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Post Post #2475 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:24 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:hey, I'm fine with a skitzer flowering. I'm debating on the Ala thing...but in the end I think a lynch is fine too.
We can test Ala. He was fighting quite hard if you ask me.

So Id like to do a list of "to do".
-Ting should vote No lynch.
-Mnowax should explain why is he a Toad with a poisonous mushroom.
-Find a target to be fireflowered by a confirmed Toad and to be protected by Alabaska.
-Lynch skitzer.
Mod: prod her.

-Decide if we fireflower non confirmed like hell.
There's an easier way to test his claim if you must, and not give scum another day to live. Lynch skitzer, star Alabaska if you must, but there's no point in testing his claim when we can test/kill in one swift move.
Or we could test his claim today and I star other suspected guy tonight. This is simple.
1. Cream buys a fireflower tonight targeting Natirasha.
2. Alabaska makes a pill tonight and protects Natirasha.
3. a) If Nat is killed tomorrow then Ala is lying. He's scum.
3. b) If Nat isnt killed tomorrow then Ala is the doctor. We have another confirmed townie and we can catch many scum in his wagon.
4. Tajo stars Surye.
5. Proft.


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Visible Votecount:
Alabaska J (6): farside22, Lord Gurgi, Natirasha, DarlaBlueEyes, Surye, mnowax
Natirasha (2): ting =), Alabaska J
ting =) (1): Riceballtail
mnowax (1): populartajo
skitzer (1): Cream147

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Post Post #2476 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:27 am

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Post Post #2477 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:33 am

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populartajo wrote:
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populartajo wrote:
forbiddanlight wrote:hey, I'm fine with a skitzer flowering. I'm debating on the Ala thing...but in the end I think a lynch is fine too.
We can test Ala. He was fighting quite hard if you ask me.

So Id like to do a list of "to do".
-Ting should vote No lynch.
-Mnowax should explain why is he a Toad with a poisonous mushroom.
-Find a target to be fireflowered by a confirmed Toad and to be protected by Alabaska.
-Lynch skitzer.
Mod: prod her.

-Decide if we fireflower non confirmed like hell.
There's an easier way to test his claim if you must, and not give scum another day to live. Lynch skitzer, star Alabaska if you must, but there's no point in testing his claim when we can test/kill in one swift move.
Or we could test his claim today and I star other suspected guy tonight. This is simple.
1. Cream buys a fireflower tonight targeting Natirasha.
2. Alabaska makes a pill tonight and protects Natirasha.
3. a) If Nat is killed tomorrow then Ala is lying. He's scum.
3. b) If Nat isnt killed tomorrow then Ala is the doctor. We have another confirmed townie and we can catch many scum in his wagon.
4. Tajo stars Surye.
5. Proft.
This plan has a huge flaw. What if Nat is town? Then the star will not kill him, and Alabaska would be false-confirmed. This plan does not work.
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Post Post #2478 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:33 am

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Nat is a bad choice because of the fact he might be Peach. I'd say pick someone else, like Surye maybe?
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Post Post #2479 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:34 am

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1. Cream buys a
fireflower[
/size] tonight targeting Natirasha.
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Post Post #2480 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:34 am

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Curse my tags!
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Post Post #2481 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:37 am

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Post Post #2482 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:37 am

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Yeah prob Surye instead of Nat.
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Post Post #2483 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:47 am

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forbiddanlight wrote:
1. Cream buys a
fireflower
tonight targeting Natirasha.
Yea, I miss read that, sorry.
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Post Post #2484 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:48 am

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populartajo wrote:Yeah prob Surye instead of Nat.
I disagree with this plan, as I do not believe Ala's claim for one minute, and so I consider this a death sentence for no good reason.
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Post Post #2485 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:55 am

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I disagree with this plan, as I do not believe Ala's claim for one minute, and so I consider this a death sentence for no good reason.
Yours was the first name I thought of to be honest. Really, I'm for anyone that's not Nat and doesn't seem like Peach
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Post Post #2486 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:59 am

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To elaborate so you understand I am not just pining for my own survival. What you are doing is betting my life on his innocence, regardless of my own innocence. Now, if you all want to suspect me, that is fine, but we should deal with Ala independent of that, and give me a due process before putting my life on the line.

I stand by my plan to star Ala, and lynch Skitzer. It will give skitzer the benefit of a full, real lynch, and puts town-Ala in no danger, and will kill scum-Ala. No need to risk another head to confirm his.

Unvote, Vote: Skitzer
(I will go on record that an Ala lynch is still the right move, but if I cannot get the town on board, a star will accomplish the same).
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Post Post #2487 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:00 am

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I don't want to fireflower Surye. Can I kill poison mushroom guy?
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Post Post #2488 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:18 am

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Cream147 wrote:I don't want to fireflower Surye. Can I kill poison mushroom guy?
Sure.

@Surye the problem with the star strategy is that it costs us 8 coins and it prevent us from clearing/killing another player when it would only cost us 3 to test his claim. Okay okay, we wont try his innocence with you, maybe other player.

@Ala do you have a mushroom? Please give me all your coins and keep the ones you need for a mushroom, in case you dont have one.

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Post Post #2489 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:22 am

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populartajo wrote:@Ala do you have a mushroom? Please give me all your coins and keep the ones you need for a mushroom, in case you dont have one.
Meh.

