Explosiva Mafia - GAME OVER

[Battle Mage]

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Post 181:

<snips>
Evidently. But could you be a bit more subtle about kissing her ass? 0.o
'Queen'? 'DGB seems to be helping that along already', 'good work DGB!'

Rofl. I see what you did thar.

DGB is the most important person in the game today, her and the person she blows up, so why this post? I think everyone but you actually cares that DGB has the power of Veto. In 3 minutes she could blow up anyone, but she doesn't because everyone wants to please the queen bee. If you don't please the Queen Bee you're dead.

FoS: Max

There will be a discernible difference between scum and town in this game. Town will appeal to the Bomb-holder's intelligence, and will hope that logic prevails in that way. It is Scum who i would expect to be forced to rely on begging, pleading, AtoA and the rest.

DGB is a law unto herself. I'm not going to make myself look like an ass in an attempt to be spared from dying. Any half decent player will look down upon individuals who think buddying up is their ticket to survival.

You won't please the Queen Bee by kissing her ass, because the Queen Bee has to take care first of the security of the Hive.

BM

[Battle Mage]

BattleModge, vote count please?

I like this. Coming right up!

The Modge.

BM

[Battle Mage]

I know the answer is no (unless you're distancing from a mason partner), I'm just not sure that answers the question BM asked.

It does, unless I misunderstand the slip entirely. From what I see, BM is attacking Coron for saying he didn't want to put suspicion on me or himself.

as i'm reading, i'll just point out that M4yhem is right, and you are wrong on this issue.

BM

[Coron]

I guess I have to defend my killing lurkers policy again, eh Max?

First of all, a lurker is significatly more likely to be scum than the average poster. Not posting content is a scumtell. Saying 'I can't see anything worth commenting on' is a scumtell. This is because it's much harder to produce content when you're scum. You aren't really suspicious of anyone and so you have to fake it and that's harder than making actual content which comes to you naturally as you read.

I know I post less as scum. That's true of many other people too.

Also, scum might post less to avoid saying something suspicious.

There are other reasons people don't post much, of course, but players often let you know in that case.

The other reason I'd prefer to kill a lurker is it hurts the town less if we're wrong. Say we have a scummy Twomz and a scummy Coron. If we blow up scummy Twomz
and he's town, the town loss is small. He's posted, what, three times? Twice with no content, once with innaccurate content. Coron, on the other hand, posts loads. We kill him and he's town, we lose a big chunk of protown information.

There are townies and townies, you see.

Of course ideally, we'd kill scum, not town, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think about minimizing town losses.

Also, Coronscum is far more likely to give himself or his scumbuddies away, given the range of things he comments on compared to Twomzscum.

This is about the most reasonable arguement I've seen for lurker lynches, in I dunno, forever. I agree with most of this, however I just don't think I agree with it to the degree that m4yhem does. I agree, lurkers deserve extra consideration for the reasons you've stated, however, for people who have posted more, you have more information on them, and so, if they have a high scumminess-density in their posts, it means a little more. Player A posts 1 thing that you would list as "moderately scummy", Player B has 50 posts each of which is "moderately scummy", which would you be more sure is scum? If you're logicking right, then Player B, barring outside circumstances, metas, etc.

[Battle Mage]

BTW, those in doubt of DGB being logic, I cite President Mafia, where she claimed she would be 100% vote following in her executions when elected (ignore the part where she false claimed to draw the scum kill).

and she didnt false claim to draw the scum kill, she false claimed to get elected. i think..

BM

[DrippingGoofball]

BTW, those in doubt of DGB being logic, I cite President Mafia, where she claimed she would be 100% vote following in her executions when elected (ignore the part where she false claimed to draw the scum kill).

and she didnt false claim to draw the scum kill, she false claimed to get elected. i think..

I knew I'd get one or the other... both were desirable outcomes.

[Battle Mage]

That's not what i'm questionning atall. Why are you playing Good-Cop and Bad-Cop simultaneously? I cant see what you were really hoping to achieve by asking a legitimate interrogative question, and then seemingly buddying up agreeably.

Maybe I was. Or maybe I wanted it to be known that I understand where he might be coming from, but I wanted to see what he had to say.

seems unlikely.

BM

[Coron]

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Post 181:

<snips>
Evidently. But could you be a bit more subtle about kissing her ass? 0.o
'Queen'? 'DGB seems to be helping that along already', 'good work DGB!'

Rofl. I see what you did thar.

DGB is the most important person in the game today, her and the person she blows up, so why this post? I think everyone but you actually cares that DGB has the power of Veto. In 3 minutes she could blow up anyone, but she doesn't because everyone wants to please the queen bee. If you don't please the Queen Bee you're dead.

FoS: Max

There will be a discernible difference between scum and town in this game. Town will appeal to the Bomb-holder's intelligence, and will hope that logic prevails in that way. It is Scum who i would expect to be forced to rely on begging, pleading, AtoA and the rest.

