Alch’s entire ISO is pushing NPOM after suddenly dropping the outer push.In post 1434, Alchemist21 wrote:I possibly have more experience with FL than anyone here and his play that caught you was one of his more solid gambits.
Flavor Leaf pivots onto NPOM after NPOM says they were responsible for the wagon.In post 368, Flavor Leaf wrote:I read Battle Mage as town. I’ve never seen them scum before, but I like to trust my gut with them, and nothing seems out of place thus far.
Non Imh, meh. Don’t have a read here.
Hessian, same thing.
Ranny’s a bit weird. I’ve never played with them before. I remember slightly town reading them for the half claim surprise thing, but Titus thinks they are scum, it seems, so I think there’s a chance they are scum. I wouldn’t say they’re anywhere close to being my first pick, though.
Wiveryn, newer player. Nothing.
So there’s a lot of holes where scum could be at. I actually wanna say it’s probably more likely that the Ben wagon didn’t have much scum on it, if any. Fast wagons early happen because townies hop on and think it’s funny to get something deep.
If you don’t want a quick fade, don’t put the wagon up more.
NPOM actually looks bad because they put the E-2 vote, then Ben self voted.
I never said the quickhammer was scummy, just bad play. And I think the E-1 self votes were worse than the hammers themselves.In post 1649, MathBlade wrote:Specifically here he abandons the quick hammer scummy theory then goes Ohhhh my bad yet tomorrow never pushes outer. This is a line of incongruency that doesn’t make sense.In post 358, Alchemist21 wrote:If he’s done it before I would just think it’s impulsiveness on his part.In post 355, Battle Mage wrote:my take is he leveraged the fact I had done something like that in my last game with him, as a crutch to absolve himself of responsibility.In post 353, Alchemist21 wrote:What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf
I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
That doesn't imply he's necessarily scum, but it means it's not something I townread either.
What’s your solve Alch?In post 1352, Rannygazoo wrote:@Alchemist stop lurking and tell us your solve.
FL/NM doesn't mean outer must be scum.In post 1646, MathBlade wrote:I think both are is a possibility, but both are would mean the game would be exactly FL/NM/Outer. Possible but I don’t think it’s probable.In post 1639, Titus wrote:There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.
I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.
World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.
I am against it because of what I mentioned before.In post 1655, Titus wrote:FL/NM doesn't mean outer must be scum.In post 1646, MathBlade wrote:I think both are is a possibility, but both are would mean the game would be exactly FL/NM/Outer. Possible but I don’t think it’s probable.In post 1639, Titus wrote:There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.
I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.
World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.
If you feel this is the setup, why do you seem so against the NPOM wagon?
I’m still trying to figure that out. NPOM I’m sure of. There could be a weird bussing tactic between him and overworld but, nah that’s not right because again he would have had more certainty on whether overworld actually claimed VT or not when Ranny brought it up. FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.In post 1654, MathBlade wrote:What’s your solve Alch?In post 1352, Rannygazoo wrote:@Alchemist stop lurking and tell us your solve.
What are your reads?
And imho that’s not a misrep. You didn’t answer this anywhere I could find. Lurking can be active
Did you read his scum guide at all? This isn't outside of FL's range if FL is scum.In post 1658, Alchemist21 wrote:FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.
I’ve known him to bus exactly once. It really isn’t his style, and I’m not going by his guide, I’m going by the multiple games I’ve played with scum FL.In post 1659, Titus wrote:Did you read his scum guide at all? This isn't outside of FL's range if FL is scum.In post 1658, Alchemist21 wrote:FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.
This would be drawing attention away from the third scum.
The problem is that I have too many viable theories and not enough people active outside Math/FlavorLeaf/NPOM to really filter them down.
FL is absolutely the bussing type.In post 1658, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m still trying to figure that out. NPOM I’m sure of. There could be a weird bussing tactic between him and overworld but, nah that’s not right because again he would have had more certainty on whether overworld actually claimed VT or not when Ranny brought it up. FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.In post 1654, MathBlade wrote:What’s your solve Alch?In post 1352, Rannygazoo wrote:@Alchemist stop lurking and tell us your solve.
What are your reads?
And imho that’s not a misrep. You didn’t answer this anywhere I could find. Lurking can be active
BM/NoElim/Titus would have to have the other 2 if the Masonry is real which I am still skeptical of tbh. Take out Titus because of the Town headache and you get NPOM/BM/NoElim as most likely.
I’ll be afk tonight that will helpIn post 1659, Titus wrote:Did you read his scum guide at all? This isn't outside of FL's range if FL is scum.In post 1658, Alchemist21 wrote:FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.
This would be drawing attention away from the third scum.
The problem is that I have too many viable theories and not enough people active outside Math/FlavorLeaf/NPOM to really filter them down.
Because where the fuck even are they? We can’t even get the rest of you to vote obvscum NPOM; there’s no sense in adding extra noise for wagons that shouldn’t happen today.In post 1661, MathBlade wrote:And why haven’t you been poking BM/No Elim to sort that? Why was your ISO all NPOM before replace in and not sorting the quick hammer by Outer which you noted was weird? Why did that disappear? You didn’t say the word scummy but the implication is there.
