Mini Normal 2183 | Innocent Things | Game Over!

[innocentvillager]

flip

Titus,

Town Cop Enabler

, was killed Night 1!

It is now Day 2.

Spoiler: Titus Role PM

Town Cop enabler

Hello

Titus

, and welcome to Mini Normal 2183!

You are a

Town Cop Enabler

.

If you die, any cop abilities in the game will stop working.

You win when all mafia members are dead and at least one town member is alive, or nothing can prevent the same.

Please confirm by sending me a PM with your role and alignment.

[innocentvillager]

Vote count 2.00

with 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 2 ends in (expired on 2020-12-26 12:19:38).

elimination

2. Andresvmb [0]:

3. unwnd [0]:

4. Flavor Leaf [0]:

5. Hank Spankems [0]:

6. shellyc [0]:

7. PlusJOYED [0]:

8. Not_Mafia [0]:

9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:

10. geraintm [0]:

11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:

12. Dunnstral [0]:

13. nopointinactingup [0]:

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [12]:

PlusJOYED, JohnnyFarrar, nopointinactingup, geraintm, Hank Spankems, Flavor Leaf, Andresvmb, shellyc, TheFuzzyLogic99, unwnd, Dunnstral, Not_Mafia

mod notes

Spoiler: vote log

Day 2 vote log

[geraintm]

So, had to go and check what that role was as never seen it before.

[Dunnstral]

Titus, Town Cop Enabler, was killed Night 1!

I claim cop

[PlusJOYED]

n1 results?

[PlusJOYED]

I'm at a bit of a loss. I was/am sus of people who tried to flashwagon at the last minute. I'm sorry I was absent (I feel better now) but seriously why would you try a new wagon that has a low chance of taking off when presense is low? To me that screams trying to get a nolim d1 which is rough for us.

[PlusJOYED]

this person of the reasonably actives seemed to be stalling the most
VOTE: nopoint

[Andresvmb]

Titus, Town Cop Enabler, was killed Night 1!

I claim cop

I can see that.

If you don’t get a CC I will trust that this is true and you are Town. However, this also means that you performed a check last night yeah? Who did you target?

Just thinking strategically, anybody who was voting a vanity wagon yesterday deserves scrutiny. I think the Scum intentionally wanted to avoid having the Town actually consolidate, which we need to do a better job of.

I’ll put my vote here for now - VOTE: shellyc

[Andresvmb]

To elaborate on how i find titus/dunn/N_M scummy

titus' vote on FL was to "get momentum" despite a few wagons competing for momentum. titus did not explain why he picked the FL wagon.

1. Titus [0]:
2. Andresvmb [2]: geraintm#33, JohnnyFarrar#232
3. unwnd [1]: shellyc#292
4. Flavor Leaf [3]: nopointinactingup#293, unwnd#339, Dunnstral#343
5. Hank Spankems [0]:
6. shellyc [1]: Titus#172
7. PlusJOYED [0]:
8. Not_Mafia [2]: Hank Spankems#69, PlusJOYED#365
9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:
10. geraintm [0]:
11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:
12. Dunnstral [2]: Flavor Leaf#381, Andresvmb#403
13. nopointinactingup [1]: Not_Mafia#157

this was the latest VC when titus posted his vote. it is clear that multiple players had 2-3 votes.

N_M quickly jumped onto the FL wagon bringing it to E-3 soon after titus had voted. the close proximity of these votes is out-of-place.

dunn voted FL for reasons basically voiced as a "policy" for "bad/scummy play". the bad part seems a bit like preparing for a town!FL flip and explaining "well he played bad"

which brings FL to E-2.

these votes which lack real conviction makes me really dislike this wagon.

i wont compromise on FL

i agree with the sentiment that N_M is a "policy launch" and scum can easily jump on a town!N_M

i'd give titus a shot for further contributions tbh

I would launch dunn today. as well as {nopoint, johnny}

I think shellyc has exposed herself with these posts. I think shellyc should be flipped so we can clear everybody suspected here.