DGB is a law unto herself. I'm not going to make myself look like an ass in an attempt to be spared from dying. Any half decent player will look down upon individuals who think buddying up is their ticket to survival.

You won't please the Queen Bee by kissing her ass, because the Queen Bee has to take care first of the security of the Hive.

I already explained why I posted each of those. And I'd like to point out that many people have called DGB the queen. I wasn't the first, nor the last, I don't get the hang up.

[Battle Mage]

Vote Count

Forbiddanlight 3 (Jordan, Tarhalindur, Crazy)
Max 2 (DoS, Battousai)
Battle Mage 1 (Alvinz)
TSS 1 (Iron Man)
Haschel Cedricson 1 (Jex)
Jex 1 (Haschel Cedricson)
Tarhalindur 1 (Forbiddanlight)
Battousai 1 (Armlx)
Twomz 1 (Battle Mage)
Coron 1 (M4yhem)

Not Voting: TSS, Max, Twomz, Coron, TDC, QUEEN DGB, Killa 7

BM

M4yhem's vote history makes for interesting reading. rofl.

also,

Unvote, Vote: Coron

It's time to turn the heat up!

BM

[Coron]

also,

Unvote, Vote: Coron

It's time to turn the heat up!

BM

Hey buddy.

[Battle Mage]

also,

Unvote, Vote: Coron

It's time to turn the heat up!

BM

Hey buddy.

i'm intrigued to see where this might lead.

BM

[Max]

Coron isn't scum, I think he isn't anyway.

[Battle Mage]

Coron isn't scum, I think he isn't anyway.

Those 2 statements are VERY different, my friend. I don't think you've responded to my comments about you either.

BM

[Max]

There will be a discernible difference between scum and town in this game. Town will appeal to the Bomb-holder's intelligence, and will hope that logic prevails in that way. It is Scum who i would expect to be forced to rely on begging, pleading, AtoA and the rest.

I never said that how he pleased her was wrong just you need to feed her scum or she will take you down.

[armlx]

If what Coron says is correct, then i don't see why am i anything less than totally confirmed town. Very Happy

I don't think you understand what he is saying then.

Town will appeal to the Bomb-holder's intelligence, and will hope that logic prevails in that way. It is Scum who i would expect to be forced to rely on begging, pleading, AtoA and the rest.

I dunno about that. I think you are making too many assumptions here. The scum will use logic as well, but the later actions are scummy is the actuality.

[M4yhem]

I wasn't the first, nor the last, I don't get the hang up.

BM is an anti-royalist, clearly. Vive la republic!

Player A posts 1 thing that you would list as "moderately scummy", Player B has 50 posts each of which is "moderately scummy", which would you be more sure is scum? If you're logicking right, then Player B, barring outside circumstances, metas, etc.

Well yes, in that case, based purely on the information provided, player b. But mafia isn't a math problem. There are always outside circumstances.

I think that one newbie game is skewing your averages. If you normally post a lot as town, I'd say your 'average' town meta is posting lots and that one game is an anomaly.

I'm happy to drop this point though, before you get the spreadsheets out.

I'm 99% sold on BM being town. I agree with him that going out of your way to be nice to DGB seems a bit...creepy and a minor scumtell. Not that I'm saying we should be mean to her, obviously. I just think town ought to care more about finding scum than making sure DGB likes them.

Unvote, Vote:Twomz

purely to screw with the votecount.

I'm not happy forbiddenlight is leading. I think her play her resembles her town play in bad idea and she is too good a player, if protown, to lose day one.

But she does need to talk more.

Nudge: Forbiddenlight

[forbiddanlight]

I think her play her resembles her town play in bad idea and she is too good a player, if protown, to lose day one.

But she does need to talk more. Nudge: Forbiddenlight

Nyeh, ask the people who are playing in an ongoing about that, lol. I have an...interesting meta.

Anyway, I really haven't had much to say about the current deliberations. Or else I would have been posting.

[Battle Mage]

Unvote, Vote: Twomz

BM

[armlx]

Everyone who isn't voting needs to. Now. Info = good.

I don't understand what BM4yh3m is doing.

[Battle Mage]

Everyone who isn't voting needs to. Now. Info = good.

I don't understand what BM4yh3m is doing.

Lol, as far as i'm aware, such an account does not exist.


BM

[Twomz]

vote: BM, Mayhem, FL and Tar

Suck it >.<

[DrippingGoofball]

Twomz, are you a Jester?

[DragonsofSummer]

unvote vote Twomz

That last post is just too much.

Especially coupled with the rest of his posting in this game so far.

[Battle Mage]

vote: BM, Mayhem, FL and Tar

Suck it >.<

Apparently Twomz is in the Armlx-Camp.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I am back from Seattle, so now I can read the TEN OR SO FUCKING PAGES you guys put down in three days. I will post something later today, after I go to the grocery store.