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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:24 am

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Will not blow up today:

TDC: Good clever content, has earned the right to live.
Battousai: He's contributing enough actual content that if he's scum, he's 100% going to get caught and leave traces. Besides I don't see a case against him.
DragonsofSummer: He's making sense, he's logical, he's good.
forbiddanlight: I just re-read. Nah. Not scum.
Haschel: Little content, but so far, so good. He also noticed Crazy vs. Iron Man weirdness.
Jex: Makes sense so far.
M4yhem: As townie as they get.

My scumdar rattles:

alvinz95: Little content, seems to play innocent at every corner.
Crazy: Attention to Iron Man pretty odd. I don't get it. Makes stronger case against forbiddanlight.
Max: Definitely some weirdness detected. Under observation.

My scumdar shoots sparks:

Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
BM: I just learned that BM is not a girl! I so know that he gave me the bomb.
Coron: Can't help but think BM and Coron are buddies. Look, Coron confessed! He keeps confessing scum.
Tarhalindur: Aye, he's under fire, now he's doing the disappearing act...

Potentially explodalicious surprises:

Jex: Almost no actual content, defines lurking in plain sight.
Iron Man: Superlurkmeister.
JordanA24: Z'OMGzzzzz... another Champion of Lurkerdom.
killa seven: Mega-lurking, including his meta.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:26 am

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Haschel Cedricson wrote: Iron Man has done nothing of note in this game to be memorable; in fact, I almost forgot he was playing until I read Crazy's posts.
So had I. Iron Man, how’s school? Do you think BM is town? Do you think Twomz is scummy? Explain your answers.
Haschel Cedricson wrote: JordanA24 has not posted anything useful since the game started.
Even though this is true, and quite frustrating, it makes you look a little hypocritical to say this right after going for Crazy because he voted Iron Man for a similar reason.
Haschel Cedricson wrote:Describing it as a "load of nothing" is inaccurate and I would like to hear M4yhem explain WHY it is a "load of nothing".
Sure thing. It’s a load of nothing because he doesn’t really advance any arguments or do any in-depth analysis- he just quotes her posts and then adds a little comment, often summarizing what her post contains. He didn’t say anything new or really give her any points to answer. So, load of nothing.
armlx wrote: m4yh3m, Twomz's meta is actually true though.


Perhaps. That doesn’t mean he should be allowed to lurk. We won’t get a read on him if he keeps this up.
the silent speaker wrote:
vote:battousai, Coron, and 1/2 vote each on forbiddanlight and Max
Reasons, please.
Coron wrote:If I had to pick a person I thought was scum, I'd pick Max.
This looks like an explanation but it actually isn’t one.

Max- You didn’t answer my questions, please do so.

I liked Battousai’s last post, it seemed fair and sensible. I’m reversing my opinion on her and saying she’s town.

Liked Haschel Cedricson’s last too but he needs more content before I feel I can judge him accurately.

Jordan, Jex- Would like to know your opinions on the game.
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:29 am

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EBWOP, I forgot TSS!
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Will not blow up today:

TDC: Good clever content, has earned the right to live.
Battousai: He's contributing enough actual content that if he's scum, he's 100% going to get caught and leave traces. Besides I don't see a case against him.
DragonsofSummer: He's making sense, he's logical, he's good.
forbiddanlight: I just re-read. Nah. Not scum.
Haschel: Little content, but so far, so good. He also noticed Crazy vs. Iron Man weirdness.
Jex: Makes sense so far.
M4yhem: As townie as they get.

My scumdar rattles:

alvinz95: Little content, seems to play innocent at every corner.
Crazy: Attention to Iron Man pretty odd. I don't get it. Makes stronger case against forbiddanlight.
Max: Definitely some weirdness detected. Under observation.

My scumdar shoots sparks:

Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
BM: I just learned that BM is not a girl! I so know that he gave me the bomb.
Coron: Can't help but think BM and Coron are buddies. Look, Coron confessed! He keeps confessing scum.
Tarhalindur: Aye, he's under fire, now he's doing the disappearing act...
TSS: Not one townie post yet.

