TENET - Algorithm Assembled

[Menalque]

I wasn’t really going anywhere? It was literally me explaining who was who so you don’t have to qualify everything you say.

Why am I scummy?

Ok lets take a step back

I thought you were posting this whole time, but honestly i dont really care who was posting so long as whoever wrote the post regarding my reads can explain why it's weird and what the significance of the weirdness was

If that wasnt you, that's fine, but i would like to talk to your other head abt that when they're around plz

I very strongly dislike this 'weird that more of my reads are on the other thread' thing. It feels like something you lot threw out there and doesnt feel like a real thought because the followup i'd have expected in a few different places repeatedly isnt happening
A lot of the things you're posting are kinda pinging wrong
I think you may be trying to buddy brian across threads

Are you joking? WE HAVE A THREAD TO FIND SCUM IN - maybe if you cant find reads in our thread then... scumhunt?? You don’t think that you saying finding scum in a thread you’re spectating is easier than one you’re contributing to is an indicator or anything?

I dislike this a lot knowing that skitter is town and I think her naturally having more reads on the other thread to begin with is fine, but the sort of thing that looks optically scummy

[Menalque]

Pooky next time you’re here can you run me through why dandelion is scum again?

[Menalque]

I know, I know, preflip associatives this, fool’s errand that, but I don’t think that superbowl and lld sound very TvS around pg 21-22 in the inverted thread, and given that I think we have to work off the assumption that lld is scum i think that’s probably further evidence for +scum in the case of sb

[Spiffeh]

If it helps your solve you can confidently consider LLD and A50 as flipped scum at this point

[Spiffeh]

Probs Pooky too

[Menalque]

I don’t think pooky is scum really and I’m also pretty unpersuaded on it being A50 so

[Menalque]

Okay so

Lld more or less has to be scum, all the scenarios where she’s not just seem crazy unlikely given the fake guilty/pushes on skitt and peta/claim that her role is the only one with flavour in it while nobody else’s has that

Dunn is likely scum for interactions with skitter as I was reading yesterday before repping in, also skitt was probably in a uniquely good position to know if his reasons were BS or not as he was pushing her

sb +scum for this nonsense around there maybe being an “inverter” that could explain lld

MWB +scum probably for voting with a top SR unless maybe it comes out that he was pushing dandelion even harder than pooky yesterday

Annie +scum for early D7 posts in inverted imo

This is the base of my solve as things stand

(Lld, dunn, mwb, sb, annie) + probably either one of (brian, dandelion) or maybe just you spiffeh

[Spiffeh]

uh I really don't think Dunn and probably not superbowl

Annie I'll probably save for the resurrected townies to figure out but I am not thrilled about them

I am locktown

[Menalque]

But okay gotta try and sleep now, tbc

[Menalque]

You may try to present reasons for the assertions about (dunn, sb, yourself) and I will take them into consideration tomorrow when I come back to this

But like, frankly, everyone here has been doing a terrible job and while it’s very possible I will too i think it’s time to pass the reigns over this game to someone with fresh eyes ie me

[Menalque]

Questions: why was unwnd apparently a big TR in the game? Who was TRing him a lot?

Why did unwnd rep out?

You responding to this while I’m gone would be useful too

[Spiffeh]

ugh that's a lot of work

[superbowl9]

My reasoning for this is the old mastina principle: the person who is explaining something in the more convoluted way is more likely to be scum

In this case, theorising the existence of an “inverter” role rather than just getting to the obvious conclusion that lld is scum who faked a guilty

Yeah go against consensus and kill me then. Once you lose once off this shit maybe you'll learn your lesson

[superbowl9]

If dunn could actually fucking contribute it would make my solve a lot easier

???

You've pretty much done nothing but fuck town this game do you disagree

dont be mean to dunny

This is me being nice

[superbowl9]

I dislike this a lot knowing that skitter is town and I think her naturally having more reads on the other thread to begin with is fine, but the sort of thing that looks optically scummy

Yo what are you actually talking about I have been one of skitter's only supporters this whole damn game I have been consistently on the let's not elim skitter side against the will of literally almost everyone else in this damn game

[superbowl9]

If it helps your solve you can confidently consider LLD and A50 as flipped scum at this point

We literally cannot flip LLD even if she is scum because I'm not on it. If town we lose the game anyways. So this is probly not a good idea.

[superbowl9]

This is the base of my solve as things stand

(Lld, dunn, mwb, sb, annie) + probably either one of (brian, dandelion) or maybe just you spiffeh

#1 you cannot have 5 scum starting from the same thread. So within me, LLD, mwb, annie, dandelion pick 4 at most, probably 3.

[superbowl9]

A50 is consensus scum for a reason Mena. Try to towncase him please. Compare his contributions to anyone in this game (even dunn) and he's been near useless.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm currently at...

A50
MWB
Brian
Spiffeh
1 of Pooky and Dandelion
and someone in forwards that I missed. It's hard to think of 6 names, I can think of 6 I suspect but I don't think Cabd+Pooky is a pairing so =/

[Lady Lambdadelta]

also people are voting really carefree for a day we're in lylo which makes me super suspicious of that.

[Menalque]

I dislike this a lot knowing that skitter is town and I think her naturally having more reads on the other thread to begin with is fine, but the sort of thing that looks optically scummy

Yo what are you actually talking about I have been one of skitter's only supporters this whole damn game I have been consistently on the let's not elim skitter side against the will of literally almost everyone else in this damn game

Not from what I’ve read so far. If that’s how it is later, I’ll think about it

If it helps your solve you can confidently consider LLD and A50 as flipped scum at this point

We literally cannot flip LLD even if she is scum because I'm not on it. If town we lose the game anyways. So this is probly not a good idea.

Well then get your head out of your ass because lld is scum and that’s where we’re going today. The chain of coincidences and just bizzaro things that would need to have happened for her to not be scum is too long

A50 is consensus scum for a reason Mena. Try to towncase him please. Compare his contributions to anyone in this game (even dunn) and he's been near useless.

How about this? Scum have absolutely stomped town this game. A50 is fully capable of playing uselessly as town (not always, sometimes he’s great, but he definitely has games where he does nothing). And if I were scum I can think of nobody I would want to bring to 13p lylo more than a lazy-game A50. So either you’ve brilliantly PoE’d one of the scum masterminds who has been outplaying you extremely hard up to this point at the 11th hour... or you’re walking in perfectly to what scum wanted you to do, just like you have for the *entire game up to this point*

[Gypyx]

Doesn't make sense with watcher, tracker, follower. How would it modify the results?

Yes it does. Scum has a results inverter or whatever and setup info. Town is way too stacked for just a strongman

hard disagree on that one, this setup is already scumsided enough with a strongman, like, if there is our effective power is (assuming ALL claims are town)

-a 2 person tracker
-a 2 person follower
- watcher
-motion detector
-Vcop
- IC
- neighborizer
- neighbors lovers

versus 6 scum and 2 nightkills

you call that townsided?

[Gypyx]

can anyone who tr's bowl tell me why?

[Gypyx]

Questions: why was unwnd apparently a big TR in the game? Who was TRing him a lot?

Why did unwnd rep out?

i wasn't tr'ing his a whole lot but his posting felt good, didn't give it a re-read though

[Gypyx]

i actually dont trust anyone in this thread except LLD.

which is funny cause LLD got me to kill one of my biggest townreads.
i don't even know which of u to trust in other timeline but im guessing dunny because of unwnd.

don't trust annie no more, don't trust mena, etc.

i think i am going to have immense impulse control and not vote someone until i figure out whole team.

my idea right now is LLD/pooky + 4 others

why the flip