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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:07 am

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Wall-E wrote:Can you point out what the "idiocy" is?
basically, the post by malthusis could be applied to anything...
for example,
Sally wrote:hmm...bob made a good case on john, and he seems pro-town to me
unvote
Nancy wrote:OMG YOU ARE UNVOTING HIM BECAUSE HE'S YOUR SCUMBUDDY
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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:08 am

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@Wall-E: No one has anything on me except the fact that I chose not to post DGB's sentence without a reason to do so. That is IDIOCY at its finest.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:13 am

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dahill1 wrote:Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.
Can you quantify this a little for me?
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:16 am

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@DoS The point we're trying to make is that there was no reason why you couldn't of. Why didn't you just post the sentence when you were asked? (Forgot to unvote with my last vote
Unvote Vote DoS
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Can you point out what the "idiocy" is?

basically, the post by malthusis could be applied to anything...
for example,
Sally wrote:
hmm...bob made a good case on john, and he seems pro-town to me
unvote


Nancy wrote:
OMG YOU ARE UNVOTING HIM BECAUSE HE'S YOUR SCUMBUDDY
Don't go take my words out of context.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:17 am

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I have given a completely plausible reason I didn't multiple times. You are still harping on it. I call that idiocy.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:20 am

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dahill1 wrote:sorry for not posting..
first of all, i would like to say that this wagon on DoS is crap, and DGB is being ridiculous. to be honest, when DGB first told us to post the sentence, i was in no way thinking about a lie detector either. i just figured she was being DGB so i decided to go along with it. i can 100% understand DoS not wanting to go along with it, and when DGB claimed he posted the sentence right afterwards. in summary, there is basically no case. also, the fact that Jebus, malthusis, Wall-E, and DGB are on his wagon helps the case against him being scum, because IMO they are probably some of the scummiest so far.

also, for origin claim i'm from Alice in Wonderland
Sums up my thoughts better than I could ever say.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:23 am

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Wall-E wrote:
dahill1 wrote:Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.
Can you quantify this a little for me?
basically, your incessant following of DGB in practically every post
there are probably some other points but im about to shower so im lazy atm
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:33 am

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dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:
dahill1 wrote:Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.
Can you quantify this a little for me?
basically, your incessant following of DGB in practically every post
there are probably some other points but im about to shower so im lazy atm
Why is that so scummy?
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:35 am

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Battousai wrote:DGB: Your last point is what makes me question you. You've played long enough also, to know not to out your power so easily. Hell, you may not even get to use your ability due to roleblock/nk. But you are right about DoS, he should have known what you were, I know I did when you posted it (I was recently in a game with a lie detector). My only guess was that he didn't want to be seen as easily manipulated if he's town.
I outed my power because I thought I could catch players that would refuse to post the sentence.

You know it has nothing to do with being easily manipulated or not, but that's what he'd like you to think.
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:37 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:
dahill1 wrote:Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.
Can you quantify this a little for me?
basically, your incessant following of DGB in practically every post
there are probably some other points but im about to shower so im lazy atm
Why is that so scummy?
can you not see how this is scummy?
DrippingGoofball wrote:DoS is still alive????
Wall-E 1 POST LATER wrote:Good enough for me.
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:40 am

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DGB I respect you as a player, but you are being completely irrational, and your irrationality has gotten every last idiot in this game (the number seems to be fairly high) up in arms and it is very frustrating to me.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:43 am

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@Wall-E's request, I'm from
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:44 am

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I think the best reason not to do something someone asks you to do in mafia is precisely because someone's asking you to do it.

That having been said, I saw (and still see) absolutely no harm in posting a sentance. But that's me. I tend to jump into things head-first.

DoS is clearly a more suspicious person (in this game, anyway) or perhaps just more careful. I think it's good to have a mix of personalities in a mafia game.

I, too, will
unvote
because DoS' defense satisfied me, and for reasons listed below.

So now it's back to Jebus I turn, with a half-eyeball on dahill1 for his assertion that I'm scummy.
DragonsofSummer wrote:@Wall-E: No one has anything on me except the fact that I chose not to post DGB's sentence without a reason to do so. That is IDIOCY at its finest.
Ok. I was trying to unbalance Jebus' wagon. I request that people post more thoughts on who's evil.