Potentially explodalicious surprises:

Jex: Almost no actual content, defines lurking in plain sight.
Iron Man: Superlurkmeister.
JordanA24: Z'OMGzzzzz... another Champion of Lurkerdom.
killa seven: Mega-lurking, including his meta.
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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:36 am

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M4hem wrote:Do you know why you think this? And what do you think of my defense of lurker lynching? I wrote that just for you.
I just don't see him being scum, he has not been scum in any games with me (I don't think) although he usually spends most time attacking me, he isn't in which is rather odd, he just isn't playing unusual for him.

I think your defence of lynching a lurker is not the best I've seen, surely the primary defence of lynching lurkers is to keep potentially helpful townies alive, and get rid of unhelpful people when you are uncertain of scum
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:40 am

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Max: Definitely some weirdness detected. Under observation.
DGB what do you mean by some wierdness?
My scumdar shoots sparks:
Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
BM: I just learned that BM is not a girl! I so know that he gave me the bomb.
Coron: Can't help but think BM and Coron are buddies. Look, Coron confessed! He keeps confessing scum.
Tarhalindur: Aye, he's under fire, now he's doing the disappearing act...
TSS: Not one townie post yet.
The one for BM needs explaining is that a joke to get at BM or a serious reason?
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 4:07 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Will not blow up today:

TDC: Good clever content, has earned the right to live.
Battousai: He's contributing enough actual content that if he's scum, he's 100% going to get caught and leave traces. Besides I don't see a case against him.
DragonsofSummer: He's making sense, he's logical, he's good.
forbiddanlight: I just re-read. Nah. Not scum.
Haschel: Little content, but so far, so good. He also noticed Crazy vs. Iron Man weirdness.
Jex: Makes sense so far.
M4yhem: As townie as they get.
I find nothing to disagree with here.
DrippingGoofball wrote:
My scumdar rattles:

alvinz95: Little content, seems to play innocent at every corner.
Crazy: Attention to Iron Man pretty odd. I don't get it. Makes stronger case against forbiddanlight.
Max: Definitely some weirdness detected. Under observation.
Agree again, but I'd probably put alvinz and crazy a little lower down the list.
DrippingGoofball wrote:
My scumdar shoots sparks:

Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
BM: I just learned that BM is not a girl! I so know that he gave me the bomb.
Coron: Can't help but think BM and Coron are buddies. Look, Coron confessed! He keeps confessing scum.
Tarhalindur: Aye, he's under fire, now he's doing the disappearing act...
TSS: Not one townie post yet.
I must admit I'm surprised at seeing TSS here. I think he's playing as he did in hot potato, and is probably town. I'm not 100% sure but I wouldn't want him blown up.
Same goes for Coron and BM. I think they're worth keeping an eye on but not our best choice for death.
Quite happy to see the end of Twomz but I'm not sure what you mean when you say he's plotting endgame.

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Potentially explodalicious surprises:

Jex: Almost no actual content, defines lurking in plain sight.
Iron Man: Superlurkmeister.
JordanA24: Z'OMGzzzzz... another Champion of Lurkerdom.
killa seven: Mega-lurking, including his meta.
Lol at Jex being both town and explodable at the same time. I think she makes sense when she does talk so probably not your first choice for killing.
I would support the death of any of the other three. I mean, c'mon, Killer seven is playing? So many lurkers, not enough ammo. :roll:

Max- No, I think the fact that lurkers are more likely to be scum is the best reason to kill them; the rest is a useful bonus.

How old are you, btw?
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:14 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Will not blow up today:

TDC: Good clever content, has earned the right to live.
Battousai: He's contributing enough actual content that if he's scum, he's 100% going to get caught and leave traces. Besides I don't see a case against him.
DragonsofSummer: He's making sense, he's logical, he's good.
forbiddanlight: I just re-read. Nah. Not scum.
Haschel: Little content, but so far, so good. He also noticed Crazy vs. Iron Man weirdness.
Jex: Makes sense so far.
M4yhem: As townie as they get.

