127, shellyc wrote:hectic is amazing

I trust Hectic


this is a bit serious i totally get the Hectic Townvibes :tm: and the iso has a fluff to seriousposting ratio that i like
give me some time to think about it, shelly
Oh missed this. So maybe it isn’t Shelley.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:23 am

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In post 236, Hectic wrote:HURT: Rainbow Reads - coming out strong with those reads and then dipping is meh. Could you explain the Uncrowned and shelly ones?
HURT: shellyCult - waiting on answers, you wouldn't force a scumread on me now, would you?

Sneasel's posting seems okay
In post 563, Hectic wrote:
In post 509, Akarin wrote:Like I get where y'all are coming from, but I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.
Rainbow always plays like this, it's hard to get a read there

She placed Gloria and Fidget lower once they started having doubts on rainbows, but it's hard to tell if it's towny OMGUS or I mean, what purpose does it even serve if it's scum-motivated OMGUS, it's not like they're trying to push the reads. I think I'm like nulltown there
In post 564, Hectic wrote:Fidget! This is the lowest you've placed me in one of your readslists for a long while. You don't feel my towny no-filter resonate through?

shelly, why'd you give up on trying to read me and just wanting to use associates instead? What changed?
Is Hectic’s RR defense making sense to anyone?

Also both Sneasel and Hectic trusted Uncrowned. I think it’s kind of weird for scum!Sneasel to try to compete for the same tf. Just like with Jake, how does it help Hectic for buddy Sneasel to possibly poach Uncrowned from him?

Yeah, I think it’s probably RR or I’m reading someone wrong.

Basically, it makes no sense for buddy Jake to shade the player his buddy wanted to tf with.
It also makes even less sense for buddy Sneasel to be competing with Hectic for Uncrowned.

Pooky is obvtown now.

My only issue is that would Hectic be this content to leave with inactive buddy RR. or was he that confident that RR would get paired before Jake/Pooky?
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:42 am

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I might have some paranoia on Akarin for wanting the RR/Jake pairing first except that she tf’d me at the same time Hectic was trying to poach Uncrowned, so for the same reasons as Sneasel and Jake, Akarin is also clear. Fidget is purer than pure.

Everything points to RR and Hectic defended them way too passionately, so yeah. I think RR is his buddy. If there is a world where Fidget is ever scum here, I’m fine with losing to that but seriously doubt it.

I think it’s Hectic/RR

Sneasel/Akarin/Jake are all clear for trying in one way or the other to interfere with Hectic tfing Uncrowned.

Sneasel and Akarin for directly competing.

Actually, that could possibly be interpreted as her pushing Uncrowned to accept Hectic, so maybe I shouldn’t be so quick to clear Jake.

I think if we have Jake/RR as unpaired, we probably win.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:52 am

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In post 547, Jake The Wolfie wrote:I think this has already been stated, but I just wanted to throw it out there that UC is probably (though not confirmed) town.

However, I'm pretty sure the next thought I had hasn't been said yet:
Could Uncrowned be deepwolfing to get their partner on the bench of trust fallees?
In post 550, Jake The Wolfie wrote:
In post 547, Jake The Wolfie wrote:Could Uncrowned be deepwolfing to get their partner on the bench of trust fallees?
After reconsideration, this question implies that the town is doing an awful job.
In post 608, Jake The Wolfie wrote:So I just asked Eqi what would happen if one scum trusted the other and they said that it would show up on the trust count.
Actually Jake was re-evaluating Uncrowned so Idk but is it really that easy that it’s just RR? But the way Hectic so passionately defended him makes me think it is. He was just too passionate in his defence of a completely null slot for RR not to be a buddy.

Scum only defends a townie that passionately when it’s in their wincon to do so and then he makes that defence look even more sus by putting RR as “nulltown”.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:59 am

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In post 563, Hectic wrote:
In post 509, Akarin wrote:Like I get where y'all are coming from, but
I just do not buy that a scumteam with 2 of Jake/Rainbow/Pooky decide to approach the game like this.
Rainbow always plays like this, it's hard to get a read there

She placed Gloria and Fidget lower once they started having doubts on rainbows, but it's hard to tell if it's towny OMGUS or I mean,
what purpose does it even serve if it's scum-motivated OMGUS, it's not like they're trying to push the reads. I think I'm like nulltown there
Rule of the 3 anyone?