This reads like you don't want NPOM to be scum because you want to make the hero play and fulfill Superbowl's wishes.In post 1657, MathBlade wrote:I am against it because of what I mentioned before.In post 1655, Titus wrote:FL/NM doesn't mean outer must be scum.In post 1646, MathBlade wrote:I think both are is a possibility, but both are would mean the game would be exactly FL/NM/Outer. Possible but I don’t think it’s probable.In post 1639, Titus wrote:There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.
I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.
World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.
If you feel this is the setup, why do you seem so against the NPOM wagon?
I have had a townread on NPOM before and looking at their ISO to see if their claim had merit only solidified the read.
It’s possible NPOM is scum here. It’s just if NPOM is scum, FL scum and Outer/Alch scum regain so much footing and become nigh on impossible to elim.
On the other hand outer is more likely scum and the better strategic play. We have one wrong elim left assuming 3 scum. If Outer happens to be town then NPOM scum is likely confirmed.
Mainly the Outer elim imho has the best chance imho of flipping red and better for long term play if I am wrong. It’s mainly strategic and wagon analysis.
I am the biggest anti busser on this site, what’re you talking about.In post 1661, MathBlade wrote:FL is absolutely the bussing type.In post 1658, Alchemist21 wrote:I’m still trying to figure that out. NPOM I’m sure of. There could be a weird bussing tactic between him and overworld but, nah that’s not right because again he would have had more certainty on whether overworld actually claimed VT or not when Ranny brought it up. FL’s not the bussing type so I’m ruling out the idea that that’s s/s.In post 1654, MathBlade wrote:What’s your solve Alch?In post 1352, Rannygazoo wrote:@Alchemist stop lurking and tell us your solve.
What are your reads?
And imho that’s not a misrep. You didn’t answer this anywhere I could find. Lurking can be active
BM/NoElim/Titus would have to have the other 2 if the Masonry is real which I am still skeptical of tbh. Take out Titus because of the Town headache and you get NPOM/BM/NoElim as most likely.
He’s a gamestate controller. That means anything to control the narrative. Check his link in his sig.
(Titus note the soft defense of FL again)
And why haven’t you been poking BM/No Elim to sort that? Why was your ISO all NPOM before replace in and not sorting the quick hammer by Outer which you noted was weird? Why did that disappear? You didn’t say the word scummy but the implication is there.
Yes, policy lynch the hammerer.In post 1668, Rannygazoo wrote:Superbowl9 had wishes?
The thing that sets NPOM apart as town to me is that it neatly gives us Outer and FL as scum opposing him. I’m not happy about have to choose between liars and quickhammerers and a bunch of anti-town players in general but that’s where we are.
It’s PoE. We are in one of three worlds.In post 1664, Titus wrote:This reads like you don't want NPOM to be scum because you want to make the hero play and fulfill Superbowl's wishes.In post 1657, MathBlade wrote:I am against it because of what I mentioned before.In post 1655, Titus wrote:FL/NM doesn't mean outer must be scum.In post 1646, MathBlade wrote:I think both are is a possibility, but both are would mean the game would be exactly FL/NM/Outer. Possible but I don’t think it’s probable.In post 1639, Titus wrote:There's at least one scum in NPOM and FL most likely as both are claiming a gambit that busted the other.
Mathblade and Ranny are claimed masons.
OutWorlder is a clamed bodyguard.
Titus and Alchemist claim headaches.
I think that FL and Mathblade are both town, or if one is scum its FL and he's pulling a double gambit with NPOM.
I don't like any of the three slots though that are outside NPOM/FL/The Masons, which puts me in a bit of a quandry because not everyone can be scum.
World's shittiest readslist but at least it'll help get people into the game.
If you feel this is the setup, why do you seem so against the NPOM wagon?
I have had a townread on NPOM before and looking at their ISO to see if their claim had merit only solidified the read.
It’s possible NPOM is scum here. It’s just if NPOM is scum, FL scum and Outer/Alch scum regain so much footing and become nigh on impossible to elim.
On the other hand outer is more likely scum and the better strategic play. We have one wrong elim left assuming 3 scum. If Outer happens to be town then NPOM scum is likely confirmed.
Mainly the Outer elim imho has the best chance imho of flipping red and better for long term play if I am wrong. It’s mainly strategic and wagon analysis.
I don't see how anyone, town or scum, reads NPOM's trajectory and thinks his claim gets stronger. Particularly one who says there's too much power anyway.
I don't really see you going all out to save NPOM here as his scum buddy because NPOM flipping scum essentially loses you the game.
Outer isn't really a claimed liar here either. NPOM is.
Your conclusions just don't make sense as either alignment and its infuritating.
If no lim and I come over, then we'd still have majority without the masons.In post 1670, Flavor Leaf wrote:The masons are hard defending scum right now, that’s why this game is fucked.
They specifically just want me to be scum and they’re letting it cloud their judge,ent, and honestly, I’m kinda done with this game.