My scumdar rattles:

alvinz95: Little content, seems to play innocent at every corner.
Crazy: Attention to Iron Man pretty odd. I don't get it. Makes stronger case against forbiddanlight.
Max: Definitely some weirdness detected. Under observation.

My scumdar shoots sparks:

Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
BM: I just learned that BM is not a girl! I so know that he gave me the bomb.
Coron: Can't help but think BM and Coron are buddies. Look, Coron confessed! He keeps confessing scum.
Tarhalindur: Aye, he's under fire, now he's doing the disappearing act...

Potentially explodalicious surprises:

Jex: Almost no actual content, defines lurking in plain sight.
Iron Man: Superlurkmeister.
JordanA24: Z'OMGzzzzz... another Champion of Lurkerdom.
killa seven: Mega-lurking, including his meta.
TDC: eh, not sure he's definately town, I probably wouldn't blow up today either.
Battousai: you make a good point that we can wait until later when we have a better case for his scumminess or innocence, but I personally get some serious scum alarms from some of his posts.
DragonsofSummer: I got nothing here.
forbiddanlight: Yeah, I can agree with you.
Haschel: I've got nothing here.
Jex: again I have nothing.
M4yhem: I agree.
alvinz95: I got nothing to say here
Crazy: Yeah, I agree that Crazy has been a bit off.
Max: I obviously agree here.
Twomz: Yar. I could support this.
BM: Uh, your reasoning isn't good, and I assume it's a joke, plus I'm not really seeing BM scum at this point.
Coron: Yes, because the only use of buddy is in the contexts of "scum buddy" :roll: :roll: :roll:
Tarhalindur: I could buy this.
TSS: I agree, completely, I forgot about him when I placed my vote for some reason.

unvote Vote: TSS


These are just rough quick estimates, I haven't done any rereading yet, so all of this is very far up in the air.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:16 am

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Oh, and I have nothing to say about any in that last category, I forgot about them when I was doing this, but really, nothing worth noting.
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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:56 am

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I have no idea what Coron means by:
Coron: Yes, because the only use of buddy is in the contexts of "scum buddy" :roll:
I like post 479 by Max.

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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:59 am

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Coron wrote:
TDC wrote:I do not remember you ever saying that you guarantee you'll bomb the majority vote.
Will you?
Footnote: DGB gets as many votes as she wants.
one of which is now on you. Congratulations. lol

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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:05 am

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Unvote, Vote: Alvinz

Something i just spotted that really stinks.

Vote Count

Max 3 (Battousai, Alvinz, DGB)
Forbiddanlight 3 (Jordan, Tarhalindur, Crazy)
TSS 3 (Iron Man, DGB, Coron)
Alvinz95 2 (Max, BM)
Twomz 2 (M4yhem, DoS)
Battousai 2 (Armlx, TSS)
Battle Mage 1 (Twomz)
Haschel Cedricson 1 (Jex)
Crazy 1 (Haschel Cedricson)
Tarhalindur 1 (Forbiddanlight)
Coron 1 (DGB)

Not Voting: TDC, Killa 7

Also, K7 should be the top priority lurker kill.

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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:14 am

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DGB wrote: Twomz: Already plotting endgame OMG that's so scummy, bad attittude, not really involved or playing. But plotting endgame. Nice.
Eh? I can understand the attitude and not being as involved as I normally am, but when did I plot endgame? I think you have me confused with someone else.

About the only thing I have to say at this point is for DGB to watch out, because the scum aren't very likely to be the ones who are pushing your buttons (barring WIFOM of course). If you see players "playing it safe" you might want to weight that heavier than you normally would.
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:26 am

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Twomz wrote:Random? Thought out to get rid of a player (DGB) or thought out because they doubt the player will hit one of them?

I doubt it's completely random, although, that's how I would do it to make all the finger pointing and WIFOMing just townie paranoia.

