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Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:04 pm

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In post 1999, Firebringer wrote:it is very likely that the person who nullified all actions could display a message to town and is using that to frame me. it is also likely that the person is scum given the fact it stops doc actions.

So now that we know both those things. Who would want to frame poor old innocent firebringer? Probably Flea me thinks.
Rein your ego in will ya. I got better things to deal with.
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In post 2006, Firebringer wrote:Your read on Flea is bad and we are laughing at u in the PT.
Why? I just replaced into the game.

You have no reason to even think I won't immediately switch reads, Firebringer. Ruff ruff.
I just don't like people reading Flea as town. Means I got to do more work on my bussing to get the towncred on their flip.
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In post 2015, Finral wrote:Why is your read more accurate than someone town reading them? Why aren't you the one in the position to have the inverse reads?
I think i am more right than others given i think i see their actions better understood for what they are then everyone else.

Everyone townreading Flea hasn't given me good reason to doubt it.
I dont think you've given good reason for people to scum read me either tbh.


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In post 2020, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2015, Finral wrote:Why is your read more accurate than someone town reading them? Why aren't you the one in the position to have the inverse reads?
I think i am more right than others given i think i see their actions better understood for what they are then everyone else.

Everyone townreading Flea hasn't given me good reason to doubt it.
but is that indicative of ScumFlea or scum knowing Flea is town but can't explain why, they're doing it for survival reasons?
The other thing is, I know I'm limbait :cool:

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In post 2042, Finral wrote:I was just spewing, and mentioning what I saw in real time in the hopes people would interact with it.

I don't even agree I was inconsistent, to be fair, my reads just changed within the same post after reading more of the game.
as a brainspewer, yeah I'm good on this.

Kookie is town, I suggest reading their iso.
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Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:06 pm

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@Flea - I'm okay thinking you're town. See my reads aren't lining up with the general consensus which means I feel you guys have been getting taken on a ride somewhere. I'm much more sold on Oil/Guillo rather than you, but you would fit as a 3rd, but I can see you being town here.

I also got a lot more out of scum reading Kookie and seeing how people would respond to it, so I didn't care too much.

I'm kind of tired of people not town casing her, though.
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Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:33 pm

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Told you Gamma was scum.

VOTE: Finral
In post 2025, Battle Mage wrote:I'm also fine with Oil-elim today, as the game just screams Oil-scum here.
I started the Gamma wagon, dude. Wake up.
Fire is bad for business.
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Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:35 pm

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;P gotcha, Oil.

Take me if you need to. I got him.
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Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:47 pm

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@Bell - I need to talk to you.
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Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 2075, Flea The Magician wrote:Rein your ego in will ya. I got better things to deal with.
how is me saying im being framed by u ego?
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:55 pm

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In post 2080, Firebringer wrote:
In post 2075, Flea The Magician wrote:Rein your ego in will ya. I got better things to deal with.
how is me saying im being framed by u ego?
I am more willing to accept Fire town right now, but there's a reason Fire was on my scum list and continues to be in my POE. If you are town, I agree you are being setup somewhere, probably not just by Flea.

I will fade Flea before I fade Firebringer here, though.

My preferred eliminating order is Oil --> Flea --> Guillo.

If Flea is town, Fire after Guillo.
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Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:57 pm

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if there is any options like investigations, I'd say solving within Flea/Fire is probably the right play.
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Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:57 pm

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are*
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Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:58 pm

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flea objectively has the most reason to want me gone than anyone here i think? i mean if we are talking about scum wanting to get rid of people suspecting them. if we talking just framing people to get rid of townies than it could just be anyone.
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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:58 pm

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I will be sad faced if nacho wanted to frame me
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I decided to post "haha just don't post that in the main thread", but to get up to date on the main thread first.

His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 2084, Firebringer wrote:flea objectively has the most reason to want me gone than anyone here i think? i mean if we are talking about scum wanting to get rid of people suspecting them. if we talking just framing people to get rid of townies than it could just be anyone.
I think there is a chance you both are town here after thinking about it, and I think if that is the case, giving it a day is fine.

I think we solve in Oil/Me first. Oil's last post is an obvious "I have to challenge Finral" move.
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Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:59 pm

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In post 2085, Firebringer wrote:I will be sad faced if nacho wanted to frame me
I doubt it was intentional even if Flea is doing it.
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Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:00 pm

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flea probably not even dbz nerdy enough to know mr satan quotes.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:15 pm

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In post 2084, Firebringer wrote:flea objectively has the most reason to want me gone than anyone here i think? i mean if we are talking about scum wanting to get rid of people suspecting them. if we talking just framing people to get rid of townies than it could just be anyone.
seriously... there's better options for me, and bigger threats to my play style than someone I've never met before this game.
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Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:16 pm

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In post 2088, Firebringer wrote:flea probably not even dbz nerdy enough to know mr satan quotes.
I read the manga several times. not the anime which is 99%

HWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
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Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:20 pm

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In post 2071, Finral wrote:
In post 2062, Guillotina wrote:@Finral can you please expand on this?
Guillo vs FB is interesting. I can see it being TvS. This is a note to myself to look deeper into both these slots. I've been indifferent with Guillo thus far.