Would it not be more reliable for Alabaska to give you as many coins as he can (and prove he can't give any more) and try to give all the items away, then for you to give him the two coins he needs to buy the Mushroom?
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Post Post #2490 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:25 am

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I guess I'm fireflowering Ala's test subject?
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Post Post #2491 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:27 am

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The problem with not starring Alabaska tonight is that we have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow...I really really really do not think for one second that he's town.
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Post Post #2492 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:28 am

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somestrangeflea wrote:
populartajo wrote:@Ala do you have a mushroom? Please give me all your coins and keep the ones you need for a mushroom, in case you dont have one.
Meh.

Would it not be more reliable for Alabaska to give you as many coins as he can (and prove he can't give any more) and try to give all the items away, then for you to give him the two coins he needs to buy the Mushroom?
Both work. The first situation could catch him lying but I dont think Ala would be dumb enough to do it. So yeah.
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Post Post #2493 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:30 am

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Cream147 wrote:The problem with not starring Alabaska tonight is that we have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow...I really really really do not think for one second that he's town.
Cream do you realize the number of lynches doesnt matter anymore, right? We can vig him tomorrow.
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Post Post #2494 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:32 am

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Both work. The first situation could catch him lying but I dont think Ala would be dumb enough to do it. So yeah.
And yes forbiddan. Or do you have a better target?
Not really. Just trying to figure out who we should test. Also, I'm fine with a
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Post Post #2495 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:37 am

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populartajo wrote:
Cream147 wrote:The problem with not starring Alabaska tonight is that we have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow...I really really really do not think for one second that he's town.
Cream do you realize the number of lynches doesnt matter anymore, right?
The fuck? Have you completely forgotten that the scum have a chance to kidnap Peach every night? The number of lynches most certainly does matter.
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Post Post #2496 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:42 am

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somestrangeflea wrote:
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Cream147 wrote:The problem with not starring Alabaska tonight is that we have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow...I really really really do not think for one second that he's town.
Cream do you realize the number of lynches doesnt matter anymore, right?
The fuck? Have you completely forgotten that the scum have a chance to kidnap Peach every night? The number of lynches most certainly does matter.
It doesnt matter as long as K7 isnt killed. But what I was exactly refering to was to the fact that we arent wasting a lynch tomorrow if Ala flips out scum. We could fireflower him.
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Post Post #2497 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:40 pm

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tajo wrote:And Ting move your vote to No-Lynch please. Also, can you top your suspects?
If you want to confirm me using rbt's ability, I think I need to move it to someone, not a no lynch. If cream doesn't mind,
unvote.vote:cream.
You shouldn't be getting any votes from anyone else, so I'll be the only vote on you.

My suspects are Nat, goborage/mnowax, Ala, in that order. I'm not going to make cases on the other two until Nat is gone. I don't like making cases on multiple people, you can read my newer games if you want.

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tajo wrote:We fireflower non confirmed players, specially suspected ones, aka Mnowax,
Ting
, Ala, Natirasha and lately Surye.
You still haven't given
one
reason AT ALL, why you find me suspicious. It's really bugs me when someone repeats something over and over and just expects it to be true. Tell me why you find me suspicous. Give me a reason, stop evading the question.

Also, pretty funky how you suddenly suspect Nat after calling him
confirmed
town for so long.

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Surye what about if you claim and we stop this argument right now...
Now that I remember I think Ting should also claim.
Thoughts?
No... We're trying to hide peach too, not just catch scum. If they catch peach and we don't get bowser, we still lose. The 'unbreakable' plan you're proposing assumes peach is untouched. There's already enough people who've already shown themselves to be not peach, the range is too narrow already. You're confirmed, but stop saying stuff that jeopardizes the town.

SSF has said as much.
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Or we could test his claim today and I star other suspected guy tonight. This is simple.
1. Cream buys a fireflower tonight targeting Natirasha.
2. Alabaska makes a pill tonight and protects Natirasha.
3. a) If Nat is killed tomorrow then Ala is lying. He's scum.
3. b) If Nat isnt killed tomorrow then Ala is the doctor. We have another confirmed townie and we can catch many scum in his wagon.
Ala could be scum-doc. +other stuff everyone said. This isn't foolproof.

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fl wrote:Nat is a bad choice because of the fact he might be Peach.
Don't wifom yourself. You know you are. You have no reason to think he's peach.
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Post Post #2498 (ISO) » Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:48 pm

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populartajo wrote:
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populartajo wrote:
Cream147 wrote:The problem with not starring Alabaska tonight is that we have to waste a lynch on him tomorrow...I really really really do not think for one second that he's town.
Cream do you realize the number of lynches doesnt matter anymore, right?
The fuck? Have you completely forgotten that the scum have a chance to kidnap Peach every night? The number of lynches most certainly does matter.
It doesnt matter as long as K7 isnt killed. But what I was exactly refering to was to the fact that we arent wasting a lynch tomorrow if Ala flips out scum. We could fireflower him.
Ok, I'll go with you...for now. I still think we are simply allowing scum to live.
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Post Post #2499 (ISO) » Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:33 am

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@ting: Notice that Im not pushing your lynch anymore. Notice that Ive realized that Nat could be a viable lynch since he isnt totally confirmed. Thats what a reread do. Ill do what the majority says. Im just giving ideas and I could be wrong.
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