MOD:
There are no lynches, so the mafia has to exceed the number of townies to win? Because if they equal the number of townies a perfect endgame still allows for a draw, or do they just default at that point?
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:26 am

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^^^

And that was your FIRST post of the game.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:12 am

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M4yhem wrote:
Sure thing. It’s a load of nothing because he doesn’t really advance any arguments or do any in-depth analysis- he just quotes her posts and then adds a little comment, often summarizing what her post contains. He didn’t say anything new or really give her any points to answer. So, load of nothing.
I figured that the last part of Tar's case, the part that reads
Tar wrote:Does anyone else see what's missing from forbiddanlight's posts? Oh right, scumhunting.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is why I'm calling IIoA on forbiddanlight.
advances an argument, particularly when Tar is on record as treating IIoA as a major tell.
M4yhem wrote:Even though this is true, and quite frustrating, it makes you look a little hypocritical to say this right after going for Crazy because he voted Iron Man for a similar reason.
I don't see it as hypocritical, because Crazy did NOT vote Iron Man for a similar reason. Crazy voted Iron Man based on a single post where IM asked about lynches.

I'm aware I haven't posted a TON of useful information, which I suppose is a little hypocritical (for a different reason than you mentioned), I was in or en route to Seattle for much of the game so far. I'm back now, and I intend to post more.
BM wrote:Unvote, Vote: Alvinz
Something i just spotted that really stinks.
I don't necessarily see what you do, but I WOULD like to hear Alvinz comment on somebody other than Max.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:19 am

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Equal is win

Liking the activity. Just let me know if you want someone prodded.

I won't do votecounts, but I won't withold you from doing it.

Carry on
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:25 am

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So we have 9 "lynches." We gotta get scum 3 of those times. Not too bad.

Uhh, I thought my case on forbiddan sucked. If anything, I thought people would vote me for that.

Iron Man was in my first newbie game. That's probably why I noticed him.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:35 am

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Crazy wrote:Iron Man was in my first newbie game. That's probably why I noticed him.
I'll accept that.
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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:22 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Unvote, Vote: Alvinz

Something i just spotted that really stinks.
Would you bother to tell me what really stinks?
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 9:38 am

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alvinz95 wrote:Would you bother to tell me what really stinks?
Please post your list of suspects and why you suspect them, OR DIE. Don't let your buddies down.
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:13 am

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Uhh, I thought my case on forbiddan sucked. If anything, I thought people would vote me for that.
So, may I ask why you are still voting me if your case sucked?
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:00 am

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Kscope wrote:Equal is win
I consider that important information.

But... I actually forgot about it until you brought it up (mainly because it was never answered). I just like knowing if the mafia has to meet or exceed the number of townies, I check in every game I play >.> what's wrong with that?
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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:02 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:

Uhh, I thought my case on forbiddan sucked. If anything, I thought people would vote me for that.
So, may I ask why you are still voting me if your case sucked?
Unvote, Vote Iron Man
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 12:05 pm

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Ack, have my scumlist in the works but have to go play tennis. post coming soon
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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:15 pm

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@ Crazy: Are you trying to stay under the radar?

@ DGB: Here's my suspicions.

1. Max
-Starts off the game posting an odd post which sayed he was sad that DGB got the bomb that seemed as though he was laughing at DGB that she got the bomb, which to me felt like he was possibly distancing from the nightkill.
-Posts more obscure posts.
-Says that everyone should suck up to DGB, as she has the power to bomb anyone. I disagree because, the real scumhunter and townie would be avidly scumhunting and pressing questions to the person with the bomb. Sucking up to the bomb is like staying under the radar.
-Puts an OMGUS upon me, misquoting me saying that I only voted him for bandwagoning purpose, which makes no sense because I am the SECOND person to put a vote on which is by no means joining a "bandwagon"

2. Battle Mage (not super scummy, but the next)
-Seems to be just laid back and watching the game, laughing at whats going on.
-Argument with Coron. I found the argument pretty pointless and seemed like random bickering. He made the assumption that Coron "claimed scum" when Coron just stated a hypothetical situation.

3. Others deemed worthy for some actions:
Forbiddenlight - I didn't like the way you OMGUSed ?Twomz?
M4yhem - I didn't like you lingering on lynching lurkers, but I can understand your point of view.
Twomz - Your, uh, voting of 3 people like you didn't care about this game
killa seve - serious lurking. you post some fillers then leave.
Is back.

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