Here's my CURRENT list, which changes almost everytime someone posts, so it's mostly fluffy:

dahill1: He pops in after lurking for a while and accuses four people with no backup points. He also opportunistically took advantage of Jebus' bad plan to lynch DGB and added momentum to the bandwagon against him.

Battousai: I think she's town. She made a point that I was being opportunistic with my denouncement of the hammer, but in fairness I didn't know it was a (supposed) hammer. I was typing on a Wii and couldn't read any numbers on the tiny tv screen, so I saw five names and thought "Oh, L-1 and I can't even barely play right now." I decided to try to stop further such shenanighans with my post. Battousai's post was a protown sentiment.

Jebus: He seems like he's enthusiastic and a bit quick on the trigger, but overall seems town with the exception of the post where he claimed to know someone's flavor with no claim as to why.

Cyberbob: Been a little quiet. Otherwise has good logic. Leaning town.

DragonsofSummer: Despite feelings of OMGUS I agree there's nothing really to pin on DoS aside from being a stubborn player, which is sometimes a very good thing. Leaning more town, for reasons stated above and here.

DGB: Has claimed, clearly banking on us having a doctor. Why does he think there's a doctor? If he is a lie-detector I think he made a bad decision to roleveal. I'll follow DGB's lead until she proves herself a liar. Recommending the Doctor (if we have one) protects DGB for the rest of the game.

And the rest are scummish for not posting often enough for me to form an opinion.
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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:45 am

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dahill1 wrote:
MafiaSSK wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:
dahill1 wrote:Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.
Can you quantify this a little for me?
basically, your incessant following of DGB in practically every post
there are probably some other points but im about to shower so im lazy atm
Why is that so scummy?
can you not see how this is scummy?
DrippingGoofball wrote:DoS is still alive????
Wall-E 1 POST LATER wrote:Good enough for me.
Vote: DragonsofSummer
You just went up a click on my scumometer.

Why would you disbelieve a roleclaim automatically on day 1? Go along with the claim until DGB paints herself into a corner. This is, and always has been, my policy on a town power-role claim this early in the game.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:46 am

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MafiaSSK wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:
dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E [is one of the] scummiest so far.


Can you quantify this a little for me?

basically, your incessant following of DGB in practically every post
there are probably some other points but im about to shower so im lazy atm

Why is that so scummy?

can you not see how this is scummy?

DrippingGoofball wrote:
DoS is still alive????

Wall-E 1 POST LATER wrote:
Good enough for me. Vote: DragonsofSummer

Wow, you aren't paying attention are you? He said he'd unvote until DGB answered his question. How is that scummy?
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:01 pm

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UnFoS, Unvote.
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:07 pm

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Wall-E wrote:dahill1: He pops in after lurking for a while and accuses four people with no backup points. He also opportunistically took advantage of Jebus' bad plan to lynch DGB and added momentum to the bandwagon against him.
ok i admit i had been lurking, but mainly due to RL stuff. also, the people i had been accusing are the ones i've been accusing the whole game (with the exception of maybe DGB). what do you mean by took advantage of Jebus' bad plan? of course i attacked Jebus because it was incredibly scummy. just because i attack someone who is repeatedly scummy doesn't mean i'm taking advantage of them. and yes, i do want Jebus lynched because i believe him to be scum
Wall-E wrote:You just went up a click on my scumometer.

Why would you disbelieve a roleclaim automatically on day 1? Go along with the claim until DGB paints herself into a corner. This is, and always has been, my policy on a town power-role claim this early in the game.
i never said i disbelieved her roleclaim. but even if DGB is telling the truth, how could she 100% know who scum is without even receiving her result yet?? say a cop claims on Day 1, and he thinks so-and-so is scum. that doesn't mean that the person is automatically scum.
Wall-E wrote:with a half-eyeball on dahill1 for his assertion that I'm scummy.
im p sure this is the definition of OMGUS
Wall-E wrote:Ok. I was trying to unbalance Jebus' wagon.
why?
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:19 pm

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Wall-E wrote:And the rest are scummish for not posting often enough for me to form an opinion.
I find this hard to believe.

