nureins wrote:sirdanilot wrote:
Jahudo somehow gives me a scum vibe, but I know that if I'd make a case against him it would turn out into nothing. He just gives me a vibe, that's all.
As Im waiting for more people to give opinions and conform a view of who to lynch, Ill not be too much aggressive. How is possible you want to lynch someone, you find him scum but you believe your case would turn out into nothing? please explain me that...
I mentioned my gut feeling. My gut says Jahudo may be scum. I have little clarification for this (so far only his lack of voting/suspecting people) and there are bigger suspects than him (Ythill, Simenon to some extent). I mentioned this gut feeling because, well, I think it's something for the town to consider, however small. I am not going to advocate a Jahudo lynch, since Ythill is way more likely to be scum. That doesn't take away that if it somehow would come to a Jahudo L-1, I'd hardly hesitate to hammer since there wouldn't be that little voice in my head that says 'don't lynch him'. Hence, I felt I should mention it and I did.
On to Ythill. Somehow, it didn't occur to me that a Ythill meta would be very helpful to determine if he uses this play style more often. So, let's investigate this. I did not read every single post of his in every single game, obviously. I glanced over Ythill's posts in these games and I checked if I saw interesting things, like the badgering he is doing to me. If I happen to miss some badgering and someone else (like Ythill himself) knows that he did badger in that game, be my guest to inform me. Just don't go and accuse me of shit like 'you purposefully ignored that post I badgered there too and I was town sirdan-scum olol'.
Now, is a meta definitive evidence? Most certainly not. I do however feel that a meta may add something about Ythill.
Newbie 493 (Vanilla): He didn't seem to be very aggressive in that game. The most notable, however, is that he at some point replaced out because another player kept offending people. Now, I didn't read into that other player that much so I'm not sure if he really offended him, but this does remind me of something with pot, kettle, black...
Mini 508 (Vanilla): Not that aggressive in this game imo. He replaced in at the end.
Mini 539 (Vig): He refused to random vote in this game too. Anyway, every single post of his is absolutely humongous (as in, really really big) so I'm not too sure what to think of that. His posts here aren't that big (although they're not exactly small). I agree that post length doesn't say all that much, so on to the content. He isn't that agressive for the biggest part of this game, but at some point he resorts into questioning the intelligence of a certain player. Nowhere, however, do I see stuff like 'hahaha you're scum' 'scum
' '(playername)-scum lol'.
Mini 542 (Vanilla): No random vote again. Not very aggressive imo.
Mini 565 (Mafia Godfather): Wow, finally a game where Ythill's scum ( he seems to have pretty bad luck when it comes to getting fun roles!). Anyway, no random vote again. The phrase 'to my detractors' happened to catch my eye. He is slightly more aggressive in this game than in others, or at least it gives me that feeling.
Mini 591: No random vote. He utilizes HoS, FoS and whatnot in this game (and he claimed not to do that here in 645!). I don't see any obvious badgering here.
General habits: Not really that aggressive as scum nor as town. At the beginning of every game, he explains his play style ('sometimes I keep things secret and you may not perceive that as a scumtell') at the beginning of every game and he does not random vote. Some of his posts are humongous and include tables and analysis of every player from different viewing angles. These are mostly when he is playing town-aligned.
So, conclusion:
1. No badgering in the games he has finished (and that I checked). As far as I know, this is the first time he is badgering like this.
2. He never random votes.
3. He utilized FoSes in other games, and he claimed not to. Most suspicious thing so far IMO.
This meta didn't make me any less suspicious of Ythill. I learned a lot about Ythill's habits and play style so I do not think it was useless at all. It took me a very long time to make this, but I think it was worth it.