[Andresvmb]

At the same time, it’s rather odd that the Scum would pick Titus as the kill. Titus was barely participating, and the only person they seemed to be gunning for was shellyc. There is a possibility here that we’re being played. Having said that, shellyc actively saying that they would look to join Dunn, but then end up on her own vanity wagon and failing to consolidate was not a good look. Frankly, I didn’t realize that no majority meant no one died. I would have played with more urgency towards the end of the day if I had seen that.

[Not_Mafia]

I claim flop

VOTE: nopointactingup

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm back! And alive! Disappointing day end

[geraintm]

At the same time, it’s rather odd that the Scum would pick Titus as the kill. Titus was barely participating, and the only person they seemed to be gunning for was shellyc. There is a possibility here that we’re being played. Having said that, shellyc actively saying that they would look to join Dunn, but then end up on her own vanity wagon and failing to consolidate was not a good look. Frankly, I didn’t realize that no majority meant no one died. I would have played with more urgency towards the end of the day if I had seen that.

You seriously thought the person with the most votes would end up dead??

[unwnd]

I am absolutely floored we somehow no-limmed

Going to be giving my thoughts (from what little we had) very soon

[PlusJOYED]

I feel like while it does implicate shelly from end of day play, it's too obvious for shelly to kill titus. That's not really shelly's scum style at least in a vacuum. Shelly usually goes for PRs and is confident in their dayplay that they'd go another target. Rather I think scum is trying to get us on shelly.
Following that I think nopoint is more likely since they were on each other. I also think there's very likely at least 1 scum in the lurkers from end of day 1 or the inactives.

[Andresvmb]

At the same time, it’s rather odd that the Scum would pick Titus as the kill. Titus was barely participating, and the only person they seemed to be gunning for was shellyc. There is a possibility here that we’re being played. Having said that, shellyc actively saying that they would look to join Dunn, but then end up on her own vanity wagon and failing to consolidate was not a good look. Frankly, I didn’t realize that no majority meant no one died. I would have played with more urgency towards the end of the day if I had seen that.

You seriously thought the person with the most votes would end up dead??

I am not sure if you’re being sarcastic or not, but yes I tend to play with those rules. Needing a majority for an execution early tends not to work out so well, but it gets easier over time.

[Andresvmb]

I feel like while it does implicate shelly from end of day play, it's too obvious for shelly to kill titus. That's not really shelly's scum style at least in a vacuum. Shelly usually goes for PRs and is confident in their dayplay that they'd go another target. Rather I think scum is trying to get us on shelly.
Following that I think nopoint is more likely since they were on each other. I also think there's very likely at least 1 scum in the lurkers from end of day 1 or the inactives.

There’s no such thing as too Scummy to be Scum. If the end of day play makes shellyc look bad, then we shouldn’t shy away from looking there closely.

[Andresvmb]

^Also that logic that the person that shellyc was on is more likely to be Scum makes no sense. Nopoint was on a wagon that had a shot at going through. shellyc was sitting alone on a wagon that was not going to happen, which clearly robs the Town of information. Just because they were cross-voting and you TR Shelly doesn’t mean that nopoint is Scum. Why wouldn’t you instead trust Titus’ voice more, who you know was Town and suspected Shelly?

[Andresvmb]

I’m not saying Titus was absolutely right and Shellyc is surely Scum. I just came out of a game where Titus was horrendously wrong repeatedly. But precisely for that reason, the Scum could think that they can get away with taking out Titus with few consequences.

[PlusJOYED]

Nah I've got a solid TR on shelly despite them seeming scummy based on titus suspecting them. I'd rather go nopoint

[PlusJOYED]

johny is also a prime suspect for me

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah, I’ll vote Nopoint. Right now, I’m thinking

Nopoint, Plus, Shelley, could be wrong with Shelly, but they’re town reading me too hard for my liking.

I feel like Plus is scum who is trying to figure out if their partner is guiltied.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm feeling these shelly thoughts honestly

[Flavor Leaf]

n1 results?

this person of the reasonably actives seemed to be stalling the most
VOTE: nopoint

This looks like distancing in case one of them got guiltied.

[nopointinactingup]

I don't get why people are blaming me, then linking me to possible partners for the No lynch yesterday when pretty much everyone was apathetic and has as much to blame.