Parts of me think Kookiemonster/Guillo is fake, but I'll put a tinfoil hat on this one.


If I had to take a shot in the dark guess of where I'm feeling right now, it would be
Oil, Kookiemonster, Firebringer
as the scum team.
Guillo, Bell, and Superbowl are the 3 I want to look into more, and could probably replace into that likely incorrect full solve.
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: Considering you said you want to town read FB and that you are indifferent with me. Who pinged you as scum in that TvS and why?

Green
: What interactions seemed fake to you? I'm aggravated by the thought that someone would consider "fake" my reactions to Noraa's death tunneling, or how she seems to be convinced that I'm scum. I'm not scum, but I believe she is convinced of it and I don't believe those emotions can be faked by someone like Noraa, so, what seemed fake?

Red
: In what world is Kookiemonster scum? She is pretty much consensus town read.
I'll answer this stuff later, but I think I'm sold on Kookiemonster town now.

But this confirms scum is town reading Kookie also, so looking into people actively town reading Kookie.
Kookie is consensus townread because everyone is townreading Kookie.
Therefore scum is townreading Kookie.
I should look into people townreading Kookie, as some will be scum.

^I'm not sure this line of enquiry is going to help much

FWIW, I'm not 100% sold on Kookie-town - I could re-evaluate it later. But the noraa vibe is just town here - that's my own view, and was also the view of 2 dead townies.
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Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:21 pm

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In post 2077, Oil Tycoons wrote:Told you Gamma was scum.

VOTE: Finral
In post 2025, Battle Mage wrote:I'm also fine with Oil-elim today, as the game just screams Oil-scum here.
I started the Gamma wagon, dude. Wake up.
if you are town, you needed to do more than this here.
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Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:25 pm

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In post 2089, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 2084, Firebringer wrote:flea objectively has the most reason to want me gone than anyone here i think? i mean if we are talking about scum wanting to get rid of people suspecting them. if we talking just framing people to get rid of townies than it could just be anyone.
seriously... there's better options for me, and bigger threats to my play style than someone I've never met before this game.
but none of them are pushing. they aren't better targets if they are in ur pocket lol
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:30 pm

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*points at BM*
Biggest threat to my scum game. also scumreading me.

*points at mom*
Second biggest threat to my scum game.

*points at nora*
Trust me if I was scum she'd know.

You're an unknown factor, and I don't consider you as a threat. your case is awful.
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Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:33 pm

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I get the idea these posts are just swipes at me not actually trying to refute my point.
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:50 pm

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In post 1998, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1971, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1967, Sugar Cain wrote:Also, wtf are there specs on whether titus's role is town or scum? Titus is dead.
Titus' role isn't what disabled actions for the night... is it? I don't think she ever claimed it
No i am pretty sure it was someone else.

Btw dunny we need to have a talk on why u townread me
Do we?

I looked over your posts and thought you looked town
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Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 2091, Battle Mage wrote:Kookie is consensus townread because everyone is townreading Kookie.
Therefore scum is townreading Kookie.
I should look into people townreading Kookie, as some will be scum.

^I'm not sure this line of enquiry is going to help much
Does it matter though if I stated I was happy with Kookie town?
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Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:52 pm

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In post 2000, Finral wrote:mastina (5): Bell, Dunnstral, Oil Tycoons, superbowl9, Battle Mage
This was me coming in with 14 hours left or something and placing down a vote, following bell and also mastina looked to be making stuff up on their read on me

I still don't know why the rest followed onto mastina
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Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:53 pm

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In post 1699, Perfect Cell wrote:
with 13 alive it takes 7 to nominate. Nomination Phase 2 ends in (expired on 2021-01-11 22:25:25).


Combatants
Dunnstral (2): Titus, Oil Tycoons
mastina (1): Bell
Battle Mage (1): Flea The Magician
Oil Tycoons (0):
Bell (0):
Superbowl9 (1): mastina
Firebringer (1): Sugar Cain
kookiemonster (0):
Titus (0):
Flea The Magician (0):
Sugar Cain (0):
Guillotina (1): Firebringer


Not Voting (0):


Superbowl is V/LA from January 5th to January 10th.


Spoiler: Nominated
1. Gamma Emerald
Also this was the vote count I saw when I made my vote

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