This.CallMeLiam wrote:Sorry, should have told you personally I'd be v\la.
How do you feel about CML's claim request/hammer threat then?BridgesAndBaloons wrote:I don't feel comfortable with any person's lynch right now.
Why shouldn't I answer this?BaB wrote:I don't feel comfortable with any person's lynch right now. Do you think there is someone that is lynch-worthy? Well, I'm not sure you should answer that.
As someone said (forgot who), metas aren't always a good way to determine scumness or townness. I did not notice any "heat" on me...my only votes (at that time) were BaB (who at the end said his vote was more of pressure, correct me if I'm wrong) and killa seven (who voted me for very weak reasons, in my opinion). And besides, you could be tunneling on me because k7 is your scum partner too.TSPN wrote:I think he's behaving like he always does. Have you read another game he's been in yet? I'm starting to think you're tunneling on k7 because there's heat on you and you think he's an easy lynch.
I suppose the difference is mostly in that I find jon suspicious. Speaking of jon:tdc wrote: I'm aware from our past game that you wouldn't lynch k7 on the basis of non-contribution.
How is jon's k7 vote less opportunistic than k7's jon vote?
jt wrote: As someone said (forgot who), metas aren't always a good way to determine scumness or townness.
Considering k7's meta, (PS: Have you read a game of his yet?) do you or do you not think it is a valid application? If not,why not?
I did not notice any "heat" on me...my only votes (at that time) were BaB (who at the end said his vote was more of pressure, correct me if I'm wrong) and killa seven (who voted me for very weak reasons, in my opinion). And besides, you could be tunneling on me because k7 is your scum partner too.
I'd define being the second largest wagon as heat. And regarding me "tunneling" on you, I'm not sure that word means what you think it means. If anything, I spent most of the day tunneling on bab, only now distracted by you.
I'm most suspicious of TSPN and k7 at that moment, although CML's claim request does raise some suspicion.
Why? Your suspicion of k7 is documented, although your refusal to actually engage his meta is off-putting, but why me? OMGUS, or do you have something better? And considering that asking for claims at L-1 with a willing hammer is more or less par for the course, why is CML's request suspicious?
I want you to contribute. I see that this isn't working all that well, though.killa seven wrote:I need to re read, not sure why tdc is voting me, i think it was before i replaced in.
Uh. Should the continuation of your vote be read as approval of a jon-claim?BridgesAndBaloons wrote:HOS: CML
I was under the impression that your main reason for voting jon was his k7-vote. What else is there? BAB's case?TheSweatpantsNinja wrote:I suppose the difference is mostly in that I find jon suspicious.
You are at L-1, I am considering voting for you. Would you prefer I hammered without getting a claim first?jonathantan86 wrote:I'm most suspicious of TSPN and k7 at that moment, although CML's claim request does raise some suspicion.
I didn't like the way that he keeps saying he thinks powerroles would stay quiet, because its really only in scum's interest to figure out who powerroles are. I didn't necessarily find a pressure vote on k7 bad (although its a waste of time), but at L-1, that's not pressure any more, that's an attempt to lynch, and he's not moving his vote, nor really saying why he wants to lynch k7.jonathantan86 wrote: I was under the impression that your main reason for voting jon was his k7-vote. What else is there? BAB's case?
In addition, he voted someone (me) for quite weak reasons (which I have replied to). These reasons are why I think he's the best lynch, and that's why I don't remove my vote.me wrote:As for the size of the set up...yes I share your concerns. However if we just leave killa to lurk like this, there's no stopping him from doing so the entire game (and maybe in other games as well). So for meta-game reasons, I think we should lynch him. If we don't care about other games: If he's scum there's no way we can catch him (if we do not accept his lurking as a scum-tell) unless we use a cop investigation on him. If he's town, well...we would be wasting a cop investigation on him. So the penalty for not lynching a lurker is greater than zero.
I don't get it.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:absolutely not.TDC wrote:Uh. Should the continuation of your vote be read as approval of a jon-claim?BridgesAndBaloons wrote:HOS: CML
I don't want Jon lynched right now.TDC wrote: If you don't agree with him having to claim (or being hammered) you should unvote.
Are you trying to get jon lynched without being held responsible for it?
I'm aware that you claimed it was a pressure vote. Yet, when someone is at L-1 and someone else is willing to hammer, you can't claim to pressure vote anymore.BridgesAndBaloons wrote:I don't want Jon lynched right now.TDC wrote: If you don't agree with him having to claim (or being hammered) you should unvote.
Are you trying to get jon lynched without being held responsible for it?
I think I made it very clear I wantedpressureon jon to see how he reacted. I was hoping keeping him on L-1 he might do some strange stuff too look at. Anyway,unvotefor now.
Well, my lurking is because of school starting and a hurricane.TDC wrote:Don't you think you're being hypocritical there?
What do you all think of k7's statement above? To me, it seems that he's hinting that he himself is a powerrole. I doubt that a real powerrole would do that, therefore he might be acting as one to avoid a lynch.killa seven wrote:thanks for helping the scum determine who is a powerrole.jonathantan86 wrote:You're not really helping much.k7 wrote:After im lynched and confirmed town, what will you say next?
For the record, I don't expect them to lay low...I just think that there is intrinsically more benefit for them to lay low compared to a non-powerrole, but they might not want to do that because they too need to scum-hunt or lurking would show scum who the power roles are. Right now k7 is at a point where he should post much more in order for the rest of us to attempt to determine if he is scum or not, but he isn't...that outweighs any concern of a powerrole "outing" himself, if k7 is a power role.tspn wrote:You were saying earlier how you would expect power roles to always lay low, and now lurking is scummy because only scum have reason to lurk. . . I think you need to start seeing the game in a few more shades of gray.