I think Hectic might have just tmi’d his buddy here. O_o

Hectic’s weird hedge on RR despite a passionate defence and only putting her at “nulltown” is very telling.
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:34 am

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In post 868, Necessary Sneasel wrote:
In post 782, shellyc wrote:im actually mad that people that are likely!town twisted my word choices into a "tmi slip" though
elaborate on why this annoys you, you're capable scum right so surely you get called out on shit all the time?
i was sorta in a not great mood earlier so uh

has pooky been conftowned or...?
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:35 am

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i thought rainbow was an alt, how could hectic say "rainbow always plays like this" from an uninformed pov

maybe you're right gloria
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:36 am

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In post 875, Gloria Cleary wrote:
In post 137, Hectic wrote:
In post 127, shellyc wrote:hectic is amazing

I trust Hectic


this is a bit serious i totally get the Hectic Townvibes :tm: and the iso has a fluff to seriousposting ratio that i like
give me some time to think about it, shelly
Oh missed this. So maybe it isn’t Shelley.
hectic changed my post when quoting it. check the original.

I'm also conf!town due to me not accepting akarin
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:52 am

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Shelly, Gloria, Akarin, and myself are all confirmed town, to everybody who missed bits and pieces of that. More later.
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:22 am

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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:59 am

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I agree with Gloria's thoughts on Rainbow, those same posts have me worried too.

I'm just also worried that it's not
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being town in one of those posts, a lot of people were putting Hectic in definitely-not-scum territory, I don't think people trying to interfere with that in subtle ways means anything.
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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:00 am

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At this point the Rainbow Readlists seem completely pointless
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:05 am

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EBWOP
In post 885, Akarin wrote: I don't think people trying to interfere with that in subtle ways means anything.
I don't think people trying to interfere with the
pairing
is what I mean. Hectic would have probably paired on D2 instead of D1 if Gloria and I had left or whatever, don't think people encouraging... counterwagons? is a very meaningful thing to look at.

Phrased that too ambiguously.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:08 am

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My only hesitation with Pooky is that Pooky never proposed to Hectic. The interactions between Pooky and Hectic in those early parts of the day make me very nervous of theater.

My only hesitation on Sneasel is something I just realized is stupid. Want to reread, but I'm feeling more comfortable there all of a sudden.

It bothers me that at least one of Rainbow/Jake is basically gamethrowing and making this much tougher for us.
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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:10 am

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Like that is the laziest, most consensus readlist ever, but then what can you really do at this point.

It's like going into LYLO and only posting a readslist.
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:18 am

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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:44 am

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I would say that Hectic probably did not expect to leave so early, so do factor that in when you read through his stuff. He could not have known he'd be leaving first. It is likely he had to worry about possibly getting stuck in the bottom four.

Would he defend his partner as a result? Eh. He was always going to be the scum that got paired off first, so not really.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:45 am

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In post 890, Rainbow Reads wrote:
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What would help is if you have an opinion on who is scum here. We already know it's you, Pooky, or Jake, so the readslist is kinda redundant.
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:51 am

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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 5:51 am

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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:17 am

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No, it does matter. If you're town, you lose if you choose incorrectly. So.. what's your Pooky reasoning, then?
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 888, Akarin wrote:It bothers me that at least one of Rainbow/Jake is basically gamethrowing and making this much tougher for us.
I suppose we could put all of our efforts into reading Pooky, as a correct read on him will win the game.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:24 am

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In post 876, Gloria Cleary wrote:My only issue is that would Hectic be this content to leave with inactive buddy RR. or was he that confident that RR would get paired before Jake/Pooky?
Don't think Hectic meant to leave so quick, and even then, I'm not really sure what Hectic could do to save Rainbow, exactly. He was always going to leave before Rainbow does, that much was inevitable.
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Fri Dec 04, 2020 6:27 am

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