Oh,
FoS: Wall-E
. Your last few posts have slowly increased my perception that you are scum.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:19 pm

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I don't have much time so I'll just origin claim

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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:33 pm

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dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:dahill1: He pops in after lurking for a while and accuses four people with no backup points. He also opportunistically took advantage of Jebus' bad plan to lynch DGB and added momentum to the bandwagon against him.
ok i admit i had been lurking, but mainly due to RL stuff. also, the people i had been accusing are the ones i've been accusing the whole game (with the exception of maybe DGB).
what do you mean by took advantage of Jebus' bad plan
? of course i attacked Jebus because it was incredibly scummy. just because i attack someone who is repeatedly scummy doesn't mean i'm taking advantage of them. and yes, i do want Jebus lynched because i believe him to be scum
Wall-E wrote:You just went up a click on my scumometer.

Why would you disbelieve a roleclaim automatically on day 1? Go along with the claim until DGB paints herself into a corner. This is, and always has been, my policy on a town power-role claim this early in the game.
To answer the bolded question: I mean that Jebus, at the time, claims to have made the assumption that DGB had already tested all the sentences and knew exactly who the scum were. Jebus was proposing that we then lynch DGB after he posted said information to prove DGB's information true. It was a silly plan, but equally silly a thing for scum to suggest, so your vote was opportunistic.
dahill1 wrote:i never said i disbelieved her roleclaim. but even if DGB is telling the truth, how could she 100% know who scum is without even receiving her result yet?? say a cop claims on Day 1, and he thinks so-and-so is scum. that doesn't mean that the person is automatically scum.
Wall-E wrote:DragonsofSummer: Despite feelings of OMGUS I agree there's nothing really to pin on DoS aside from being a stubborn player, which is sometimes a very good thing. Leaning more town, for reasons stated above and here.
While I agree with you, I was still under the assumption (thanks to DGB) that DoS was a good target for today's lynch.
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Wall-E wrote:with a half-eyeball on dahill1 for his assertion that I'm scummy.
im p sure this is the definition of OMGUS
Indeed.
dahill1 wrote:
Wall-E wrote:Ok. I was trying to unbalance Jebus' wagon.
why?
Wall-E wrote:Jebus: He seems like he's enthusiastic and a bit quick on the trigger, but overall seems town with the exception of the post where he claimed to know someone's flavor with no claim as to why.
Being unable to force anyone else to unvote, I decided to offer up an alternative in the form of someone demonstrably more scummy than DoS.

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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:34 pm

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Natirasha wrote:
Wall-E wrote:And the rest are scummish for not posting often enough for me to form an opinion.
I find this hard to believe.

Oh,
FoS: Wall-E
. Your last few posts have slowly increased my perception that you are scum.
What do you find hard to believe?
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:35 pm

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Wall-E wrote:
Natirasha wrote:
Wall-E wrote:And the rest are scummish for not posting often enough for me to form an opinion.
I find this hard to believe.

Oh,
FoS: Wall-E
. Your last few posts have slowly increased my perception that you are scum.
What do you find hard to believe?
Am I a lurker?
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:37 pm

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Wall-E wrote:Being unable to force anyone else to unvote, I decided to offer up an alternative in the form of someone demonstrably more scummy than Jebus.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:39 pm

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Natirasha wrote:
Wall-E wrote:
Natirasha wrote:
Wall-E wrote:And the rest are scummish for not posting often enough for me to form an opinion.
I find this hard to believe.

Oh,
FoS: Wall-E
. Your last few posts have slowly increased my perception that you are scum.
What do you find hard to believe?
Am I a lurker?
You are a person on whom I lack an opinion at this time. I guess I should have said that, but when I draw a blank on someone I sometimes think "Trying to stay under the radar, hey scumlord?" I conceed that it might just be because you've done nothing that particularly stands out, though now that you've said this I will be reading all your posts right now.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:18 pm

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Wall-E wrote:I think the best reason not to do something someone asks you to do in mafia is precisely because someone's asking you to do it.

That having been said, I saw (and still see) absolutely no harm in posting a sentance. But that's me. I tend to jump into things head-first.

DoS is clearly a more suspicious person (in this game, anyway) or perhaps just more careful. I think it's good to have a mix of personalities in a mafia game.

I, too, will
unvote
because DoS' defense satisfied me, and for reasons listed below.
No way... it has nothing to do with being careful, but everything to so with being well aware of the mechanism of a Lie Detector.
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